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  1. Let me guess before following the link: Doom? Punishment and control needed? Freedom bad? J
  2. OCASIO-CORTEZ ON MILLENNIALS: ‘WE’RE LIKE THE WORLD IS GOING TO END IN 12 YEARS IF WE DON’T ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE’ ‘At some point these chronic realities do reach a breaking point’ Jan 21, 2019 10:17 PM By Tom Elliott Play Video The world is going to end in 12 years unless the government takes action, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said Monday at a Martin Luther King forum in New York City. Here’s an excerpt from her interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates: “And I think the part of
  3. Yeah, it is about time for them to shift back to climate doom. Btw, has anyone suggested yet that the Russians' chaos/disruption/influence campaign began much earlier than anyone had thought, and that they sent Ayn Rand over here to trick us into not voting for democrats? I haven't seen it (I haven't actively looked either) but it has to be a pet theory that someone is preaching out there. J
  4. Flirt'n' wit' 'zaster -- flashback croakings of The Doom: U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked PETER JAMES SPIELMANNJune 29, 1989 UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, dir
  5. What are you trying to say, Billy? Are you trying to suggest that I'm being silly, tee hee hee, in characterizing leftists as presenting the issue as imminent Doom? Or what? J
  6. Yeah, I don't know how to bridge the communication gap here. I'm not asking to be educated. I'm not asking for you to determine what you'll need to teach me, what holes in my knowledge you need to show me how to fill, what learning disabilities you'll need to detect in me and remedy, etc. I'm not asking you to guide me and nurture me. I'm not in need of anything like this: "Let's see, hmmm, do you know what molecules are? You've heard of those? Okay, well, that's wonderful, and maybe we can move along a little faster in your education than I had anticipated. Energy? Have you ever heard of
  7. I think we've learned that climate isn't an important issue. It's now much less interesting than Q, or, really, any other subject. It was THE shit. But now? Meh. J
  8. Who should we sacrifice first in order to prevent the Doom™? What's the scientific consensus? And they should probably be tortured before being killed, right? J
  9. Climate deniers caused the fire. We need to punish them. Dishing out punishment is virtuous. The deniers thought their wrong thoughts, and those thoughts caused thought waves which created sparks, and the thoughts dried out brush and wood, and made the temperatures super hot. It's settled science. If you disagree, then you are a science denier and will be punished accordingly. J
  10. Check out this wonderful opening line of "journalism": Heh. Sea level doom is an "established fact!" Manhattan WILL be underwater in a few years. Lady Liberty will be up to her chin in ocean in a few more. It's a fact. An established fact. And the evil billionaire isn't obeying us! Damn it! We must be allowed to punish him! But until then, the best we can do is find solace in our smug fantasy that his property investments will be underwater soon. That'll show him to disrespect us and our Narrative™! How utterly gauche and uncouth of this Peres thing to not
  11. Jonathan


    OMG, Newbsie loves death. He worships it! It's his sense of life and his view of existence. Death is his metaphysical value judgment! Everything to him is doom, frustration and despair. Heh. But, seriously, cool painting. J Michael Newberry November 25, 2018 · He has borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how? (Stealing Shakespeare) mixed media, 24x20”, private collection. My at
  12. Years ago I saw a great variation on that cartoon: First panel, titled "Then," shows that same cartoon of a man holding a sign prophesying doom, with people walking by laughing at him. The second panel, titled "Now," shows a man holding a sign which states that we are not doomed, and all of the people walking past are laughing at him. J
  13. It really looks desperate. Heres more of classy, civil Obama: Remeber when ex-presidents had the dignity to fade from view, and then only occasionally return to elegantly deliver a few sage observations? Heh. Not Barry the agitator. Can't control himself. And he can't get beyond his favorite tactic of lying about his opponents via straw men. "They're saying that if our plan to make X happen succeeds, then the consequences will be horrific doom Y and Z. Fear
  14. Yes, and she has probably not only concluded that the one river that she was observing would run out of water, but that globally, all rivers would run out of water, that it was therefore settled science, and that it would be so, so wonderfully lovely if she could only beg and pressure Mr. President to take the issue seriously and agree that Punishments are needed to prevent universal doom. J
  15. Well, titter-snicker-tee-hee-hee! But where do you stand, Billy? Do you have a position? Which course would you recommend? How would propose that your nation navigate tariffs, unfair relationships, double standards, etc.? I know, I know: Trump is a dangerous buffoon and he is seriously risking offending our dear friends and allies by being nasty and not instantly acquiescing to their opinions and demands. Oh, dear lord, how embarrassing! How uncouth! And the forecasts of doom! Let's not forget those! My, how utterly ghastly, Maude! But what's the right course, Billy? What would
