The Ultimate Final Prediction Thread - You Can Make Any Additional Predictions That You Chose To Make - However, You Must Make An Electoral Number Prediction

[Selene]

Electoral Vote for O'bama

Electoral Vote for Romney

Electoral Vote for Johnson

Electoral Vote for __________

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House final numbers? Dems_______________ Reps__________ Unaffiliated ___________

Senate final numbers? Dems_______________Reps__________ Unaffiliated ___________

[william.scherk]

You first.

[Selene]

Well I can see that this is another non-starter thread...

Romney ........between 297 and 325 electoral votes

O'biwan........between 241 and 213

[jts]

It doesn't matter who wins. If you voted for Obama or Romney, you worse than wasted your vote. Either way you get the same shit. Maybe a different ass hole.

Predictions:

Next 4 years:

4 more years of the USA economy going down. More people on food stamps. More unemployment. More homeless people. No end in sight. More government intervention to correct the problems caused by government intervention. All these problems will be blamed on capitalism.

Longer term (eventually):

Problems will get worse at an ever faster rate. People who have nothing to lose will lose it. When (not if) the people rise up against the government, the government will be ready. Martial law, FEMA camps, hollow point ammo, large coffins, all that. All hell will break loose.

This is one of my favorite quotes from Ayn Rand.

http://ariwatch.com/AynRandOnCreepingTyranny.htm

No tyranny in history has ever been established overnight. The method of dictators has always been a slow, gradual, well-calculated series of measures, each one of them seemingly innocent enough, easily alibied and explained by the ruler as embodying the best intentions in the world, and not one of them clear, direct and sufficiently flagrant to make the entire people – every single man on the street – realize that it affects him personally.

Each measure is passed without great trouble or violent public opposition because the average man does not see at the time, how it can possibly affect his own existence ... . Then, one day, he awakens suddenly to realize all his rights and liberties are gone. He cannot say exactly how or when it happened. He sees only the cumulative effect of single measures he did not consider important at the time he accepted them. He may be horrified and he may want to scream in protest. But it is too late to protest.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Adam,

I'll join in.

My prediction: Romney over 300 in the Electoral College and over 50% in the popular vote. He cleans up with people who live in places they don't poll much, but who will turn out in mass.

Here's Dick Morris to help a little on crunching the poll numbers...



Michael

[9thdoctor]

I'm going to go waaaay out on a limb here and predict that Romney will cross 270, and that at the point when that is conceded by the MSNBC team there will occur a Karmic Singularity such that the Zombie Apocalypse will immediately ensue.

We're never going to find out the full Electoral vote, having all had our brains eaten before the count is completed.

Been nice knowin' y'all...

[Selene]

This was in one of my legal e-mails and I was not aware of it.

However, I do know that the O'bama campaign has, on site, in the key states, legal teams ready to spring into action.

"But there is another important legal issue peculiar to Ohio that hasn't gotten much attention so far, though it will be a significant factor should the state’s election tally spark litigation. Under a

little-noticed provision of Ohio law

, federal election results cannot be challenged in state court.

The provision is relatively new. Before 2006, legal challenges to the results of any statewide or federal race went to the state Supreme Court first under a statutory procedure. But early that year, Ohio legislators passed a law prohibiting federal election results from being contested under state law. Such challenges must now be brought under federal law.

What’s not clear is how that would work. "There is no federal statutory law that creates the same sort of election contest as under Ohio law," says professor Steven Heufner of The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law. A plaintiff might, for example, bring an equal protection claim in federal court, Heufner says, though there does not appear to be a precedent for pursuing such a claim."

3515.08 Election contest.

(A) Except as otherwise provided in this division, the nomination or election of any person to any public office or party position or the approval or rejection of any issue or question, submitted to the voters, may be contested by qualified electors of the state or a political subdivision. The nomination or election of any person to any federal office, including the office of elector for president and vice president and the office of member of congress, shall not be subject to a contest of election conducted under this chapter. Contests of the nomination or election of any person to any federal office shall be conducted in accordance with the applicable provisions of federal law.

