Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 O'Reilly working Sunday talking about Comey's new statement. He, like I, doesn't think it's a big deal at this stage for the election. He also wasn't impressed with Jay-Z at Clinton's rally. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 And we thought the Podesta thing was over? No way. Podesta No. 33: RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 33 #PodestaEmails #PodestaEmails33 #HillaryClinton #imWithHer https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm pic.twitter.com/zFsLophDDv— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 7, 2016 Drip... drip... drip... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/new-leaks DynCorp employees hire 15-year-old boy to strip dance for them. Hillary Clinton covers it up because she received money from DynCorp. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/15526 “The other issue that surfaced at the time was a colossal error in judgment by one of the contractors' employees in hiring an adolescent boy dancer for some sort of event that, at least to most folks, looked very inappropriate. The Post is now looking at the dancing boy, which was not included in the April 17, article" "the DynCorp regional commander from Konduz, Flint Chambers, allowed his men to hire a 15-year-old boy dancer to do tribal dances at a DynCorp party on the training site. Some 15 or so DynCorp employees in attendance pulled out a single chair and had the boy do mock lap dances. This was captured on video. The video shows DynCorp employees putting dollar bills in the boy's waistband, just as they would a stripper's garter. The revelry lasted about 45 minutes." This is sent directly to Hillary Clinton from Cheryl Mills who is one of her big time lawyers. A lawyer would not be messaging Hillary this if she didn't have direct ties to DynCorp. DynCorp was actually found guilty of child trafficking in the early 2000's when "its employees [were] accused of rape and the buying and selling of girls as young as 12." They got a slap on the wrist and still get government contracts. DynCorp is known for a gross history of sexual assault. The CEO is Lewis Von Thaer. But the parent organization of DynCorp? Cerebus Capital Management. Hillary Clinton has ties to both Cerebus and DynCorp. Cerebus gave $40,628 to her campaign. The state department lost $1 billion dollars and DynCorp is likely to blame. What's ironic is that they appointed Jack Lew (Hillary's right hand man, according to the article) to look into it. DynCorp has a history of stealing money. "1991 State of the Nation - It appears that DynCorp broke the original investigation on this. DynCorp was the accountant for roughly $2.7 trillion missing 1991-2001. Also missing in 1996 or 1997; $60 billion missing out of HUD. DynCorp appears to be the accounting division of the US government these days." Hillary covered up for DynCorp. 1. The Washington Post wrote about it to her. 2. Later they publish a story saying the DynCorp employee was fired and no mention of the boy. 3. Nothing ended up being done. And here are the "sensitive but unclassified" documents from her emails. What is most disgusting is we now know Hillary has covered up for Weiner texting an underage girl and Laura Silsby's crew of kidnapping children from Haiti for trafficking. (thanks to saltxburn from Reddit for his detective work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Time is running out. Is anything of consequence coming from WikiLeaks? I have already told them, but in the Real Clear Politics electoral college map they did not show or ‘count in’ the State of Maryland this morning, which made it look like Trump was doing better. I just checked and they have not corrected it. Clinton is leading slightly in the early voting in most tossup states, but to me it is interesting that so many did not vote for the top two candidates. For example, early voting in Florida has Old Hickory Clinton with 39.6 percent to 39 percent for Donald Trump which means 21.4 percent voted for another candidate. Last minute polling is showing Hillary Clingon with a 4 percent lead, but the IBD/TIPP tracking poll has Trump up by 2 and the LA Times/ USC Tracking has Trump up by 5. Senator Al Franken is opening an investigation into ‘rogue elements’ within the FBI. If Old Hickory is elected will any investigations into her be nipped in the bud, or will we have a situation worse than Watergate? If you understand her level of corruption when holding power, it could be a pogrom, like in the old USSR. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 40 minutes ago, Peter said: Clinton is leading slightly in the early voting in most tossup states... Peter, She has a funny way of celebrating it. (From TMZ:) HILLARY CLINTON: PULLS PLUG ON ELECTION NIGHT FIREWORKS Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 btw - Rush Limbaugh this morning said that he was wrong on a point he has stressed a lot over the last few weeks. He has always said that the polls will align to reality about 5 days before the election. Before that, polls only exist to mold public opinion. This morning he said he has to retract that for this election. He believes the polls are still being used to mold public opinion. I'll get his exact words and post them when the transcripts come out in a while. