Nazi's to Return

[dennislmay]

here did you get this theory?

Please be more specific.

On what facts do you base your supposition that the crime rate is deliberately caused by certain parties. And could that effect be accounted for by some other means. I am well aware the a broken clock tells the right time twice a day and I am further aware that paranoids sometimes have real enemies. But the coincidence of the effect with your hypothesis is not sufficient proof that your hypothesis is right.

If you recall there was a time when the theory of Caloric accounted for the expansion and contraction of liquids under different temperature conditions. That did not prove Caloric exist or was the cause of the expansion or contraction

Ba'al Chatzaf

The testimony of former insider socialists and the statements of socialist leaders in their books and public speaking encouraging the tactic of promoting violence to increase their power. Then the 1:1 correlation of socialist leaders [Chicago] and their failure to prosecute gun crimes [Chicago #1 in failure to prosecute] leading to high gun crime rate [Chicago] and most anti-gun laws [Chicago and Illinois]. They openly and behind the scenes say they are going to do it, they do it, and they get the results they say they wanted. Disarm the victims, don't prosecute the criminals, and then deliberately run up the crime rate so naive voter blocks will vote in further restrictions on rights. Old recipe laid out by their leadership and previous generations in detail.

Dennis

[dennislmay]

here did you get this theory?

Please be more specific.

On what facts do you base your supposition that the crime rate is deliberately caused by certain parties. And could that effect be accounted for by some other means. I am well aware the a broken clock tells the right time twice a day and I am further aware that paranoids sometimes have real enemies. But the coincidence of the effect with your hypothesis is not sufficient proof that your hypothesis is right.

If you recall there was a time when the theory of Caloric accounted for the expansion and contraction of liquids under different temperature conditions. That did not prove Caloric exist or was the cause of the expansion or contraction

Ba'al Chatzaf

The testimony of former insider socialists and the statements of socialist leaders in their books and public speaking encouraging the tactic of promoting violence to increase their power. Then the 1:1 correlation of socialist leaders [Chicago] and their failure to prosecute gun crimes [Chicago #1 in failure to prosecute] leading to high gun crime rate [Chicago] and most anti-gun laws [Chicago and Illinois]. They openly and behind the scenes say they are going to do it, they do it, and they get the results they say they wanted. Disarm the victims, don't prosecute the criminals, and then deliberately run up the crime rate so naive voter blocks will vote in further restrictions on rights. Old recipe laid out by their leadership and previous generations in detail.

Dennis

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2010/12/31/frances-fox-piven-rings-in-the-new-year-by-calling-for-violent-revolution/

One of the Progressive leaders still promoting violence. An atmosphere of violence is more important than guns specifically.

Dennis

[Selene]

There is a reason cities run by Progressives don't put away criminals and keep crime rates high [Chicago] - it gives them an excuse to take away more and more rights to keep people safe. Progressives need gun free zones and crazies on the streets to generate excuses to take away guns. You can't create the Fabian Socialist Progressive dream with an armed populace. Once disarmed gradual socialism moves right into hardcore Fascism, after that North Korean style communism.

Dennis

Where did you get this theory?

Now this is an excellent inquiry...

There is a reason cities run by Progressives don't put away criminals and keep crime rates high [Chicago]

The assertion that "...there is a reason..." that "cities run by 'progressives'" create high crime rates, maybe valid.

There are numerous evaluative standards that have to be defined, before we get to this conclusion.

1) The definition of crime;

2) How the numbers are collected;

3) What statistical analysis of those "numbers" provided for analysis;

4) What statistical analysis was enployed on those numbers'

5) What was the statistical standard of error of the data; and

6) What relevance do the statistics have?

A...

[BaalChatzaf]

Hardly evidence that would stand up in court.

The testimony of former insider socialists and the statements of socialist leaders in their books and public speaking encouraging the tactic of promoting violence to increase their power. Then the 1:1 correlation of socialist leaders [Chicago] and their failure to prosecute gun crimes [Chicago #1 in failure to prosecute] leading to high gun crime rate [Chicago] and most anti-gun laws [Chicago and Illinois]. They openly and behind the scenes say they are going to do it, they do it, and they get the results they say they wanted. Disarm the victims, don't prosecute the criminals, and then deliberately run up the crime rate so naive voter blocks will vote in further restrictions on rights. Old recipe laid out by their leadership and previous generations in detail.

Dennis

Evil is seen by him who seeks out evil.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[dennislmay]

Interesting data point.

For anyone who has been following the knife/martial arts market the last several years you may

have noticed that most of the cheap surplus knives for sale are made in China - heavier duty and

larger models made in Pakistan.

Something new is becoming common - Nazi knives and cigarette lighters - not sold as re-inactment

gear but as something for everyday use. I have not bought any but I assume they are made in

Pakistan.