(B) In the case of an office to be filled or an issue to be determined by the voters of the entire state, or for judicial offices higher than that of court of common pleas, or for an office to be filled or an issue to be determined by the voters of a district larger than a county, a contest shall be heard and determined by the chief justice of the supreme court or a justice of the supreme court assigned for that purpose by the chief justice; except that, in a contest for the office of chief justice of the supreme court, the contest shall be heard by a justice of the supreme court designated by the governor.© In the case of all other offices or issues, except judicial offices, contests shall be heard and determined by a judge of the court of common pleas of the county in which the contest arose. In the case of a contest for a judicial office within a county, the contest shall be heard by the court of appeals of the district in which that county is located. If any contestant alleges prejudice on the part of the judges of the court of appeals or the court of common pleas assigned to hear a contest, the chief justice of the supreme court, upon application of any such contestant and for good cause shown, may assign judges from another court to hear the contest.

Effective Date: 10-01-1953; 05-02-2006

http://www.americanlawyer.com/PubArticleALD.jsp?id=1202577326795&Ohio_Election_Law_Quirk_Could_Play_Big_Role_if_Vote_Tally_Sparks_Court_Fight_=&et=editorial&bu=Am%20Law%20Daily%2FLit%20Daily%20Headlines&cn=20121106ALDHEDS&src=EMC-Email&pt=Am%20Law%20Daily%20Headlines&kw=Ohio%20Election%20Law%20Quirk%20Could%20Play%20Big%20Role%20if%20Vote%20Tally%20Sparks%20Court%20Fight&slreturn=20121006094755

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Dennis,

LOL...

I wonder what that dude would have thought if the Occupy Wall Street crowd had shown up at his door and moved right on in.

I bet Zombie Apocalypse would take a whole new dimension in his brain, or what would be left of it.

In fact, looking at the different Communist and socialist revolutions over the last century, I bet the people who got their stuff confiscated while they got shuffled off into dire poverty, or worse, reeducation and/or death camps, felt an awful lot like a zombie invasion had taken over the human race.

btw - That dude sure lives in a nice looking house... Hmmmmm...

Michael

[PDS]

My prediction: Obama wins by the skin of his teeth. Senates remains slightly Democrat, and House slightly Republican.

Stock market then goes promptly into the shitter.

[Selene]

My prediction: Obama wins by the skin of his teeth. Senates remains slightly Democrat, and House slightly Republican.

Stock market then goes promptly into the shitter.

And a specific electoral number for O'bama's victory is _____?

[Dan Haggerty]

I'll go for the long shot - Obama wins 300 in the EC but looses the popular vote ala Bush/Igor in 2000.

[goblueram]

Prediction: Gary Johnson receives 5.3% of the national vote for equal funding and ballot access in the next cycle.

Final result: Obama 262 - Romney 276

[9thdoctor]

I wonder what that dude would have thought if the Occupy Wall Street crowd had shown up at his door and moved right on in.

He's actually real popular with libertarians, particularly the show Firefly. This is kind of like when South Park did the episode making fun of Rand.

Anyway, I cast Kat's vote for Romney here in Florida. It took an hour and a half, I've never seen a line like that before where I go.

[Jerry Biggers]

How about an "Ultimate Final Wish," instead of a prediction? I think that I brought this up four years ago on this forum. MSK would have the details on what actually happened in the incident(s) that I am referring to, in Brazil)..

A number of years ago, in an election held in one of the Brazilian states, the majority of the populace was so disgusted with the candidates offered that they ran a donkey for the office,...and the donkey won!

Considering the choices we have been offered (by the Republicans in their pathetic seven "clown show" televised "debates"), pulling the lever for a donkey would not be such a bad alternative.

[blackhorse]

Romney gets 300-ish EV's, and Obama spends the next two months golfing and issuing pardons.

[caroljane]

I am writing this from, the library, as my unspeakable fooled-me-twice lemon of a laptop chose today to go on permanent strike, and as with a dying donkey no beatings or cajolings will revive it.

So I will have to miss the Election Party and I suppose WSS will never speak to me again. I won't get to jump out of the cake he has been baking specially, clad in my full regalia of raincoat and new tinfoil bonnet. My regrets are sincere and I hope to creep back into the postmortems or salutes to the new dawn, depending on the vote, asap.

In my present mood I will predict a tie, with wailings and gnashings of teeth and dreadful frustration, but no riots.

Gloomily

Carol

[william.scherk]

Well I can see that this is another non-starter thread...

Romney ........between 297 and 325 electoral votes

O'biwan........between 241 and 213

Your earlier prediction, Adam, was 325 for Magic Gonch to 196 for the Maoist Revolution ( and here is one example of how those numbers add up):

I see a much closer race now, and one that may not be known this evening.

Here is my present guess, more or less the same as my last guess:

For the House, the party of Mao will gain 201, and Magicpants 244.

