Jon Letendre

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  1. 79.1% lower death rate in countries employing widespread early HCQ use.

    Covid Analysis, August 5, 2020 (updated August 8, 2020)
    Many countries either adopted or declined early treatment with HCQ, forming a large country-randomized controlled trial with 2.0 billion people in the treatment group and 663 million in the control group. As of August 8, 2020, an average of 39.6/million in the treatment group have died, and 443.7/million in the control group, relative risk 0.089. After adjustments, treatment and control deaths become 82.0/million and 637.0/million, relative risk 0.13. Confounding factors affect this estimate, including varying degrees of spread between countries. Accounting for predicted changes in spread, we estimate a relative risk of 0.21. The treatment group has a 79.1% lower death rate. We examined diabetes, obesity, hypertension, life expectancy, population density, urbanization, testing level, and intervention level, which do not account for the effect observed.

  2. 1 hour ago, Ellen Stuttle said:


    That is the worst insult to my thinking ability I have ever received from anyone in the 21+ years I've posted on O"vish lists.  Is it that you haven't read any of the material Peter's posted from Ellen Moore?  Or do you actually think that I would have written such stuff?

    I have not really read her, no. I see her in the Atlantis postings that Peter puts up but I don't usually read that old stuff. Maybe I would agree about her thinking ability if I dug in but she seemed rational enough and making discerning points from what little I examined. No insult intended.

  3. 29 minutes ago, Dglgmut said:

    But this isn't true, if it were then reality would also be a noose. The king may fear the peasants, he may also fear a wild animal, he may also fear a patch of ice in his path. These things all inform his actions; they all influence his choices.

    I don't recall which character in The Fountainhead says that about leashes, I think it was Wynand. His/her point was that not only the slave but also the master loses their authentic self in the relationship. The nooses "execute" the self at each end.

  4. 4 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

    Let me amend my previous post.

    I started listening to the lecture.

    Dennett laid out five scenarios of what religions might turn into in the future. Why five? Based on what? He couldn't be bothered to say.

    Then he laid down the law, with a title slide and all: "All but one of these (at most) is wildly wrong."

    That's one hell of a presupposition to accept on faith: that in the future ALL religions will morph into the same thing.

    That's easily refuted by a simple question, why has that never happened in human history, including now, and why are there no indications that this will happen?

    I want to keep watching, but the premise logic... man... I can't get into it.

    Signing off on that one...



    He knows because he is in the cult that is trying to make it happen. So is the Pope. And he too has been acting hard to make it happen, explicitly equating Catholicism and Islam, explicitly pushing One Religion. In their New World Order there is planned One (Luciferian) Religion.

  5. 5 hours ago, merjet said:

    Barbara captured quite well my recollection of Ellen Moore. Ellen considered herself an expert on Objectivism. I once had an exchange with her about her assertion that 'similarity reduces to measurement omission.' This was about 20 years ago. So my memory of our exchange is now vague, but it went something like follows. Peter posted what looks like part of it here. Seeing her assertion as gibberish,  I challenged Ellen to clearly explain it, with at least one example, and to cite passages written by Ayn Rand, especially from Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology, to support her assertion. She tried multiple times without success, usually remarking about how dense I was for not understanding the obvious. She would cite a passage from Rand which didn't support her assertion along with repeating or adding more of her own gibberish. Eventually I made a parody of Ellen forming the concept of orange (the fruit), that went something like follows.

    Ellen gathered together several oranges, not all identical. For example, some navel, some Valencia, some large, some small, etc. She could perceive their similarity, but she didn't yet have the concept orange. So she proceeded to measure the oranges in various ways -- their circumference around the middle, how thick the rind was, how many seeds were inside, how much each weighed, etc. She still didn't have the concept orange or grasp the oranges' similarity conceptually. Then I told her she had not yet measured how much juice she could squeeze out of each orange. She had a sudden flash of insight. She finally realized she had omitted the measurements of how juicy each orange was. Thus she finally grasped similarity conceptually and the concept orange.  😄

    Maybe you already know this but you write like she is gone. Ellen is here at OL, posting as Ellen Stuttle.

  6. 14 hours ago, tmj said:

    Was there only one ‘8 minute and 49 second’ video? I’ve never seen an entire video of the incident, but most of the clips I’ve seen seem to be of Floyd on the ground and from the same angle. 

     Given  the amount of obvious exposure , and the nature of social media , is it odd that not much seems to be known about the person who took ‘the video’? Or is this person known and I just missed it?


    Yes, there are usually many videos. I don't particularly believe Floyd even died. It could have been faked, it all looked goofy as hell. They worked together in the past, they knew each other. When you have some time try pinning a friend down with one knee to his head/neck and see how long it takes just about anyone to get out of that. What I see in the video looks like playtime, story hour, make-believe, false flag. They needed rioting in all the cities and they engineered a pretext for that.

  7. Note to anyone looking to discuss the pedophile Chrissy Teigen with Billyboy: When she is arrested and all her victims come forward you will never hear another word from him about her again. So, hurry up and discuss.

    Also Billyboy, Q is an operation of Team Trump, an anti-pedophiles operation at that and so your resultant hatred of it is neither surprising nor interesting.

  8. Perverse incentives are set up when someone owns a pathogen.

    Since they created it, they probably also had time to develop vaccines for it and/or cures for the diseases it causes.

    All they need now is legal immunity for the additional diseases caused by the vaccines and cures, for which they also have treatments to sell.

    I'm kidding, they have already taken care of obtaining total legal immunity for damages.

  9. 2 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:


    I just had the same thought.

    And we have his answer: no, he is not capable of explaining what gotcha he thinks he has. He wants instead to leave the impression he has a great gotcha simply by pointing to a link. Such a dumb fucking loser.

  10. Many pathogens have been patented.

    Seven year old article:

    "The outbreak of a novel coronavirus in the Middle East is not only raising worldwide health concerns but triggering questions about the ability of organizations to patent the genetic sequences of diseases for profit.


    "The virus was identified in September 2012, three months after the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, Netherlands, acquired a sample of it. The centre has taken out a patent on the virus’s genetic sequence.

    "While Saudi officials and the WHO have said the patent will impede the process of containing MERS-CoV and developing treatments, Erasmus has defended the move.

    "Albert Osterhaus, a virologist at Erasmus, told Bloomberg News that patenting the virus was a "normal thing to do."

    "Indeed, the patenting of genetically modified or isolated viruses is nothing new, says David Schwartz, a patent lawyer and partner at the Canadian intellectual property firm Smart & Biggar.  

    "You can’t patent a disease condition per se, such as cancer or influenza," says Schwartz. "But if you’re talking about patenting a lifeform like a bacteria or virus, if altered by man, the answer there is yes."