Dennis

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Greece's neo-Nazi Golden Dawn goes global with political ambitions
Helena Smith
1 April 2013
The Guardian

From the article:

Emboldened by its meteoric rise in Greece, the far-right Golden Dawn party is spreading its tentacles abroad, amid fears it is acting on its pledge to "create cells in every corner of the world". The extremist group, which forged links with British neo-Nazis when it was founded in the 1980s, has begun opening offices in Germany, Australia, Canada and the US.

The international push follows successive polls that show Golden Dawn entrenching its position as Greece's third, and fastest growing, political force. First catapulted into parliament with 18 MPs last year, the ultra-nationalists captured 11.5% support in a recent survey conducted by polling company Public Issue.

The group – whose logo resembles the swastika and whose members are prone to give Nazi salutes – has gone from strength to strength, promoting itself as the only force willing to take on the "rotten establishment"

Golden Dawn seems to be getting a great start in Australia, the USA and Canada.

Heil Chrysi Avgi!

Here is their emblem:

Lookin' good...

And nobody has anything to fear. That Nazi stuff will never happen again...

Heh...

Michael

[Brant Gaede]

It's not the rise or re-coming of Nazism that's just around the corner, but major war involving China and its bordering or nearby countries and this country too. The weakening of the United States economically thus militarily but not a concomitant lessening of various international security obligations in that part of the world plus the military rise of China and the need of China to bluster to its own population to maintain communist rule, not to even mix in the Koreas, is increasingly destabilizing the general situation. The ability of the U.S. navy surface units--aircraft carriers--to survive in a war scenario is increasingly going into the toilet. Several of them could be blasted into oblivion by ICBMs and submarines in a heartbeat with up to 30,000 sailors.

--Brant

[dennislmay]

It's not the rise or re-coming of Nazism that's just around the corner, but major war involving China and its bordering or nearby countries and this country too. The weakening of the United States economically thus militarily but not a concomitant lessening of various international security obligations in that part of the world plus the military rise of China and the need of China to bluster to its own population to maintain communist rule, not to even mix in the Koreas, is increasingly destabilizing the general situation. The ability of the U.S. navy surface units--aircraft carriers--to survive in a war scenario is increasingly going into the toilet. Several of them could be blasted into oblivion by ICBMs and submarines in a heartbeat with up to 30,000 sailors.

--Brant

I know back in the day [i got out of the AF in 1992] there was a great concern that the US no longer had the ability to move adequate cargo by sea to engage in anything resembling a real war. Hence the huge long term buildup for Desert Storm. We now have considerably less capability. The US Military capability is like the Niobrara River in Nebraska - a very wide river with fast moving water but with no depth. Once the US runs out of smart weapons there are no longer adequate planes to carry on conventional bombing and not enough ships or planes to bring supplies in a timely manner. The war will be long over before the capability could be rebuilt.

The economic crisis is also military and leadership crisis - all the makings for a world war.

Dennis

[BaalChatzaf]

It's not the rise or re-coming of Nazism that's just around the corner, but major war involving China and its bordering or nearby countries and this country too. The weakening of the United States economically thus militarily but not a concomitant lessening of various international security obligations in that part of the world plus the military rise of China and the need of China to bluster to its own population to maintain communist rule, not to even mix in the Koreas, is increasingly destabilizing the general situation. The ability of the U.S. navy surface units--aircraft carriers--to survive in a war scenario is increasingly going into the toilet. Several of them could be blasted into oblivion by ICBMs and submarines in a heartbeat with up to 30,000 sailors.

--Brant

I know back in the day [i got out of the AF in 1992] there was a great concern that the US no longer had the ability to move adequate cargo by sea to engage in anything resembling a real war. Hence the huge long term buildup for Desert Storm. We now have considerably less capability. The US Military capability is like the Niobrara River in Nebraska - a very wide river with fast moving water but with no depth. Once the US runs out of smart weapons there are no longer adequate planes to carry on conventional bombing and not enough ships or planes to bring supplies in a timely manner. The war will be long over before the capability could be rebuilt.

The economic crisis is also military and leadership crisis - all the makings for a world war.

Dennis

Out military posture degenerated to this: We can launch nukes to any point on the globe from right here at home. Who needs to ship men and arms when you can ship death and destruction by express.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[dennislmay]

It's not the rise or re-coming of Nazism that's just around the corner, but major war involving China and its bordering or nearby countries and this country too. The weakening of the United States economically thus militarily but not a concomitant lessening of various international security obligations in that part of the world plus the military rise of China and the need of China to bluster to its own population to maintain communist rule, not to even mix in the Koreas, is increasingly destabilizing the general situation. The ability of the U.S. navy surface units--aircraft carriers--to survive in a war scenario is increasingly going into the toilet. Several of them could be blasted into oblivion by ICBMs and submarines in a heartbeat with up to 30,000 sailors.

