Canadian Politics: Boring beyond Belief, or just Dull and Tedious?

[Strictlylogical]

12 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

There will probably be enough idiots under 40 that will be swayed by T2’s 40k FTSA to fuck things up…

Those under 40s, their mentalities, misunderstandings and emotions and vices and weaknesses, are not some kind of anomaly or a glitch in the system, "f"ing things up as you say, au contraire, they are an intended part of the system, indeed a main feature of the Nanny State to ensure things simply glide along "status quo". 

So they are not screwing things up, they are playing their assigned parts... albeit standing in the way of your wishful thinking.

[Jules Troy]

Yeah..all it is going to do is inflate housing prices even more..upupup she goes.

[Marc]

3 hours ago, Strictlylogical said:

Those under 40s, their mentalities, misunderstandings and emotions and vices and weaknesses, are not some kind of anomaly or a glitch in the system, "f"ing things up as you say, au contraire, they are an intended part of the system, indeed a main feature of the Nanny State to ensure things simply glide along "status quo". 

So they are not screwing things up, they are playing their assigned parts... albeit standing in the way of your wishful thinking.

Take a look at Instagram I think that the account is called the six or the 6 or something referring to Toronto.

Pretty sure that no one over 40 is even on that account and basically everyone is spoyting anti Trudeau comments.

 

[william.scherk]

19 hours ago, Marc said:

Just as a correction though, his father seized power in 1959 with Che.

Marc, I am referring to back-to-back father-son Strahls -- MPs for my riding in Chilliwack-Hope for 28 years and counting.

Pierre Trudeau was MP for Mount-Royal from 1965 to 1984. Justin Trudeau ran and won in Papineau in 2008, taking the riding from the Bloc Quebecois.

John Diefenbaker's Progressive Conservatives won the largest majority (208 seats) in Canadian history in 1958, not exceeded until Mulroney's second majority (295) in 1998.

[Marc]

20 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Marc, I am referring to back-to-back father-son Strahls -- MPs for my riding in Chilliwack-Hope for 28 years and counting.

Pierre Trudeau was MP for Mount-Royal from 1965 to 1984. Justin Trudeau ran and won in Papineau in 2008, taking the riding from the Bloc Quebecois.

John Diefenbaker's Progressive Conservatives won the largest majority (208 seats) in Canadian history in 1958, not exceeded until Mulroney's second majority (295) in 1998.

Got it thanks!

I was referring to Justin being Fidels son.

#juatsaying 

[Jules Troy]

2 hours ago, Marc said:

Got it thanks!

I was referring to Justin being Fidels son.

#juatsaying 

Well..his mother was whore…

[Marc]

9 minutes ago, Jules Troy said:

Well..his mother was whore…

Ouch! 

Maggie and the Rolling Stones, so the legend goes.

[Peter]

On 2/10/2011 at 10:54 PM, caroljane said:

You Americans have your problems, but never knowing when you will have to elect a new government is not one of them. You at least can be sure that when you elect a President, you are pretty much stuck with him for four years, whatever he does.

Like Biden? No pun intended, Canadia. Hee, hee. Ah. What wonderful neighbors.  

Anna Paquin is the first millennial to have received an Academy Award nomination for acting, and the first to win. She was born on July 24, 1982 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, to Mary (Brophy), an English teacher from Wellington, New Zealand, and Brian Paquin, a Canadian phys-ed teacher. Anna moved . . . . 

[Jules Troy]

And we have so many fucking idiots in this country T2 will probably get in again.  I need to leave before it becomes even more of a socialist shithole.

[Marc]

48 minutes ago, Jules Troy said:

And we have so many fucking idiots in this country T2 will probably get in again.  I need to leave before it becomes even more of a socialist shithole.

See what they did in Alberta today?

Anyway, I'm promising you that we have a Conservative minority and maybe a majority.

I see very few Liberal signs, Toronto Instagram accounts are full of millenials bashing Trudeau and when he steps foot in Ontario, folks are throwing rocks at him.

