Moral Fire From A Surprising Place - Pat Caddell

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Moral Fire From A Surprising Place - Pat Caddell

I just watched the most amazing video I have ever seen coming from a mainstream news person other than Glenn Beck.

 

I have never paid too much attention to Pat Caddell, except to vaguely sense something out of place with him, but not important enough to think about. He used to work for people like George McGovern, Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden (among other major Democrats), but, on Fox, he often sounds like a half-assed shill for the old-money Republican party--not in what he promotes, but in who he attacks and how he frames it. Amid a wishy-washy demeanor. Like I said, nothing much to think about.

 

And then, like Schindler--you know, the dude Spielberg made a movie about, the WWII businessman in bed with the Nazis who suddenly started saving Jews from the concentration camps--it looks like Caddell's turn has come and his hidden moral fiber has emerged out of nowhere.

 

All I can say is. "OK. I mean... OK... You know... OK... OK... I'm with you, Pat. Go kick their asses. And, hey... Keep it up."

 

His main point is that the press is becoming a threat to the USA. In previous times, everyone thought the press was a bunch of sons-of-bitches because they dug up dirt on everyone. Now, the press is shilling for one side or the other and refusing to bring up certain topics.

 

According to Caddell, the Democrat-shillers refuse to contest certain things because they want to protect Obama, i.e., protect their fat backstage agreements. And the Republican-shillers refuse to contest those very things because they want to do the same when the Republicans get power. And they're all in bed with each other, anyway.

 

They're not just telling you who to vote for. They're deciding what truth you should know or be misinformed about.

 

Since the American public overwhelmingly distrusts the press now, his fear is that a hugely popular strong-arm candidate will appear and start questioning the reason for the First Amendment--with the message that it's not working and nobody likes the results, so let's get rid of it.

 

I think his fear is well-founded. And it feels awfully good on my eardrums to hear someone from the machine speak out passionately--speak out with fire in his gut--on principle, not on party.

 

See what you think.

 

 

Michael

[Selene]

Michael:

Pat has been a voice in the wilderness for about five (5) years. I admire him because he has stopped pushing the Milgram button and he has stopped being the "good German."

Adam

[caroljane]

You mentioned who he used to work for. Who does he work for now?

[Selene]

You mentioned who he used to work for. Who does he work for now?

Caddell is a regular guest on the Fox News Channel, and he is listed as an official 'Fox News Contributor'. This has earned him the label of a "Fox News Democrat" by critics such as liberal opinion magazine Salon.com^[1] He has also frequently appeared on the conservative website Ricochet.com discussing politics.^[9][10][11]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/11/pat_caddell_on_obama_does_this_guy_have_any_idea_what_he_is_doing.html

[caroljane]

Ah, a freelancer. As Will Rogers said, there's nothing like losing a good government job to bring out a man's literary talent.

[Selene]

Ah, a freelancer. As Will Rogers said, there's nothing like losing a good government job to bring out a man's literary talent.

Now you are talking babes!

One of my idols...

[caroljane]

Mine too. Twain, Leacock, Rogers

[caroljane]

Leacock's "My Financial Career" is in my opinion the basis of modern fiscal libertarianism.

[Selene]

Leacock's "My Financial Career" is in my opinion the basis of modern fiscal libertarianism.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057339/

http://web.iiit.ac.in/~nirnimesh/Literature/MyFinancialCareer.htm

[caroljane]

Hey thanks Adam! I had no idea that little classic was ever filmed or animated,

[Robert Campbell]

One hell of a speech (and Q & A) by Pat Caddell.

Robert Campbell

[Selene]

One hell of a speech (and Q & A) by Pat Caddell.

Robert Campbell

Yep. I have a great deal of respect for him.

[GALTGULCH8]

I understand Caddell's outrage and concern. However I think he is misdiagnosing the problem. What makes me suspect that is that he talks about how Romney should be fighting back and the GOP should be more active as well.

Is Caddell unaware of the shenanigans the GOP pulled during the delegate selection process and the Tampa convention where they changed the rules in the middle of the game just to keep Ron Paul from getting a chance to speak for fifteen minutes?

I think that there are certain people who are hardcore something whether it is Marxists or socialists who want to transform America into their vision of utopia or their vision of a truly socially just society and will stop at nothing to achieve that end.

Witness the Supreme Court Justice Kagan who wrote her doctoral dissertation on the history of socialist political parties in New York City. It read like a proper historical documentary until you got to the last paragraph in which she revealed her desire to transform America. She clearly has an agenda. So do those already elected to the Congress and the Senate and the White House.

So do some of my fellow delegates in the Massachusetts Medical Society who are advocates of a single payer system of medical care. They are clearly dedicated to that task and come back with resolution after resolution, year after year, despite repeatedly being defeated, they are the human equivalent of pit bulls who tenaciously advance their cause.

there is no doubt that some like minded die hard advocates of socialism found themselves in the Fourth Estate. Some are obvious such as Krugman, some are somewhat less obvious like Soros, but no doubt some are simply taking advantage of opportunities to report certain things and choose to neglect to report other things, all in the service of their agenda and their ultimate objective.

Reminds me of the scene in The Fountainhead where Elsworth Toohey reveals his true feelings and goals to the Second Hander, Peter Keating, saying that he is helping to lay the foundation for some future ruler who will cash in and take over the country.