--Brant

I know back in the day [i got out of the AF in 1992] there was a great concern that the US no longer had the ability to move adequate cargo by sea to engage in anything resembling a real war. Hence the huge long term buildup for Desert Storm. We now have considerably less capability. The US Military capability is like the Niobrara River in Nebraska - a very wide river with fast moving water but with no depth. Once the US runs out of smart weapons there are no longer adequate planes to carry on conventional bombing and not enough ships or planes to bring supplies in a timely manner. The war will be long over before the capability could be rebuilt.

The economic crisis is also military and leadership crisis - all the makings for a world war.

Dennis

Out military posture degenerated to this: We can launch nukes to any point on the globe from right here at home. Who needs to ship men and arms when you can ship death and destruction by express.

Ba'al Chatzaf

Does the US have the will to use nukes when losing a conventional war not involving the homeland? I know the present administration does not. I doubt Jimmy Carter did.

We also have the issue of internal security which is in dire straights. Even if we have nuclear capabilities I suspect any serious intent to use them would be leaked directly to the enemy. If any other major nuclear power threatened nukes in retaliation our current political leaders would fold in a second.

Unless nukes are a real option there is limited deterrence left - hence a greatly increased threat of World War III.

Dennis

[BaalChatzaf]

Does the US have the will to use nukes when losing a conventional war not involving the homeland? I know the present administration does not. I doubt Jimmy Carter did.

Of course not. We are government by dolts, knaves and wusses.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[Peter]

Ba'al Chatzaf wrote:

Out military posture degenerated to this: We can launch nukes to any point on the globe from right here at home. Who needs to ship men and arms when you can ship death and destruction by express.

end quote

Dennis responded:

Does the US have the will to use nukes when losing a conventional war not involving the homeland?

end quote

We have two young leaders testing each other: Our President Obama and Fearless Leader Un of North Korea. Obama, beneath a democrat veneer is a fascist / socialist and Un is a communist / monarchist. What if Kim Jong Un launches an attack starting with his 70,000 artillery pieces able to reach the southern capital Seoul, and also strikes thousands of American troops between Seoul and the DMZ? What if Un uses a working nuke or a dirty nuke bomb? What if Un can reach Okinawa or Guam with the nuclear device? Or Hawaii or Alaska? He mentioned Washington in his last hysterical rant.

What if North Korea remains conventional but its 600,000 commandos kill or take hostage the 10,000 American soldiers within 15 miles of the DMZ? Then they march into the capital, Seoul which now looks like Dresden, and capture a million South Koreans? All would be hostages.

If you were President what would you do? What if our supply lines are too weak to support America against a week long blitzkrieg from Pyongyang? I have a hunch Baal, Dennis, and I might react as President Obama will react though we are more seasoned and older.

Dennis wrote:

Unless nukes are a real option there is limited deterrence left - hence a greatly increased threat of World War III.

end quote

A less seasoned person will react emotionally. Full of fear, adrenalin and testosterone Obama might just pick up that phone at 3am in the morning and say, Nuke them. Of course it all depends on how Red China and the Soviet Union react. What, you say? The Soviet Union is no more and now we have a more civilized Russia? I wish. And to think the markets were just starting to rally. Can I still get a Samsung phone?

Peter

[dennislmay]

Ba'al Chatzaf wrote:

Out military posture degenerated to this: We can launch nukes to any point on the globe from right here at home. Who needs to ship men and arms when you can ship death and destruction by express.

end quote

Dennis responded:

Does the US have the will to use nukes when losing a conventional war not involving the homeland?

end quote

We have two young leaders testing each other: Our President Obama and Fearless Leader Un of North Korea. Obama, beneath a democrat veneer is a fascist / socialist and Un is a communist / monarchist. What if Kim Jong Un launches an attack starting with his 70,000 artillery pieces able to reach the southern capital Seoul, and also strikes thousands of American troops between Seoul and the DMZ? What if Un uses a working nuke or a dirty nuke bomb? What if Un can reach Okinawa or Guam with the nuclear device? Or Hawaii or Alaska? He mentioned Washington in his last hysterical rant.

What if North Korea remains conventional but its 600,000 commandos kill or take hostage the 10,000 American soldiers within 15 miles of the DMZ? Then they march into the capital, Seoul which now looks like Dresden, and capture a million South Koreans? All would be hostages.

If you were President what would you do? What if our supply lines are too weak to support America against a week long blitzkrieg from Pyongyang? I have a hunch Baal, Dennis, and I might react as President Obama will react though we are more seasoned and older.

Dennis wrote:

Unless nukes are a real option there is limited deterrence left - hence a greatly increased threat of World War III.

end quote

A less seasoned person will react emotionally. Full of fear, adrenalin and testosterone Obama might just pick up that phone at 3am in the morning and say, Nuke them. Of course it all depends on how Red China and the Soviet Union react. What, you say? The Soviet Union is no more and now we have a more civilized Russia? I wish. And to think the markets were just starting to rally. Can I still get a Samsung phone?

