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Does anyone find it odd or frankly incomprehensible that someone who is so opinionated and in the know about the candidates either does not know if he will vote or will vote for HC?

As if there were something HC will say that isnt as bad as what she has said that will sway him. Or that he might go shopping instead.

Hes made his mind up, he hasnt. Which is it? Where is the certainty?

 

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-campaign-biography-psychology-history-barrett-hurt-dantiono-blair-obrien-213835

Perhaps this consists of innuendo or anecdotal or simply the impressions and remembrances left long ago when DT was younger.

Excerpts:

"Fred (his father) was the consummate state capitalist, just like his son. Everything he did was subsidized either by the Federal Housing Administration or the state Mitchell-Lama housing program. And so political connections were all that mattered to him. I mean, that was the key to success, and Donald inherited that, and he inherited the connections for himself."

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"The Grand Hyatt [a New York hotel Donald Trump bought and refurbished in the 1970s] was co-signed.

Barrett: Yeah. I tell the tale about how Fred has to come to the closing in Atlantic City, and he’s against Donald going into Atlantic City. But he goes to the closing, they sit up there and sign all the documents with all the mob guys, you know, to buy all the leaseholds. And Fred and Donald leave and they go down to the limo, and somebody upstairs realizes that Fred missed one document. And they call out the window for Fred to come back, because they’re not going to do a deal with Donald."

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" O’Brien: So this whole notion that he’s said a lot—that, “Oh, I got a million dollars from my father”—that’s just pure hokum. His father’s political connections and his financial connections launched him, kept him supported. His father bought $3.5 million worth of chips at Trump Castle [the Atlantic City hotel and casino] when the bonds were coming due, to keep him afloat so he could make a bond payment. He inherited, probably conservatively, over $150 million from Fred, so that’s more than $1 million, just for the record."

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"O’Brien: "I remember Trump’s finance chief Steve Bollenbach, who worked through the debt for him, said he had this conversation one day where they were going to take the yacht. And they didn’t want to take the yacht. And the light suddenly went on in their heads: The banks actually don’t want to control all these assets. They want him to operate out of it, and they both thought, “Wow.” That was the moment when they realized they had leverage.

You know, everything he does now, he doesn’t need loans to do any of it. The golf courses are owned by the members. They pay fees that finance it. He gets a salary from NBC from The Apprentice, and he gets licensing fees for everything else. I mean, there’s some projects, like the Chicago hotel—he got bank debt for that. Deutsche Bank loaned into that one."

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"Barrett: "Well, there are a lot of similarities, in terms of the way he carries himself, you know, this kind of engaging personality. The showman was already there. But he was actually a man of some skill in those days, and I think he had an attention span that he lost in between.

But in my day, I think he had a focus on detail, he was a real builder. He was at the Hyatt site every day, on the site, checking out every detail. He was a manager and a builder, inherited from his father. I mean, look at the projects he built in the early days of his life. But fundamentally, he hasn’t built anything since my book came out (Trump. The Deals and Downfalls 1992). I mean, he’s not really a builder anymore. He sells his name."

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"O’Brien: Trump Tower was really the apotheosis, or the apex of his career.

Barrett: Yeah. He really stopped being a builder.

Kruse: And Trump Tower went up in 1983.

So some of your books [Barrett’s and Hurt’s] came out in ’92 and ’93, and, to some extent, you were treating him as a man who was dead, at least as a businessman. How was he able to resurrect himself?

Barrett: Well, you know, with all this Tea Party anger that he’s appealing to now, he was the original bailout. I mean, the banks could have put him under any day. They took tremendous losses in those negotiations and deals. So they saved him. He was too big to fail.

Hurt: He was the original “too big to fail.”"

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Barrett: Well, the thing was that the banks wouldn’t complain, either. When they cut the deal with him, if they didn’t go on to a prosecutor—I mean, all of the financials that he gave the banks were totally false.

Hurt: And they’re liable for that, for not doing their due diligence.

Barrett: Yes. They were so embarrassed that they never went to a prosecutor. Clearly, there could have been a case made."