  16. You're right. My initial comments here were aimed at AGWers in general, but then as the conversation continued here, we've drifted more toward you and your views. My intention wasn't to target you like that. I think that some of my complaints apply to you, but when I was griping about my past discussions with AGWers, I was mostly referring to others, and not to you. To me it's an issue of having seen the goalposts move year after year, due to advocates of AGW having access to multiple sets of differing predictions, and switching back and forth between them at their convenience. That's not sc
  17. We need to take action now. And by "we," I mean Others™. In the short mean time, Billy, I know that you're not going to (can't) answer any of my previous questions about "the science" (tee hee hee), but might you have enough intellectual curiosity to offer up some thoughts on what "the science" should consist of? What are the ground rules? What is the methodology? Can you give some idea of how you think it should work, and maybe show that proposed method successfully applied to phenomena other than or in addition to climate? No? More steamed octopus? M-Kay. J
  18. The new settled science of advanced imaging is that that individual storm was caused by pretend climate activists whose carbon footprints are hundreds of times larger than the average person. They are a very large group. J
  19. Yes, we need to mete out the punishments right now. We can't wait any longer. The climate gods crave blood. We must quench their thirsts. The Little Others™ must experience more hardship while forced to pay for our studies and cushy lifestyles. Pain. Glorious austerity. It's so very exciting! J
  20. No one is asking about ice cream octopus. Have you forgotten the questions again? Heh. How is it that you are so passionately, actively uninterested in them? Here they are again: In regard to the big picture issue of anthropogenic climate change (and not isolated, smaller pieces of the picture), show us the repeatable, successful predictions. Identify specifically what was the hypothesis, precisely what predictions were made, when were they made, what potential results were identified ahead of time as falsifying or invalidating the hypothesis, what the start and finish dates
  21. Are you suggesting that the adjustments referred to above are the only adjustments or modifications that have ever been made by any and all scientists and scientific organizations in regard to the issue of climate change??? No, its observation, and also a prediction, which could turn out to be wrong, but I doubt that it will. And I haven't suggested a conspiracy. One's not needed to explain the behavior of alarmist zealots. They don't need to organize, and I don't believe that they do, at least not often. It's probably pretty rare. No, they're motivated and rewarded more than su
  22. Please let us know when you can say, and when you can address all of the questions that I asked. One of the requirements that I've insisted on repeatedly here is that all information be disclosed, and that would include all of the relevant dates. And keep in mind that it would also include any modifications which were made mid-experiment to, say, instruments, methods of collecting and handling data, etc. -- you know, the type of things that actual real true scientists, as opposed to activists, would be eager to know about and to consider critically, and which, in many cases, should p
  23. Lately I've been hearing and seeing hints of the idea that attacking falsifiability may be the next tactic of the alarmists. I've heard and read climate scientists being interviewed who briefly mentioned that too much has been made of the concept of falsifiability in science, that real science isn't limited to your average person's childhood science education which includes falsifiability, and that climate science is much too important and complex to be limited to having to be falsifiable. One interviewee actually said something along the lines of, "Do these deniers actually expect our predict
  24. Billy posted a video which he likes to believe defeated the above claim. The video shows that someone decades ago used the term "climactic change" in a paper, and that therefore it has always been called climate change and not just global warming. So, we're supposed to forget what we experienced, and believe this fictional alternate history based on this one use of the term. We're also, apparently, supposed to forget that studies in climactic change at the time included theories that we were doomed to experience a new ice age. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia, see, here's a do
  25. Not as kooky as AOC's belief that the world will end in 12 years, but close: Kamala Harris: “In a Relatively Short Time, Portsmouth, NH Will Be Underwater” During a speech at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on Tuesday, California Senator–and Green New Deal supporter– Kamala Harris had a dire warning for the Granite State: The city of Portsmouth will soon be underwater due to climate change. And then there's Judy the science denier: Judith Curry Ret