jts Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Canada has been described here in OL by william.scherk and by other sources (not OL) as asocialist hell hole. I lived in Canada all my life and never was in any other country. Maybe I live in a socialist hell hole and don't know it, like a fly that lived in a vinegar bottle who thought it was the sweetest place in the world because it didn't know any other place. Probably there are people in North Korea who think it's a wonderful country because they don't know any other country.How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I mean in down to earth concrete day to day brass tacks, not mere abstract philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Canada has been described here in OL by william.scherk and by other sources (not OL) as asocialist hell hole. I lived in Canada all my life and never was in any other country. Maybe I live in a socialist hell hole and don't know it, like a fly that lived in a vinegar bottle who thought it was the sweetest place in the world because it didn't know any other place. Probably there are people in North Korea who think it's a wonderful country because they don't know any other country.How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I mean in down to earth concrete day to day brass tacks, not mere abstract philosophy.You don't see their humor?--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Canada has been described here in OL by william.scherk and by other sources (not OL) as asocialist hell hole. I lived in Canada all my life and never was in any other country. Maybe I live in a socialist hell hole and don't know it, like a fly that lived in a vinegar bottle who thought it was the sweetest place in the world because it didn't know any other place. Probably there are people in North Korea who think it's a wonderful country because they don't know any other country.How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I mean in down to earth concrete day to day brass tacks, not mere abstract philosophy.Jerry,Are you an entrepreneur? And if not, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) Canada has been described here in OL by william.scherk and by other sources (not OL) as a socialist hell hole.[...]How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I mean in down to earth concrete day to day brass tacks, not mere abstract philosophy.First things first. My usage is primarily ironic, mocking the kind of assignation of "Marxist" to Obama. In my own estimation Canada is the same kind of 'socialist hellhole' as European democracies like Denmark or Sweden, with few essential differences. More seriously, the amount of socialism in Canada is topped by our provincial/federal schemes to coerce/legislate universal health care -- and the imposition of a national consumption tax. According to other indices that measure such things as 'economic freedom,' ability to start a business, freedom from regulations and administrative oversight, transparent business rules, Canada is roughly as socialist as the old USA, and perhaps just slightly less so. In any case, a "mixed economy" -- per Rand, will have a melange of socialism and capitalism.So ... if you understand the ironic use, you can see that Canada is about as far from 'laissez-faire' capitalism (and Bolshevism) as is the United States. In my opinion. More detail, and a full explanation of my ironic usage here.Here is my image of Jerry in Edmonton in battle with the real enemy: Edited September 23, 2014 by william.scherk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jts Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Canada has been described here in OL by william.scherk and by other sources (not OL) as a socialist hell hole.[...]How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I mean in down to earth concrete day to day brass tacks, not mere abstract philosophy.Here is my image of Jerry in Edmonton in battle with the real enemy:1. Gross exaggeration. The problem of snow is not that bad in Edmonton. The roads get cleared. We have snow ploughs that work in the wee hours in the morning. Snow is seldom a problem for traffic. Winter is only from November to March.2. Snow has nothing to do with Canada being a socialist hell hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Jerry the city announced it is already 10million over budget from the last late winter's dump of snow...This winter is supposed to be worse. Global warming my ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Canada has been described here in OL by william.scherk and by other sources (not OL) as asocialist hell hole. I lived in Canada all my life and never was in any other country. Maybe I live in a socialist hell hole and don't know it, like a fly that lived in a vinegar bottle who thought it was the sweetest place in the world because it didn't know any other place. Probably there are people in North Korea who think it's a wonderful country because they don't know any other country.How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I mean in down to earth concrete day to day brass tacks, not mere abstract philosophy.Canada is "neocon" compared to the People's Republik of Kalifornia! Canada is wisely moving in the right direction... while America stubbornly keeps heading deeper into the left.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) 1. Gross exaggeration. The problem of snow is not that bad in Edmonton. The roads get cleared. We have snow ploughs that work in the wee hours in the morning. 2. Snow has nothing to do with Canada being a socialist hell hole.1. I was having some fun, Jerry. The picture is not of you, of course, but of some unfortunate Edmontonian doing his individual best. As you and the figure suggest, snow-removal is partially privatized. No doubt you celebrate the collective Canadian sang-froid in the face of snow season, and your heart gives a thrill when you see the solid phalanx of mighty machines doing their business:2: Snow has nothing to do with Canada becoming a socialist hellhole. Edited September 24, 2014 by william.scherk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jts Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 While we're doing jokes, here is one.A young, ruthless executive died and went to hell. When he got there, he saw one sign that said Capitalist Hell, and another that said Socialist Hell. In front of the Socialist Hell was an incredibly long line, while there was no one in front of the Capitalist Hell. So the executive asked the guard, "What do they do to you in Socialist Hell?""They boil you in oil, whip you, and then put you on the rack," the guard replied."And what do they do to you in Capitalist Hell?""The same exact thing," the guard answered."Then why is everybody in line for Socialist Hell?""Because in Socialist Hell, they're always out of oil, whips, and racks!"Myths about Canada:* We live in igloos. No we don't.