For the Senate, the split will go Mao 52 seats and Magicpants 48.

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I will be keeping my eye open to exit-polls from Virginia and then Ohio. Ohio's count may be snarled in litigation if there are a lot of automatic recounts. Because of varied state regimes for 'provisional balloting' (where many more mailouts for mail-in votes were sent than which will be voted by mail, leading to counting delays as provisional ballots are aligned with today's in-person totals), it might not be apparent at the end of the night in Ohio just who will take it.

In popular votes, I suspect that the final results will give the edge to Obama, in the range of Mao:50. Gonch:48. I see no breakthrough for any third-party candidate.

What times does the party start here, anyway? -- I will start reporting my impressions once Virginia and Ohio close.

I think if Mutton cannot take Colorado and Ohio and Florida (all three), there is not much chance of him getting past 270.

As for the Post-Mao apocalypse, and the economic nose-dive, and for riots and civil war and stock crashg, FEMA camps, bunkers and exodus to Canada, I don't see anything major happening.

Edited November 6, 2012 by william.scherk

[william.scherk]

I mentioned litigation in Ohio over the election. One kerfuffle is over a software patch installed off the books that 'converts' election totals in XML data format into CSV format (comma separated values). Just a minor fix that helps the state-level reporting (which releases official totals) receive cleanly formatted results into their system. The patch is not a stand-alone conversion programme (off the shelf XML to CSV), but applied at county level, so far in 39 counties.

This was first reported on October 31 under the headline "Will "experimental" software patches affect the Ohio vote?"

The Free Press will be updating this breaking story as more information is obtained and analyzed, so stay tuned. The story for now is that the Secretary of State in the key swing state in the 2012 presidential has installed "experimental" uncertified and untested software to count a large portion of the Ohio vote.

This story has since moved on, but the basic bone-in-the-throat quality remains. The leftish hyena media has of course seized on it at the fringes, but we should expect a certain amount of trouble to emerge tonight in Ohio, with a whiff of partisan manipulation of the voting machinery. Dead bad news for a quick clean election if there is the least bit of chicanery from the state election honcho. This is the state that mailed out ballot order forms to the entire electorate, in a new bit of finesse on absentee balloting procedure. The state mailed back ballots to those requesting them. Then some portion of those ballots were mailed back. At the polling places, it will be discovered that you were mailed a ballot. What did you do with it? Hmmm. Okay, you can vote provisionally, and they will wait till later in the October (mail-in deadline) to count those late-comers stamped November 6th.

Considering the numbers at stake, any result other than a slam by either candidate will get mushy fast, at least in the media. Mushy numbers in state election totals are not a good thing, if the vote is close and the number of held-back and latecomer votes could be decisive, then it could be mush to the horizon. So I hope for fast breaking totals in Ohio one way or the other (and if chicanery is concealed, oh well).

That Maoist revolutionary rag Salon has weighed in. I don't know how to rate the cleverness of the Republican state election honcho. Was he too clever by a bit? Was he trying to fudge up any part of the procedure, or was he just stupid and partisan?.

Edited November 6, 2012 by william.scherk

[william.scherk]

Dupe, d'oh!

[blackhorse]

I am predicting a Romney landlside, enough of one that ObaMAO's attorney's won't bother with lawsuits.

[9thdoctor]

Considering the choices we have been offered (by the Republicans in their pathetic seven "clown show" televised "debates"), pulling the lever for a donkey would not be such a bad alternative.

Wait, isn't that what we did in 2008? And what about 2000? Aw hell, when was the last time the majority didn't vote that way?

[Selene]

I will be keeping my eye open to exit-polls from Virginia and then Ohio. Ohio's count may be snarled in litigation if there are a lot of automatic recounts. Because of varied state regimes for 'provisional balloting' (where many more mailouts for mail-in votes were sent than which will be voted by mail, leading to counting delays as provisional ballots are aligned with today's in-person totals), it might not be apparent at the end of the night in Ohio just who will take it.

William:

Just for your information, the concept of an "Exit Poll" has finally been completely discredited since the 2004 election.

Therefore, don't put too much validity on any of them.

Adam

[Selene]

According to Drudge, " Obama has 190 electoral votes and Romney has 191 locked."

This might come down to Wisconsin's 10 votes ...

Obama 265 Romney 263

[Selene]

Well folks...it does not look good for Romney...

[George H. Smith]

Those predicting a Romney victory are crazy. Remember that wishful thinking is a cardinal sin in Objectivism. 8-)

Ghs