Peter

Obama is about 10 months older than I am - but with a juvenile mentality I outgrew by the time I was in 7th grade. In addition to the problems Peter mentions I recall back in the `1990 - 1992 time frame the first strike weapon the North Korean's have in abundance are thousands of weaponized wooden single prop airplanes for low and slow bombing raids with chemical or biological weapons. Their sheer numbers would be overwhelming.

I don't believe Obama would do anything until the Chinese are on board. Allies and agreements mean nothing to him - it is all about the Maoist Revolutionary goals he holds.

It is hard to say what would happen after a North Korean first strike, the leadership of the South would be dead, we would feel the need to kill the leadership of the North then pay to rebuild both. The Koreas would likely be reunified with China controlling the unified Korea after we pay to rebuild.

Dennis

[BaalChatzaf]

Ba'al Chatzaf wrote:

Out military posture degenerated to this: We can launch nukes to any point on the globe from right here at home. Who needs to ship men and arms when you can ship death and destruction by express.

end quote

Dennis responded:

Does the US have the will to use nukes when losing a conventional war not involving the homeland?

end quote

We have two young leaders testing each other: Our President Obama and Fearless Leader Un of North Korea. Obama, beneath a democrat veneer is a fascist / socialist and Un is a communist / monarchist. What if Kim Jong Un launches an attack starting with his 70,000 artillery pieces able to reach the southern capital Seoul, and also strikes thousands of American troops between Seoul and the DMZ? What if Un uses a working nuke or a dirty nuke bomb? What if Un can reach Okinawa or Guam with the nuclear device? Or Hawaii or Alaska? He mentioned Washington in his last hysterical rant.

What if North Korea remains conventional but its 600,000 commandos kill or take hostage the 10,000 American soldiers within 15 miles of the DMZ? Then they march into the capital, Seoul which now looks like Dresden, and capture a million South Koreans? All would be hostages.

If you were President what would you do? What if our supply lines are too weak to support America against a week long blitzkrieg from Pyongyang? I have a hunch Baal, Dennis, and I might react as President Obama will react though we are more seasoned and older.

Dennis wrote:

Unless nukes are a real option there is limited deterrence left - hence a greatly increased threat of World War III.

end quote

A less seasoned person will react emotionally. Full of fear, adrenalin and testosterone Obama might just pick up that phone at 3am in the morning and say, Nuke them. Of course it all depends on how Red China and the Soviet Union react. What, you say? The Soviet Union is no more and now we have a more civilized Russia? I wish. And to think the markets were just starting to rally. Can I still get a Samsung phone?

Peter

I Kim Jong Nutcake launches a nuke or dirty weapon I would blow his entire country the fuck up. Kill them all and let God bury what is left of the bodies. Do I make myself clear? And China who needs us to buy their stuff is not going to start WW 3 if Kim Jong Nutcake is stupid enough to launch weapons of mass distruction on us. I say pop that zit and have done with it.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[dennislmay]

Beck reports this morning that 3 European nations now have 30% or more Nazi's elected to their parliaments.

Nazi's or communists are becoming their choices with limited government not even a consideration.

Not good.

Dennis

[BaalChatzaf]

Beck reports this morning that 3 European nations now have 30% or more Nazi's elected to their parliaments.

Nazi's or communists are becoming their choices with limited government not even a consideration.

Not good.

Dennis

How can you take that buffoon seriously?

[dennislmay]

Beck reports this morning that 3 European nations now have 30% or more Nazi's elected to their parliaments.

Nazi's or communists are becoming their choices with limited government not even a consideration.

Not good.

Dennis

How can you take that buffoon seriously?

Who do you take seriously? The dominant media has entirely failed to provide news that can be trusted. Even today we found out that Rupert Murdoch is helping the Progressive's in their final takeover of secondary education in the US - via the common core educational program. Until you have an answer on whom you do trust to provide news all I am hearing is name calling.

Dennis

[dennislmay]

Beck reports this morning that 3 European nations now have 30% or more Nazi's elected to their parliaments.

Nazi's or communists are becoming their choices with limited government not even a consideration.

Not good.

Dennis

How can you take that buffoon seriously?

Who do you take seriously? The dominant media has entirely failed to provide news that can be trusted. Even today we found out that Rupert Murdoch is helping the Progressive's in their final takeover of secondary education in the US - via the common core educational program. Until you have an answer on whom you do trust to provide news all I am hearing is name calling.

Dennis

Exxon-Mobil is running ads in support of Common Core as well. Beck and callers speculate it is a pay for play move to get the feds to release the federal permits for land they have been leasing but unable to drill on.

Dennis