I have not spoken to a single person who is not totally pissed at him.

Only concern that I have is now elections Canada is coming out saying that they may take multiple days to count the mail in ballots.

 

[Strictlylogical]

1 hour ago, Jules Troy said:

And we have so many fucking idiots in this country T2 will probably get in again.  I need to leave before it becomes even more of a socialist shithole.

The Socialism and the Shit have now been Global Citizens for quite some time now… the conundrum is where to go?

[Jules Troy]

2 hours ago, Strictlylogical said:

The Socialism and the Shit have now been Global Citizens for quite some time now… the conundrum is where to go?

Portugal? Maybe Spain.

[Peter]

1 hour ago, Jules Troy said:

Portugal? Maybe Spain.

Just wait three more years and come to America.

[Strictlylogical]

7 hours ago, Peter said:

Just wait three more years and come to America.

That seems a tad bit over optimistic.

We're only seeing the tip of the ice berg of decades of past (as well as current) leftist indoctrination at all levels of education and in many governmental and quasi-government institutions... and the trend is decidedly toward Marxism. 

Turning the tide only now (IF it can be turned) means at least a few more decades to get back to where we were or should be.

 

Maybe move to Spain or Portugal and suggest your children think about coming back to America when the time is right, if ever.

[Peter]

Caroljane. I start this thread at the suggestion of a compatriot whom I interrupted in the midst of a Mideast discussion, because I had become alarmed at signs that Canada will be going to the polls again, as soon as the polls are favourable for the Government. end quote

Stalemate? You guys need a Trump.

Trudeau’s Liberals were leading or elected in 157 seats — exactly the same number they won in 2019, 13 short of the 170 needed for a majority in the House of Commons. The Conservatives were leading or elected in 121 seats, the same number they won in 2019. The leftist New Democrats were leading or elected in 29, a gain of five seats, while the Quebec-based Bloc Québécois was down three at 28 and the Greens remained at two seats.

[william.scherk]

From Dan Hannan of the Washington Examiner:

Conservatives everywhere should fear a Canada-like future

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[...] On this reading, Canada is not some politically correct outlier. It is a harbinger of our common future. It was exactly half a century ago that Pierre Trudeau, father of the current prime minister, declared his country multicultural. Coming just as what was left of the British Empire dissolved, taking with it what had been Anglophone Canada’s original identity, that malign decree redefined Canadian patriotism in essentially leftist terms. To be Canadian meant not being American. It meant being kinder, more cooperative, more statist, more highly taxed, more United Nations-compliant, and, not least, readier to repudiate your national story.

[...]

 

[Peter]

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

Ô Canada!
Terre de nos aïeux,
Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux! . . . .

A Canadian woman was woken up by a meteorite on October 3, which crashed through her roof. Ruth Hamilton saw a smoking space rock inches away from her head, according to CBC News. Experts at Western University in London, Ontario, confirmed that the rock was a meteorite. Ruth Hamilton was woken up by a cosmic crash on October 3, when a meteorite blazed through her roof and landed on her pillow inches away from her face, according to CBC News. The woman, who lives in Golden, British Columbia, Hamilton told CBC she was woken up by her dog barking. "The next thing was just a huge explosion and debris all over my face," Hamilton told CBC. "I jumped out of bed and turned on the lights. I didn't know what else to do, so I called 911." Hamilton said that in a dazed, she "rolled back one of the two pillows I'd been sleeping on and in between them was the meteorite." Other photos in CBC's report show Hamilton's roof with a hole pierced through it . . . .

[william.scherk]

On 2/10/2011 at 7:54 PM, caroljane said:

You Americans have your problems, but never knowing when you will have to elect a new government is not one of them. You at least can be sure that when you elect a President, you are pretty much stuck with him for four years, whatever he does.