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D’Antonio: The one time I had that happen is when I knew his Selective Service record, where he had claimed that he was excluded from Vietnam by his draft number, and it wasn’t true. So I said, “I’m sorry to have to ask you this, but we really need to work through it.” And once we started working through it, and I talked about when the draft lottery was initiated and how there was a gap, he was eligible to be drafted during that gap, he lifts up his shoes and shows me these little bumps on his tendons, and says, “Well, this is why. I have heel spurs. I couldn’t have been in the infantry.” 

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"Barrett: Roger [a longtime Trump adviser and former Nixon aide] didn’t come along until a little bit later than that, but that was definitely Roy Cohn ( Roy Marcus Cohn was an American attorney who became famous during Senator Joseph McCarthy's investigations). Roy represented him on that case. You know, both of these guys, Roger and Donald, are effectively sons of Roy. Roy was the second most influential person in Donald’s life, and the most influential in Roger Stone’s life.

He even sounds like Roy. I had many lunches with Roy. I dealt with Roy all the time. He would sit there and say, “Wayne has written 36 pieces on me and never said a good word. You have no idea how much business you generated from that.”

 

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2 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

That was the most annoying post I never read.  Dumb F#%k.

Thx--I didn't read it. Thx, thx and more thx.

--Brant

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9 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

That was the most annoying post I never read.  Dumb F#%k.

A scurrilous comment means the engagement is off? )

Congrats. Top billing for incivility! Thx for the warning.

 

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9 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

That was the most annoying post I never read.  Dumb F#%k.

 

1. Spell and grammar check: F#%k is only capitalized at the beginning of a sentence.

2. Thank God and Greyhound for the Block function. <swoosh>

REB

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1 minute ago, Roger Bissell said:

1. Spell and grammar check: F#%k is only capitalized at the beginning of a sentence.

2. Thank God and Greyhound for the Block function. <swoosh>

REB

Not meaning t0o get didactic--so I won't (sic)--but you can cAPITALize any damn ward and letter You want too and that Goes for the FY&* speling to!

--Brant

who needs F&*^$ing Engush teCHERS?

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On ‎6‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 6:09 PM, turkeyfoot said:

He inherited, probably conservatively, over $150 million from Fred, so that’s more than $1 million, just for the record.

...and Donald honored his father by turning millions into billions.

This is just like the Biblical story of the talents.

He who is wise with what he was given will be given more. :)

 

Greg

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10 minutes ago, moralist said:

...and Donald honored his father by turning millions into billions.

This is just like the Biblical story of the talents.

He who is wise with what he was given will be given more. :)

 

Greg

How many billions a man gets in a corrupt economy is not necessarily his true measure.   The Donald is a boorish unmanered barbarian.  He has little or no couth.  What has he invented?  Compare The Donald to Elon Musk  or Ed Land.  Compare The Donald to Salk and Sabin who lifted the Curse of Polio from us  and who chose not to cash in on their inventions.  For them, doing the deed was more important than cashing in.   I will take a Salk or Sabin  to a thousand Trumps.  

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18 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Can't discuss much -- traveling right now. 

But I can mention this.

Orlando gay bar massacre by Islamist. More to come.

How's a Trump presidency looking now?

Michael

The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

President Obama will use the Orlando massacre either to deliver a hammer blow or a stealthy, slithering undermining to our Constitution, but as Barry Goldwater said, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice,” so eff that asshole. Totalitarian terrorists deserve no benefit of the doubt. There is no doubt. Never fail to pass moral judgment and never fail to defend yourself and your family.  And we must not let the American, totalitarian leftists go unchallenged. We need firearms to defend ourselves. Obama just cut into The Price Is Right to talk about banning firearms. That is so very, very wrong.

 

It is time to arm yourselves, wherever you may go. We need a strong militia and the Tea Party Movement, which includes Donald Trump, is a good start. Why did no one at that nightclub shoot that son of a pig terrorist?

Peter 

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Mark Stein, filling in for Rush Limbaugh today, was talking about a female tourist in Qatar. She went to a police station to complain that she had been raped. They arrested and convicted her for having sex outside of marriage. She was imprisoned and fined $874.00 FOR HER CRIME! She would have received the same treatment in Saudi Arabia and even in Iraq which we saved from Saddam, costing thousands of American lives. Then we rebuilt the country and the Iraqis still have “The Cesspool of Sharia Law.” That is not right.     

