dennislmay Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Physics Poll: Has today’s science rendered philosophy obsolete?http://physicsworld.com/blog/2013/01/has_modern_science_rendered_ph.htmlhttp://www.facebook.com/physicsworldThe reason theoretical physics and cosmology are in so much trouble istheir abuse/neglect of philosophical considerations.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Corwell Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Not the issue addressed. They're referring to philosophy in the way a layman to philosophy perceives the term (i.e., the questions that are usually parodied by cartoons and comedies). Translate any philosophical terms into laymen's terms and you will get a resounding "NO" to the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Physics Poll: Has today’s science rendered philosophy obsolete?http://physicsworld.com/blog/2013/01/has_modern_science_rendered_ph.htmlhttp://www.facebook.com/physicsworldThe reason theoretical physics and cosmology are in so much trouble istheir abuse/neglect of philosophical considerations.DennisNo matter how much trouble physics is in, it cannot match the burden that Aristotle (the most famous philosopher) and his followers laid on physical science with his wronger than wrong notions of motion and matter which he never bothered to check experimentally. Aristotle and his buddies delayed the development of proper physics for nearly 2000 years.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Philosphy ain't going anywhere.This topic reminds me of modern writers who periodically proclaim that the novel has died as a literary form.These folks are after the cheap profundity brass ring of fame.(Like those who blame Aristotle for delaying science instead of advancing it. )Folly trying to be vanity at play in the fields of the meaning of life...Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Corwell Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Philosphy ain't going anywhere.This topic reminds me of modern writers who periodically proclaim that the novel has died as a literary form.These folks are after the cheap profundity brass ring of fame.(Like those who blame Aristotle for delaying science instead of advancing it. )Folly trying to be vanity at play in the fields of the meaning of life...MichaelAlthough I use the term "thought" instead of "philosophy", we knows it's sticking around to stay. There will always be people asking "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrakusos Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I just posted this to Facebook:Michael MarottaThe world holds more than your physics, dear Horatio. Art, politics, and ethics all exceed the bounds of physics. The metaphysical and epistemological challenges of modern physics nonetheless must be in consonance with wider and deeper truths. Schroedigner's cat might be and not be, but New York City pretty much is, regardless of whether you look at it or not. It would take a philosopher of titanic abilities to derive ethics and politics from the metaphysics of physics as we know it at the moment. Imagine if a philosopher of the 19th century had derived an artistic theory from Dalton's atom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 OTOH, if by "philosophy" they mean what's taught in college philosophy courses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Philosphy ain't going anywhere.This topic reminds me of modern writers who periodically proclaim that the novel has died as a literary form.These folks are after the cheap profundity brass ring of fame.(Like those who blame Aristotle for delaying science instead of advancing it. )Folly trying to be vanity at play in the fields of the meaning of life...MichaelAlthough I use the term "thought" instead of "philosophy", we knows it's sticking around to stay. There will always be people asking "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?".The air vibrates and heats up slightly as does the tree when it strikes the ground. What is "sound"? Is it the longitudinal visco-elastic vibrations of a gaseous medium? Or is it the perceived effects of such longitudinal vibrations. Or it is merely the "firing" of the auditory nerves leading into the spatio-temporal lobes of the brain?Similar questions could be asked of vision. sight and light. If an A-bomb goes off over Hiroshima but there is no one there, does it make a flash?Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Bob,You suck at philosophy.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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