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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/nyregion/gunfire-reported-during-search-for-escaped-inmates.html?emc=edit_na_20150626&nlid=53564225&ref=cta

One of the Escapees, Richard Matt, Is Fatally Shot

By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM and BENJAMIN MUELLERJUNE 26, 2015

David Sweat, left, and Richard Matt. Credit New York State Police, via Associated Press

Richard W. Matt, one of the convicted murderers who staged an elaborate escape from New York’s largest prison nearly three weeks ago, was killed on Friday in a burst of gunfire by law enforcement officers, two people with knowledge of the situation said.


The shots rang out as law enforcement officers zeroed in on Friday on an area of remote terrain in Franklin County, near where investigators discovered evidence in two hunting cabins that indicated the missing inmates had been there

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It marked a violent turn in a sprawling manhunt that began in Dannemora, N.Y., a small village near the Canadian border, and soon spread to large swaths of the state after David Sweat and Richard W. Matt engineered a daring breakout from Clinton Correctional Facility.

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On the face of it these two escapees are convicted murderers and deserve to be hunted down and recaptured or killed if they resist or ignore orders to drop their weapons.

But, to adopt a Devil's Advocate position, how much do we know about the remaining escapee? He was serving a life sentence for the murder of a sheriff's deputy but we are not made aware of the circumstances of that event. Is it at all possible that, although convicted of murder, the murder was actually a case of justifiable homicide? If so maybe we should be rooting for this fellows escape.

We are not told much of anything about the history of the escapee who remains at large. Did he have a long record of crimes or was it his first arrest. More than likely he deserves whatever he gets here. I just wonder.

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On the face of it these two escapees are convicted murderers and deserve to be hunted down and recaptured or killed if they resist or ignore orders to drop their weapons.

But, to adopt a Devil's Advocate position, how much do we know about the remaining escapee? He was serving a life sentence for the murder of a sheriff's deputy but we are not made aware of the circumstances of that event. Is it at all possible that, although convicted of murder, the murder was actually a case of justifiable homicide? If so maybe we should be rooting for this fellows escape.

We are not told much of anything about the history of the escapee who remains at large. Did he have a long record of crimes or was it his first arrest. More than likely he deserves whatever he gets here. I just wonder.

The matter was decided when the killer was convicted of felony murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. We can assume he received a fair trial since there was no concerted effort to reverse the conviction....

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On the face of it these two escapees are convicted murderers and deserve to be hunted down and recaptured or killed if they resist or ignore orders to drop their weapons.

But, to adopt a Devil's Advocate position, how much do we know about the remaining escapee? He was serving a life sentence for the murder of a sheriff's deputy but we are not made aware of the circumstances of that event. Is it at all possible that, although convicted of murder, the murder was actually a case of justifiable homicide? If so maybe we should be rooting for this fellows escape.

We are not told much of anything about the history of the escapee who remains at large. Did he have a long record of crimes or was it his first arrest. More than likely he deserves whatever he gets here. I just wonder.

The matter was decided when the killer was convicted of felony murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. We can assume he received a fair trial since there was no concerted effort to reverse the conviction....

Yeah, he needed Bob Dylan and Joan Baez to form a tax deductible non-profit to from a movement for him...you know like...Abu Jamaal...

http://articles.philly.com/2011-04-26/news/29474850_1_mumia-abu-jamal-maureen-faulkner-death-penalty

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Baal,

You said: "The matter was decided when the killer was convicted of felony murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. We can assume he received a fair trial since there was no concerted effort to reverse the conviction...."

That is probably true in this case.

But that there are many falsely accused and wrongly convicted cases is also true. Evidently the most common reason is mistaken eye witness identification.

The Innocence Project .org has used DNA evidence to overturn over 300 convictions. One cannot assume that just because someone was found guilty of a crime that he really is the one that "did it." Since most of the cases involved eye witness testimony which was subsequently found to be inaccurate because of DNA evidence, one can assume that there are many more cases where DNA is not involved but someone is convicted by eye witness testimony which might be in error.

There was an article about eye witness testimony years ago in Scientific American where you could see pictures of the man initially picked up and charged with a crime as well as the picture of the actual guilty person. There were several such cases and you could see how the eye witness was mistaken because of the striking resemblance between the two.

I do hope that they find the other escapee. If I were him I would consider digging a hole and literally staying underground until the searchers move on. Not an easy task without the proper tools.

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Classic case in Queens NY City - Fonda played the roll of -The Wrong Man - in a movie.

he True Story of Christopher Emmanuel Balestrero by Maxwell Anderson,[3] and in the magazine article, "A Case of Identity" (Life magazine, June 29, 1953) by Herbert Brean.[4]

It was one of the few Hitchcock films based on a true story and whose plot closely followed the real-life events.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wrong_Man

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