Notice how the Presidential Debate Commission contrives to keep the debate limited to the major party candidates with its irrational rules. A third party candidate who is on the ballot in sufficient states to theoretically win enough Electoral College votes is kept off the debates because he is not yet over 15% in five national polls.

So when voters see a candidate on the ballot on Election Day they will know nothing about him or her but will choose the lesser of two evils, unless they are really ignorant enough to really want one of the major candidates.

Caddell is correct that the press is not doing the job but he doesn't seem to suspect that they have an agenda in so doing.

[caroljane]

Gulch,

Your pit bull colleagues may have visited Canada and noticed that the patients in a single payer system die and recover at the same rate or better than in a chaotic HMO-run one, and that the doctors make a good living, with less paperwork and fewer bosses than in the US.

[Selene]

I understand Caddell's outrage and concern. However I think he is misdiagnosing the problem. What makes me suspect that is that he talks about how Romney should be fighting back and the GOP should be more active as well.

Is Caddell unaware of the shenanigans the GOP pulled during the delegate selection process and the Tampa convention where they changed the rules in the middle of the game just to keep Ron Paul from getting a chance to speak for fifteen minutes?

I think that there are certain people who are hardcore something whether it is Marxists or socialists who want to transform America into their vision of utopia or their vision of a truly socially just society and will stop at nothing to achieve that end.

Witness the Supreme Court Justice Kagan who wrote her doctoral dissertation on the history of socialist political parties in New York City. It read like a proper historical documentary until you got to the last paragraph in which she revealed her desire to transform America. She clearly has an agenda. So do those already elected to the Congress and the Senate and the White House.

So do some of my fellow delegates in the Massachusetts Medical Society who are advocates of a single payer system of medical care. They are clearly dedicated to that task and come back with resolution after resolution, year after year, despite repeatedly being defeated, they are the human equivalent of pit bulls who tenaciously advance their cause.

there is no doubt that some like minded die hard advocates of socialism found themselves in the Fourth Estate. Some are obvious such as Krugman, some are somewhat less obvious like Soros, but no doubt some are simply taking advantage of opportunities to report certain things and choose to neglect to report other things, all in the service of their agenda and their ultimate objective.

Reminds me of the scene in The Fountainhead where Elsworth Toohey reveals his true feelings and goals to the Second Hander, Peter Keating, saying that he is helping to lay the foundation for some future ruler who will cash in and take over the country.

Notice how the Presidential Debate Commission contrives to keep the debate limited to the major party candidates with its irrational rules. A third party candidate who is on the ballot in sufficient states to theoretically win enough Electoral College votes is kept off the debates because he is not yet over 15% in five national polls.

So when voters see a candidate on the ballot on Election Day they will know nothing about him or her but will choose the lesser of two evils, unless they are really ignorant enough to really want one of the major candidates.

Caddell is correct that the press is not doing the job but he doesn't seem to suspect that they have an agenda in so doing.

Sadly, Gulch, your same sad song, just has no sustainability with the prime voter.

Sorry to be so direct.

[Robert Campbell]

Your pit bull colleagues may have visited Canada and noticed that the patients in a single payer system die and recover at the same rate or better than in a chaotic HMO-run one, and that the doctors make a good living, with less paperwork and fewer bosses than in the US.

Carol,

I await your review of the National Health Service in Great Britain.

Robert Campbell

[Robert Campbell]

I understand Caddell's outrage and concern. However I think he is misdiagnosing the problem. What makes me suspect that is that he talks about how Romney should be fighting back and the GOP should be more active as well.

Is Caddell unaware of the shenanigans the GOP pulled during the delegate selection process and the Tampa convention where they changed the rules in the middle of the game just to keep Ron Paul from getting a chance to speak for fifteen minutes?

Gulch,

Maybe the point is that Mitt Romney is willing to play hardball against other Republicans, but not against the New York Times, ABC News, etc.

Robert Campbell

[caroljane]

Your pit bull colleagues may have visited Canada and noticed that the patients in a single payer system die and recover at the same rate or better than in a chaotic HMO-run one, and that the doctors make a good living, with less paperwork and fewer bosses than in the US.

Carol,

I await your review of the National Health Service in Great Britain.

Robert Campbell

You would have to wait awhile, as I do not know anything about it, nor about the socialised medicine in the Scandinavian countries or any other westernised nations that might have it. I only speak of my own country. The comments about doctors I remember from three doctors, two relatives and my own family doctor, who have worked in the States. One in Maine and two in Florida.

[basimpson22]

So happy to hear him call out George Hippopotamus. Detest that guy!

[Dglgmut]

Your pit bull colleagues may have visited Canada and noticed that the patients in a single payer system die and recover at the same rate or better than in a chaotic HMO-run one, and that the doctors make a good living, with less paperwork and fewer bosses than in the US.

Carol,

I await your review of the National Health Service in Great Britain.

Robert Campbell

You would have to wait awhile, as I do not know anything about it, nor about the socialised medicine in the Scandinavian countries or any other westernised nations that might have it. I only speak of my own country. The comments about doctors I remember from three doctors, two relatives and my own family doctor, who have worked in the States. One in Maine and two in Florida.

But isn't it that there hasn't been real competition between insurance companies for a while in the States? I don't think Canada's health care is that great, but maybe that's because I'm not just comparing it to countries that have screwed up even worse.

[Robert Campbell]

The comments about doctors I remember from three doctors, two relatives and my own family doctor, who have worked in the States. One in Maine and two in Florida.

For starters, most doctors in the United States do not work for HMOs.

Robert Campbell