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: btw - Rush Limbaugh this morning said that he was wrong on a point he has stressed a lot over the last few weeks. He has always said that the polls will align to reality about 5 days before the election. Before that, polls only exist to mold public opinion. This morning he said he has to retract that for this election. He believes the polls are still being used to mold public opinion. I'll get his exact words and post them when the transcripts come out in a while. Michael Their interest was to preserve the appearance of accuracy and honesty so they can appear legit and sell polls next election. Less important when there will be no next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: btw - Rush Limbaugh this morning said that he was wrong on a point he has stressed a lot over the last few weeks. He has always said that the polls will align to reality about 5 days before the election. Before that, polls only exist to mold public opinion. This morning he said he has to retract that for this election. He believes the polls are still being used to mold public opinion. I'll get his exact words and post them when the transcripts come out in a while. Here you go. Polls Are Still Being Used as Weapons -- And Nobody Knows What Will Happen Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I posted the following on the Humor thread (which shows you how quirky the OL sense of humor can get ). I got a an offline message that echoed it. But first, what I posted. Tony said the following about the hatred displayed by anti-Trump people: 9 hours ago, anthony said: There's more than just holding power over the people - I sense - it's personal, as if their very identity and self- righteousness is under threat. I commented on this: 8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Anthony, I suspect this has to do with what I am currently calling the ruling class mentality. These people are vain. They feel they are inherently superior to the bulk of mankind, not because of anything they do or say. It's just because. Not only are they superior, the only reason the bulk of mankind exists for them is to serve them, make stuff for them, be useful as lab animals for their social experiments, serve as props for their victimization stories when they need to display virtue signaling, and so on. But it's always the ruling class is over here and the bulk of mankind is over there. Always. Not one person of the bulk of mankind is supposed to occupy the same space as the ruling class without turning into one of the ruling class. Trump threatens that whole view of existence. If he gets in power, if he occupies their space, what about them? Trump has no use for them if they can't do anything. And most of them can't do much. Just belonging to an elite is no longer enough to be above others. In their souls, this is what Rand was talking about when Roark told Toohey, "But I don't think of you." Someone like Trump doesn't think of them. Not for fixing problems or running a business or, now, leading a country. If they can't do jack, he gets someone who can. These people can't stand being ignored and, since they no they have no real use for producers, that's why, deep in their souls, they have to lord over the bulk of mankind instead of joining it. They need to believe the rest of mankind is just as worthless as they are and simultaneously believe--in all due comfort--they are special. What a mess of a mind. Can you imagine living like that? But that's why it's personal. When I look at the soul of people like that, I'm so grateful I have the soul I do have. I added a thought to this during the discussion (in answer to Korben): 6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Elite ruling class people like I am talking about are vastly different than the elites like Randian heroes. These last build stuff and use merit as a standard for judging the work of others. They use practical reason out in reality, not just theoretical reason divorced from practice or word smokescreens. When they fail, they know they are not the elite anymore. They don't expect to be, either. And generally they work hard to get back up. The elites I bash believe in their own individual and collective inherent, innate, baked-in-from-birth superiority over the unwashed masses. And they try to sew up government so they can keep their privilege with force and media deception. Now for the link I received offline. It goes to a Zero Hedge article by Tyler Durden from Nov. 7, which was essentially a repost of an American Thinker article by Andrew Solomon with sundry emphasis marks added. I like it so much, I'm reposting the whole thing as altered by Durden. This is a fine complement to my comments above. The Real Choice At The Top Of The Ballot Quote Submitted by Andrew Solomon via AmericanThinker.com, The leftist socialists don't appear to know the first thing of what this election is actually about. Most of them are fascinated by the two personalities: Skyscraper Guy and Pantsuit Lady. But they are just a pair of mascots. It's what they represent, the ideas, the actual ideas behind each of them. (I know – who would have thought we'd ever get to ideas in this campaign?) The reason why we not only reject, but disdain Pantsuit Lady is that what she represents is coercion. Let that sink in for a moment. She is about increasing the state's size and role in our lives and its uniquely invasive monopoly on violence over the individual. Skyscraper Guy is about shrinking the size, scope, and role of the State in our lives, allowing us to be removed from the incessant claws of forced collectivism. What you don't understand, leftist Bernie/Hillary/Obama person, is that you are endlessly prying your way into our personal lives – and we don't like it. We've had enough of your activist invasion into our interior private lives. We don't like your ideas imposed on us, your stupid bright ideas, the damn reckless Obamacare scars you've left on our wrists, the lethal cuts Hillary's forced single payer will impose. We don't like your overall cockiness. Your intrusiveness. Your victim cult crybaby legislation. Your nauseating me-first European socialist entitlement demands for more free stuff, from college to health care to pregnancy and sick leave to free child care. You represent everything that quantum physics warned us about: a dangerous black hole, an event horizon, an endless wind tunnel, a vortex of infantile and unworkable demands that someone else has to pay for because your undeveloped character cannot accept a world where effort is involved. You are a moral perversion, a virus to the individual who just wants to be left alone – but you won't leave us alone. You want to continue to extract from us and others who make a nickel more than you, because you are an amoral basket case. Skyscraper Guy doesn't care about your feelings. He's