* There is snow everywhere all year round. Not so. Where I live, summer is from April to October. The weather can get warmer than you want July and August. The sun is lower in the sky than it is in the USA but the summer days are longer and the nights shorter.----------I'm still waiting for an answer to my question. How is Canada a socialist hell hole? I'm not saying it's not. Saying you didn't mean it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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syrakusos Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Where I live, summer is from April to October. The weather can get warmer than you want July and August. The sun is lower in the sky than it is in the USA but the summer days are longer and the nights shorter.You must live in Equatorial Canada. My experience is the the sun is lower in the sky in Canada in the winter, but higher in the sky than in the USA (except for Alaska, of course), in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jts Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Where I live, summer is from April to October. The weather can get warmer than you want July and August. The sun is lower in the sky than it is in the USA but the summer days are longer and the nights shorter.You must live in Equatorial Canada. My experience is the the sun is lower in the sky in Canada in the winter, but higher in the sky than in the USA (except for Alaska, of course), in the summer. Maybe so. That explains why summers can be so warm in Edmonton. Nope, we don't have snow all year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 It was +29c yesterday in Edmonton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek McGowan Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Crickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 "I'm still waiting for an answer to my question."You could try answering my question. An easier version: do you have to ask permission for every fucking thing you do in your country? If you get an idea do you just go out and do it, or do you find it necessary to look up all the rules and regulations first? Do you sometimes feel like someone's pet hamster? If you look closely you can almost see the bars of the cage...Here in Concord, California I find we're supposed to get a fucking permit from the city ($) and hire a city licensed contractor ($$) to replace an old water heater (¢). Better or worse there?People are discussing this in other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 "I'm still waiting for an answer to my question."You could try answering my question. An easier version: do you have to ask permission for every fucking thing you do in your country? If you get an idea do you just go out and do it, or do you find it necessary to look up all the rules and regulations first? Do you sometimes feel like someone's pet hamster? If you look closely you can almost see the bars of the cage...Here in Concord, California I find we're supposed to get a fucking permit from the city ($) and hire a city licensed contractor ($$) to replace an old water heater (¢). Better or worse there?People are discussing this in other places.True too in Arizona. I think that's because most hot water heaters are gas fired and if that's not done right your house could blow up. I don't see the practical and safety point of it for electric hot water heaters.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 The soft tyranny ...see Alexis de Tocqueville and Mark Levin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 "Hell! Hell is for children!" --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Hell is for heroes. movie - Steve M<Queen. War is hell. Hell bent for leather. [?] Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Come Hell, or, high water. A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jts Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 You could try answering my question. An easier version: do you have to ask permission for every fucking thing you do in your country? If you get an idea do you just go out and do it, or do you find it necessary to look up all the rules and regulations first? Do you sometimes feel like someone's pet hamster? If you look closely you can almost see the bars of the cage...Here in Concord, California I find we're supposed to get a fucking permit from the city ($) and hire a city licensed contractor ($$) to replace an old water heater (¢). Better or worse there?People are discussing this in other places.I live a too simple life for the freedom in Canada to be tested by me.It seems to do anything (start a business, be a doctor, etc.) you need a license, in other words permission from government. Is it different in the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 The soft tyranny ...see Alexis de Tocqueville and Mark Levin...http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/we-are-more-rational-than-those-who-nudge-us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Corwell Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Canada isn't remotely "socialist". North Korea isn't really socialist, either. The USSR? Sure. PRC under Mao? Ehhh. North Korea? Not a chance. They're more or less fascist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Corwell Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The soft tyranny ...see Alexis de Tocqueville and Mark Levin... "Soft tyranny"? What nonsense. Levin is too hyperbolic for his own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The soft tyranny ...see Alexis de Tocqueville and Mark Levin... "Soft tyranny"? What nonsense. Levin is too hyperbolic for his own good. Sampson: The phrase soft tyranny was Alexis de Tocqueville's phrase. Here is the Wiki... Soft tyranny is an idea first coined by Alexis de Tocqueville in his 1835 work titled Democracy in America.[1] In effect, soft tyranny occurs whenever the social conditions of a particular community hinder any prospect of hope among its members.[2] For Tocqueville, hope is the driving force behind all democratic institutions.[3] As such, whenever this all-encompassing hope is taken away from the people, liberal democracy fails. Examples of this failure can be seen in the Weimar Republic of Germany during the 1930s, in the French Third Republic around 1940 or arguably throughout western democracies since the economic collapse of 2008. Apparently you did not see that name in the post. Have you read de Tocqueville? Secondly, have you read any of Mark Levin's books? A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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