At the time, seemed perceptive and true in the main. Caroljane now lives in the wonderful province of New Brunswick, a strange and festive place -- like Maine but more plaid, more 'visible minorities'° and with deeply-rooted francophone communities still alive. Real down home. One of Canada's "traditionally" poor provinces (it's one of a handful of provinces where folks who raised families elsewhere while working in better-functioning economies still long to return 'home' and do so. Newfoundland perhaps instills the strongest longing to return. I wonder if it is the kind of longing that Americans feel for West Virginia and other gorgeous Appalachian states, if they have been forced to go elsewhere for work).

Closer to me, a wonderful bit of news out of Alberta. The question Pandora wants answered: how do you change the Canadian constitution to stop cheating Alberta?

Resounding referendum results!

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When it comes to if the Alberta government should ask the federal government to remove Section 36(2) of the Constitution Act, 1982 — it was a resounding "yes."

Video: ‘This is a powerful statement’: Kenney says Albertans demand equalization payment change

More than 640,000 Albertans — 61.7 per cent — voted in favour of the question. Just under 400,000 Albertans voted "no."

Read more: On the ballot: Equalization referendum largely misunderstood by Albertans

"This is a powerful statement today," the premier said.

"A democratic state, where Albertans are demanding to be respected. You're demanding that the jurisdiction of this province under the Canadian Constitution be respected and demanding that we'd be able to develop this economy and responsibly develop our resources so that yes, the rest of Canada can continue to benefit from Alberta's future prosperity."

Kenney went on to say later Tuesday he'll be making a motion in the legislature to ratify the referendum results and to initiate the amendment process.

The path forward on equalization not clear
Kenney has said while the vote was about removing equalization, he actually wants to use it as leverage to address all federal transfers that he feels are unfair to Alberta.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said last week that Kenney knows the federal government can't unilaterally change the Constitution.

Trudeau said it can only be done with "significant consensus" involving Ottawa working with seven provinces or territories representing more than 50 per cent of the population.

He also questioned why Kenney was campaigning against an equalization program that was last tweaked by a federal Conservative cabinet that included Kenney. [...]

Rather than giving you a link, I'll let you chase down variants of the story as it ripens.⁺ Although our national politics observes a relative flatline of excitement compared to the behemoth to the south, constitutional questions can strike hot up here now and again. It took tough political will for the more accomplished Trudeau to 'repatriate' the Empire-era constitution back in the day^†. Much political strife attended Mulroney's doomed attempts to fix the Trudeau errors.

It's interesting that Kenney may be seen having botched COVID-19 -- that he has yet to recover from abysmal polling^** that reflect the botch. With a pivot to the constitution, he'll claw back support from the communist Rachel Notley, a one-term wonder (wonder why she's still leader).

This could in the next year or so result in a national referendum, a rare campaign on our calendars. I'd vote with Alberta and Quebec and British Columbia: more sovereign provinces can deliver "peace, order and good government."  We're gonna trim back your meddling, your slovenly accounting, your slush funds and the ability to rob and plunder rich provinces.

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** All polls are wrong. RONG!

† 1982

Canada and the Behemoth: 

Spoiler

⁺ Just kidding. 

Alberta referendum results are in, Kenney speaks to results

WWW.MSN.COM

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Those in Alberta took to the polls Oct. 18 to cast their municipal vote along with their vote when it comes to two referendum questions.

° I am probably getting this wrong and should credit Nova Scotia, but where else in North America do you get A Snowshoveler Bhangra? 

I enjoy "reading" from text-to-speech and from podcasts. I augment the sound with various "road trips" on YouTube. Some of the West Virginian landscapes are just plain downhome beautiful. 

Here's a 360 degree video of a hike Michael and Deanna mentioned elsewhere this week. I am happy to hear of Michael's milestone approaching.

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by william.scherk
I apparently could not shut up. I credit that burst of energy to the flu vaccination I got today. Referendums Rule!

[ThatGuy]

Moving my Canadian Corona Convoy posts from the Corona thread to here...
(Guess it's not so "boring beyond belief", right now...)
 

 

[ThatGuy]

Canadian truckers send Trudeau into hiding — and just might help...