not interested in your perverted call for redistributionist violence. He's a builder, not a destroyer, not a government employee who by definition is a tear-down artist, since taxes are taken without actually earning them. He's had to meet payrolls and schedules and project goals. He's a doer. He's not a social justice "warrior" complaining that life owes him anything. Meanwhile, Pantsuit Lady has sold each of your souls into her cult that the world does in fact owe you something for nothing. That it's okay to extract property from others. That you don't have to earn anything at all. That all you have to do is exist and then vote, then repeat this process forever and ever. The problem with that is that, just as Obama did, you attach yourselves to the skin of another like a tick. That's what Obamacare was. A parasite landing on the neck of the middle class to bleed them out in order to siphon funds through the the IRS Mafia into the bloodstream of another. Like multi-level marketing, Madoff-style, Social Security on steroids, designed to implode just days before he left office, as it's doing right now. Crash it; go to single payer with the next Democrat muppet. All intentional. All coercive. All the time. It's not about what team you like, which section of the bleachers you're sitting in, or even the score of the game. Neither is it about Bob the Builder or Chairwoman Mao. It's about you, leftist, leaving us the hell alone and not forcing yourself on us like Cosby tending the bar, waiting to refill our glass. So grow up a little, become an adult, stop complaining, make something of yourself, leave others alone, renounce violence and be a productive member of society, and reject the politics of coercion. Yup. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Man, these people don't let you rest. Podesta No. 34: RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 34 #PodestaEmails #PodestaEmails34 #HillaryClinton #imWithHer https://t.co/Uc5c5DuWgF pic.twitter.com/k85wVnOwPK— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 8, 2016 I have a feeling this is going to keep going after the election. Drip... drip... drip... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 LUTHA! Leave us the hell alone. I like that. Also known as MYO(F)B. Michael, it is a total 'societalism' which we're experiencing, a renewed social engineering on a vast scale never seen before, that Solomon articulates nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 As Election Day Approaches,Trump Emerges as Candidate Of Comparable Integrity -The New York Sun: Conrad Black " In the last week of this tumultuous campaign, Donald Trump, however raucous his delivery, has emerged as the candidate of comparative integrity, and the only person who might clean out the Augean stable of the American political system. Unless Hillary Clinton, whose considerable gifts have never included an excess of spontaneous originality, can pull from the tattered Democratic hat a miraculous Brobdingnagian bunny, the doors of the White House will be opened to the greatest, if far from the most elegant, personal political crusade in American history. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 What could possibly go wrong here? From NBC News: 'All Hands on Deck' to Protect Election From Hack, Say Officials From the article: Quote The U.S. government is gearing up for an unprecedented effort to protect Tuesday's presidential election from cyber attack, U.S. officials told NBC News. "There are a lot of eyes on this presidential election — more than there normally would be," a senior Obama administration official said. Cyber centers at the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and the FBI — as well as the Pentagon, the CIA and other intelligence agencies — will be on alert, with extra staff hunting for any possible threat, officials say. The concern is so high, intelligence officials told NBC, that for the first time, hundreds of military and intelligence cyber experts who work out of top secret facilities, including underground bunkers, will be monitoring intelligence about a U.S. presidential election. They will react to any threat to the federal government's communication and command systems. "It's all hands on deck," a senior intelligence official said. Inquiring minds want to know: Who is going to watch them? btw - I recall that I and other Trump supporters where mocked quite a bit for worrying about voter fraud. It couldn't happen. That's tin-foil hat stuff. Well, why isn't the US government being mocked now? I sure hope the Anonymous folks and the US government insiders who leaked stuff to WikiLeaks are wide awake tomorrow. I have a feeling they might be. I'm happy with the threat of a gigantic game of hacker chicken just so long as nobody makes the first move and the voters decide honestly. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 35 minutes ago, anthony said: LUTHA! Leave us the hell alone. I like that. Also known as MYO(F)B. Michael, it is a total 'societalism' which we're experiencing, a renewed social engineering on a vast scale never seen before, that Solomon articulates nicely. I like it too. But "Laissez faire!" (hands off!) says the same thing. Obviously not enough, does it always have to come down to somebody getting shot? A liberal acquaintance told me "everybody has their own truth". No, some peoples "truth" leads to disaster, others to thriving. Truth has to be consistent with reality and no one can invent their own reality. Only those who never do a fucking thing can not know this. Don't try to make your fantasy my reality. Sorry, I'm a bit pissy these days. I live in California, my vote isn't worth much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 9 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: btw - Rush Limbaugh this morning said that he was wrong on a point he has stressed a lot over the last few weeks. He has always said that the polls will align to reality about 5 days before the election. Before that, polls only exist to mold public opinion. This morning he said he has to retract that for this election. He believes the polls are still being used to mold public opinion. I'll get his exact words and post them when the transcripts come out in a while. Michael Just turned on CNN. Dan Rather babbling away. I thought he was dead. Headlined under: Clinton leads. Ahead by 4 points. Etc. --Brant desperation in action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This helps a little: We'll have teams everywhere tomorrow. If you are doing something wrong on Election Day we find you we film you and we will make you famous.— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) November 7, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 13 hours ago, Mikee said: I like it too. But "Laissez faire!" (hands off!) says the same thing. Obviously not enough, does it always have to come down to somebody getting shot? A liberal acquaintance told me "everybody has their own truth". No, some peoples "truth" leads to disaster, others to thriving. Truth has to be consistent with reality and no one can invent their own reality. Only those who never do a fucking thing can not know this. Don't try to make your fantasy my reality. Sorry, I'm a bit pissy these days. I live in California, my vote isn't worth much. Yes, that age-old cry: "Laissez(-moi) faire!" - continues. In a half-assed way, it is what I heard from half of Brits in the EU exit, as I 'hear' it now from Trumpians. As with the UK, I don't have to totally approve of all their premises - nor always and completely of Trump's personality, methods or intentions, although I believe he's not the "narcissist" he's taken to be (and that, right or wrong, and able or not as President, he is genuine) - to be an avid supporter of self-determinism -- i.e., individual freedom. The Trumpians share that. I generalise hugely, of course, about a broad mass of voters. And a person's independence from others, especially bullies who would psychologically impose their 'do-good-feel-good-look-good' credo over his freedom, is the prerequisite and only fertile ground for liberty from the State. Perhaps I'm seen as horning in on domestic affairs of the USA. However, my view is it IS my business and my vested interest in seeing a recovery of that spirit of independence of which America was/is an exemplar. You might enjoy it, or not, but America leads the way and is morally looked up to. (I gotta add, if I were American this would piss me off somewhat: stand on your own feet, dammit!). These Lefties here in SA, and surely other places who love to hate the US, have some clue of what is morally at stake today. That's why their hysteria. If I have the Galt quote right, "It's your minds they want". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I live in progressive Illinois. I voted this morning, for Trump of course. But draining the swamp here is no joke. It's a raging sewer, swamp, and sludge-flooded badlands. I got the stupidest feeling today. I've done more in reality regarding social justice issues than most Social Justice Warriors would ever do in 10 lifetimes (my kids have black blood in them, for instance, and I knew the bloodline of my ex-wife when I married her). I never joined movements. If I've felt something was wrong around me, I just went out and did stuff about it. I know the wrong people (for my way of thinking) would stamp some of that stuff with a big-ass seal of approval for things like racism, misogyny, etc. But, I swear, I felt like Archie Bunker standing among those prissy "holier than thou" assholes in the voting line this morning. I live in a terrible place for someone like me. My vote is merely a fart in a shit-factory here in Illinois. I don't think it will mean anything. But I still voted for Trump. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 It's still coming like the Chinese water torture. RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 35 #PodestaEmails #PodestaEmails35 #HillaryClinton #imWithHer https://t.co/wzxeh7hZLU pic.twitter.com/949fP6TwTr— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 8, 2016 Drip... drip... drip... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Michael you may have to vote with your feet. Some swamps can't be drained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 15 minutes ago, Jules Troy said: Michael you may have to vote with your feet. Some swamps can't be drained. Jules, Tell me about it. I got another "I Voted!" sticker equal to the one I got for the primaries. On 3/18/2016 at 2:11 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: There is something that has bothered me ever since I voted. I received a sticker saying, "I voted!" Here is a photo I just took of it, but what an odd sticker: Notice the communist star in the middle of the O. Also, I was able to make out two Chinese characters in the first five-character string (the first and fourth). The fifth character at the end is Japanese. (I got these from Google translate.) I couldn't find the second and third. Then the "I voted!" message is in Spanish. Then in Hindi of all things. As far as I know, there is no big Hindu population in Cook County. At least not big enough for the government to print electoral materials for everyone in Hindi. Ditto for Chinese and Japanese. Weird... even for left-wingers... Ribbit... ribbit... ribbit... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Here's Fox's live election coverage link : http://video.foxnews.com/v/1241186546001/?#sp=watch-live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Fox's preliminary exit polling showing greater numbers for Johnson and Stein than we saw in the final public polls. Throughout this election cycle this has helped Trump . Still early, though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 CNN's feed: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/live-election-results-coverage/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Biting nails, but it's looking good for Trump at this point. Too close right now, but still the tilt is in the right direction for me not to eat my own stomach... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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