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Terra nullius -

The Doctrine of terra nullius

Terra nullius is a Latin phrase meaning land belonging to no one.

The English interpreted this as land which is unoccupied or unsettled in the European sense,
that is without houses or cultivated pastures - the local people had not developed towns,
roads or farms and displayed no social structure of government.

The doctrine of terra nullius was really no more than an eighteen - century convention of
European international law – it being held that any land which was unoccupied or unsettled
could be acquired as a new territory by a sovereign State, and that the laws of that State
would apply in the new territory.

The English government used this so - called doctrine to claim Australia and set up a penal
colony in which English law applied. The Doctrine ignored the rights and customary laws of
Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders. The settlers, moreover, generally had a lack of
understanding of, and disregard for, these customary laws.

http://stage6.pbworks.com/f/The+Doctrine+of+terra+nullius.pdf

Citizenship is open to anyone unless they have "Communist, Nazi or any other extremist past" or have a criminal record, according to the microstate's constitution.

Liberland's right to exist may be legally questionable but that has not stopped its founders from dreaming of building a thriving, free-market economy – a sort of Balkan Hong Kong, with a large population living in yet-to-be built skyscrapers.

The fact that their new country occupies less than three square miles is no impediment to nationhood, they say – both the Vatican City State and Monaco are smaller.

The founders claim that Liberland is neither a stunt nor an elaborate joke but a serious proposition based on the fact that the patch of land is "terra nullius" – unclaimed by any other country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/serbia/11574521/Welcome-to-Liberland-the-tiny-patch-of-woodland-claiming-to-be-the-worlds-newest-country.html

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Would be interesting if this actually worked

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True Mikee.

Here is their website and a link to the Liberland Constitution...

https://liberland.org/en/constitution/

We, the Citizens of the Free Republic of Liberland, in order to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and future generations, do ordain and establish the Constitution of the Free Republic of Liberland, hereinafter “the Constitution”, as its supreme law, deriving its just authority from the law of nature and the consent of the governed. Hereby, the Free Republic of Liberland shall be governed by the Public Administration exercising the legislative, executive and judicial power restricted by the Bill of Rights.

Article I: The Legislative Power

https://liberland.org/en/main/

Hmm has a familiar ring to it...

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Plot...A young John Galtin of Liberland develops a static electric motor and a Q-bomb and announces to the world that it must surrender all centralized power and get the hell out of the way...

 

A kinda Mouse That Roared on steroids!

 

 

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Here are it's grazing areas...mapa.png.

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Plot...A young John Galtin of Liberland develops a static electric motor and a Q-bomb and announces to the world that it must surrender all centralized power and get the hell out of the way...

A kinda Mouse That Roared on steroids!

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That opening still shot sort of looks like Nathaniel Branden and Ayn Rand.

--Brant

I saw this movie in a theater over 50 years ago

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Might have to wait a little on "zee Vorld" part of this statement:

First it seems like the President of Liberland needs to actually get to his country!

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Croatia deployed border police units and patrol boats to prevent repeated attempts by dozens of Liberland organizers and their followers to reach the uninhabited area, whose only building is a run-down abandoned hunter lodge. Serbian police prevented them from crossing the border from their side.

"The police did their job maybe even better than expected," said Jedlicka, a member of a small libertarian Czech party. "Even the people who wanted to give us the boats were searched and were told that they are not allowed to give us the boats.

"But we won't give up that easy," he said. "We'll keep on trying."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150509/eu--balkans-liberland-124676cd43.html

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Throwing this under humor may have been a mistake.

As FEE points out in this article:

It’s easy enough to dismiss the idea of Liberland — a recently declared libertarian territory in the Balkans — as a far-flung libertarian scheme. We’ve been here before, as demonstrated by the history of “Operation Atlantis,” the “Republic of Minerva,” “Galt’s Gulch Chile,” and other defunct micronations.

Interestingly, when you see the way the established states have moved to shut this effort down, one has to wonder what they fear?

In the past, micronations like this were hobbled by the question of which currency to use. If it adopts the currency of some other nation state, it will forever be subjected to the whims of foreign banking and political elites. Such a restraint on a micronation will always be a compromise in its political independence. Its currency will be the lever that large nation-states will use to assert control.

But today, we are in the age of cryptocurrency. Bitcoin, for example, is a truly private currency, under the control of no nation and no central bank. Its creation rate and management policy is governed by an open source protocol rather than the arbitrary dictate of a board.

As the author points out, "In the 21st century, legal relationships and physical proximity are increasingly detached from each other."

Continuing, the author posits a question:

So what are we to make of the existing panic on the part of Serbia and Croatia toward Liberland? Perhaps these two states, as much as they have struggled with each other for many centuries, do not want to permit this experiment in human freedom to exist as a model for the world. They may fear that desire of liberty and independence would destabilize their control over their own territories.

He concludes that:

Technology permits new forms of geographically non-contiguous engagement in commerce, communication, and law. A territory of only a few square miles can indeed become a viable nation: a refuge for those who seek freedom, a nimble competitor to stagnant mega-states, and a model for the rest of the world to follow.

Liberland might indeed fail in the short term. But its ideas and its dream have long-term viability. Old-style political systems and political maps will not rule forever. Change is possible, but it takes visionary steps (perhaps steps like as Liberland) to help push us forward to a future of liberty.

http://fee.org/anythingpeaceful/detail/what-are-the-prospects-for-liberland?utm_source=Foundation+for+Economic+Education+Current+Contacts&utm_campaign=644568d124-FEE_Daily_5_19_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_77ef1bd48e-644568d124-13801008

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This sort of thing is so 1970s' libertarian old. "Libertarian" is something of an assumption on my part for I never understood the actors well enough to understand Where TF they were really coming from. I simply assumed some mental deficiency caused by ignorance and wishful thinking and maybe some childhood mental trauma from unknown causes. They seem to have done some real "cargo-cult" harm to a small island nation in the South Pacific which caused a native leader to end up in jail for a long, long time. Don't know what happened to that sucker after that.

--Brant

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Amazingly, going though a box of maps this afternoon I hadn't seen in many years, I came across some old Objectivist-libertarian stuff plus two New York Times newspaper clippings about what I referred to in my previous post above, dated June 8 and 11, 1980. Instead of my quoting or paraphrasing, just Google "Coconut War" and "Jimmy Stevens" if you have any interest.

--Brant

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Amazingly, going though a box of maps this afternoon I hadn't seen in many years, I came across some old Objectivist-libertarian stuff plus two New York Times newspaper clippings about what I referred to in my previous post above, dated June 8 and 11, 1980. Instead of my quoting or paraphrasing, just Google "Coconut War" and "Jimmy Stevens" if you have any interest.

--Brant

Why don't you just scan them and attach them to your next post...

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Amazingly, going though a box of maps this afternoon I hadn't seen in many years, I came across some old Objectivist-libertarian stuff plus two New York Times newspaper clippings about what I referred to in my previous post above, dated June 8 and 11, 1980. Instead of my quoting or paraphrasing, just Google "Coconut War" and "Jimmy Stevens" if you have any interest.

--Brant

Why don't you just scan them and attach them to your next post...

Blush. Because the technology is way behind me and other technological doofuses.

--the man with no name

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OK

15 hours to the Liberland press conference...

https://fund.liberland.org/

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