NYPOST.COM

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While Justin was comfortably in hiding, thousands braved an extreme-cold warning to join truck drivers who’d come to Parliament Hill from...

"Canadian truckers send Trudeau into hiding — and just might help end COVID mandates"

[Marc]

37 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

Canadian truckers send Trudeau into hiding — and just might help...

NYPOST.COM

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While Justin was comfortably in hiding, thousands braved an extreme-cold warning to join truck drivers who’d come to Parliament Hill from...

Canadian truckers send Trudeau into hiding — and just might help end COVID mandates

Might? 

Saskatchuwan is supporting truckers and Toronto is basically doing the same! 

Its only just begun!!!!!!

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

Moving my Canadian Corona Convoy posts from the Corona thread to here...

TG,

That was one hell of a thread drift, wasn't it?

I should, I suppose try to move the Canadian truck convoy discussion over to here, but the last time I tried to do something like that, I deleted the entire friggin' thread and it was a mess getting it back up.

 

However, I do suggest a few links back and forth between the threads and hopefully the discussion ends up settling here.

For the time being, if anyone is interested, Dglgmut kicked off that discussion with this post of January 24. Here is the part I later quoted for those interested.

On 1/24/2022 at 6:59 PM, Dglgmut said:

For those who don't know, there is a convoy protesting the vaccine mandates in Canada, particularly for truckers, heading to Ottawa. I have heard it will be around 50,000 trucks and 500,000 people, though I can't find those numbers anywhere now, so who knows.

But it just laid there for a few days. Then I (lil' ole' me  ) ramped up the discussion on January 27 by quoting it. From there, the discussion took off. Here is that post for those interested (minus Dglgmut's quote above since the software makes that difficult).

 

On 1/27/2022 at 7:30 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

This is a story the mainstream media is trying to kill. But it's hard as hell to ignore all those goddam trucks.

HISTORIC! Over 50,000 Truckers Join Freedom Convoy Through Canada Protesting COVID Mandates – Massive Crowds of Canadians Show Up In Support

 

HISTORIC! Over 50,000 Truckers Join Freedom Convoy Through Canada Protesting COVID Mandates - Massive Crowds of Canadians Show Up In Support

WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM

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An estimated 50,000 Canadian truckers are traveling across Canada in a massive caravan protesting the COVID mandates. Conservative Treehouse reported on this historic event. The...

Nobody is talking about this right now in the mainstream media because shortages from truck delivery have not yet hit the stores. But pretty soon it will.

And then the chattering class will start chattering, the mainstream media will try to spin this as Trump's fault or something, Canadians will hate Trudeau even more, and the world will go on.

Except for one thing.

Those trucks ain't going nowhere and it's hard as hell to ignore all those goddam trucks. They're blocking the goddam roads.

So anyone interested in this issue should go over there and check out the discussion.

But I suggest making future comments about the trucks here on this thread.

Let's see if that actually happens.

Michael

[ThatGuy]

5 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

That was one hell of a thread drift, wasn't it?

Funny how it's all so inter-connected; not unlike the integrated world-shaking events of, I dunno, say, Atlas Shrugged...

(Life imitating art imitating life...)

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Get a load of this:

First, I haven't talked much about Peter McCullough re the coronavirus and instead focused more on Robert Malone. That's not from any implicit criticism of him. It's just simply me not having the time enough to do both. But, for the record, Peter McCullough is awesome.

Now that I've gotten through the COVID stuff on the Canadian government thread,  back to the trucks.

Will you take a look at that?

The truck convoy is going to Washington DC.

Michael

[Marc]

6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Get a load of this:

First, I haven't talked much about Peter McCullough re the coronavirus and instead focused more on Robert Malone. That's not from any implicit criticism of him. It's just simply me not having the time enough to do both. But, for the record, Peter McCullough is awesome.

Now that I've gotten through the COVID stuff on the Canadian government thread,  back to the trucks.

Will you take a look at that?

The truck convoy is going to Washington DC.

Michael

Da da Canada

Nyet nyet Soviet