If Trump “tells it like it is” he will become a bigger target to Muslims in their, messianic, terroristic eyes. Perhaps candidate or President Trump would be as big a target as several American Malls and nightclubs combined. But I still hope he capitalizes on this tragedy and says something along the lines of, “Americans! Arm yourselves. Tea Party Patriots, arm yourselves. I reiterate. For now, no more Muslims are welcome in America. And those who are here need to be weeded out by the FBI. That is not racism. That is self defense.”

Peter   

From my mailbox.

Dear Peter, The horrific attack that took place this past weekend reveals how weak the leadership is in our country. My thoughts and prayers go out to the many friends and families affected by the events in Orlando, Florida. I am going to be a President for all Americans, and I am going to protect and defend all Americans. We will not stand by and allow another tragedy like this to happen. We are going to make America safe again and great again for everyone.

As of last Tuesday, the primaries have officially ended and I received more votes than any candidate in the history of the Republican party with big wins in California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota. While we continue to unite the Republican Party we have started to direct our attention to November and making sure that Crooked Hillary never again steps foot in the White House. On Thursday we hosted members of the Trump Victory Fund which will help us win in November by raising funds for the campaign and Republicans down ballot to ensure that we have the support we need from Republicans everywhere. On Friday we spoke with faith leaders in Washington D.C. at the “Faith & Freedom Coalition’s 2016 ‘Road To Majority’ Policy Conference.” We discussed the sanctity of life and protecting religious liberty. Afterwards we left DC, and held a massive rally in Richmond, VA, working to garner support in a key battleground state. On Saturday, we held rallies in Tampa and Pittsburgh to thousands of supporters!

Today, I will be delivering a major speech from Manchester, New Hampshire, devoted to addressing the serious threats facing all Americans, national security and my solutions for making this country safe again. Tomorrow, we will be hosting a campaign rally in Greensboro, NC which will kick off a week long campaign swing through America!

Thank you again for your support. Best Wishes, Donald J. Trump.

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Trump just gave an inspiring speech in New Hampshire, perhaps the best he has ever given. He really nailed it. Women and gay people should and will be supporting their self interest by supporting Donald Trump. He was sincere, emotional but rational, and there were few errors. His time has come. America's time has come.

Peter

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9 hours ago, Peter said:

Trump just gave an inspiring speech in New Hampshire, perhaps the best he has ever given. He really nailed it. Women and gay people should and will be supporting their self interest by supporting Donald Trump. He was sincere, emotional but rational, and there were few errors. His time has come. America's time has come.

Here it is:

Michael

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14 hours ago, Peter said:

 Why did no one at that nightclub shoot that son of a pig terrorist? 

It was a liberal gun free zone.

 

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Your inference may or may not be factual. A lot of people pack guns in Florida, but they aren't the kind who frequent gay night clubs. I think there was one armed security--an off duty cop--who must have been gunned down. (The AR-15 used couldn't have been fully automatic as it was legally sold. The shooter would have used more bullets and killed fewer people using full auto as he would have been less selective and the magazine emptied sooner. The strict regulation of fully automatic weapons is next to worthless.)

--Brant

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2 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

Your inference may or may not be factual. A lot of people pack guns in Florida, but they aren't the kind who frequent gay night clubs.

Gay clubs are liberal politically correct gun free zones, because almost all homosexuals are politically correct liberal Democrats. Except for one person, no one was armed.  The radical Islamist murderer was a homosexual, had frequented the club, and was familiar with it. He knew they would be sitting ducks... and he was right.

 

Greg

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 8:13 AM, BaalChatzaf said:

  What has he invented?

He's not an inventor. He's a builder.

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Kind of like a Howard Roark. :wink: 

 

Greg

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On 6/10/2016 at 0:09 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

 

Roark (the character)  never financed a building he designed and Trump (real live person)  never designed a building he financed

There is a difference between designing  and providing capital. 

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7 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said:

Roark (the character)  never financed a building he designed and Trump (real live person)  never designed a building he financed

There is a difference between designing  and providing capital. 

Both are vital to the production of a building. I get your dislike of Trump. You're a thinker. He's a doer.

Greg

 

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Donald Trump may be exploiting a psychological bias to win votes - James Surowiecki

I think James Surowiecki has a good insight here.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-clinton-2016-loss-aversion-201827730.html#

Bet on the longshot Trump rather than the certain disaster Hillary.

 

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