Francisco Ferrer

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  1. Yes, by moving into a secret location in the hinterlands Rand set a practical example for all her disciples to follow. They did... in Galt's Gulch. Good to know that all it takes nowadays for anyone to escape, I mean rise above the IRS, the Fed, the FDA, the FEC, the FCC, and the NSA is to move to a little valley and install an invisibility screen over it.
  2. From the Money Speech: "You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it's crumbling around you, while you're damning its life-blood – money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities." This crumbling civilization and jungle creeping into the cities that Francisco mentioned--what's the problem? All one had to do was rise above it by being an American Capitalist producer! In fact, why were all the heroes in the book sneaking off to Atlantis? All t
  3. In an individual, personal way, one could live as a cat burglar in Galt's Gulch and then brag about how parasitism is alive and well. When government takes one-fourth of the nation's GDP and controls all of the economy's pressure points, it is self-delusion to think of that country as a free market in any meaningful sense of the term. Of course there are shadows where one can operate without Big Brother's scrutiny. There were black markets in the Soviet Union, too. Furthermore, as government grows, the less the economy grows. And, of course, more government, less individual freedom. I have nev
  4. That's not an answer, Frank. It's evasion. Again... Why are Americans securing their economic freedom just the way things are right now... while you can't? Greg Since you have recently described the "separation of the state and the economy" as "utter bullshit," one may reasonably doubt that your definition of "economic freedom" is same as Ayn Rand's or any other prominent defender of laissez-faire capitalism. You've misrepresented what Greg was referring to. You did that by chopping off what you quoted. I know you've got brains. That leaves dogmatist or sophist, assuming you simply just didn
  5. I answered you in Post #151: I am delighted to hear that you live in that portion of the United States where there are no federal taxes; no federal restrictions on oil drilling, mining, farming, or forestry; no EPA restrictions; no federal minimum wage; no federal welfare program; no Federal Reserve-controlled currency or interest rates; no Anti-Trust Division; no federally managed educational institutions; and no federal gun restrictions. The fact that you've been so successful in Morrie's Gulch proves that the plan can be repeated elsewhere.
  6. That's not an answer, Frank. It's evasion. Again... Why are Americans securing their economic freedom just the way things are right now... while you can't? Greg Since you have recently described the "separation of the state and the economy" as "utter bullshit," one may reasonably doubt that your definition of "economic freedom" is same as Ayn Rand's or any other prominent defender of laissez-faire capitalism.
  7. Thank you for your comments. Henry George was a hugely popular 19th century political economist. He followed Locke's theorem that people own themselves and what they create through their labor. George insisted, however, that men do not create land and that therefore land belongs equally to all members of a community. George advocated a land tax (and no other taxes) to rectify the inequality of land ownership. This tax was called the Single Tax. George was also critical of intellectual property, militarism, and the role money played in elections. George introduced millions to the study of econo
  8. What utter bullshit. Face it, Frank... you're irreversably stupid... and you'll take it and all of its consequences with you to your grave as you deserve. Only losers like you blame (unjustly accuse) the government for your own lack of economic freedom. While Americans are securing their own economic freedom with the nation just the way it is right now. So how come Americans can do that... while you can't? Greg Securing economic freedom through a separation of the state and the economy is both a moral and practical political goal. It may not happen in my lifetime, but the closer we get to it,
  9. At William's request: My interest in political philosophy began when I read George Orwell's 1984 during the early 1960's. That was my wake up call to the dangers of unlimited government. In 1964 during the Johnson-Goldwater contest, my friends were for Goldwater and my family was for Johnson. In order to make up my own mind, I did hundreds of hours of reading to decide what should be the proper limits of government. By luck, the local library had copies of The Freeman going all the way back to the Albert J. Nock and Frank Chodorov versions of the magazine. There's a very good chance I read ev
  10. The answer to this question will depend on whether you're a seeker or a sucker, Frank. Not all agony is as meaningless and nihilistic as you imply in your question... ...especially when it's your own self inflicted agony of just and deserved consequences from poor moral choices. Agony can cause a seeker to question how they are living and to refine their character so as to rise above it... ...while a sucker like you stubbornly clings to your victim's blame (unjust accusation) of the government for your own failure to live like an American. Greg If agony is meaningful, then life consists of mo
  11. ...only in your academic fantasies, Frank. Impotently pouting about taxes like a petulant victim reveals the truth that you haven't learned how to secure your own economic freedom the American Revolution secured for you. It you truly followed their example... you'd be free. You're a sucker... and you deserve to remain one because you did it to yourself.. Greg If tax protests were impotent, then no voters would have been able to pass propositions or elect officials to reduce assessed value of real estate when it suffers a decline in market value. The fact that such initiatives have been succes
  12. The answer to this question will depend on whether you're a seeker or a sucker, Frank. Not all agony is as meaningless and nihilistic as you imply in your question... ...especially when it's your own self inflicted agony of just and deserved consequences from poor moral choices. Agony can cause a seeker to question how they are living and to refine their character so as to rise above it... ...while a sucker like you stubbornly clings to your victim's blame (unjust accusation) of the government for your own failure to live like an American. Greg If agony is meaningful, then life consists of mo
  13. FF, Start wrong, you end wrong. You established for yourself -alone- that there is no contradiction between rational selfishness and "service" to others. But there is. The distinction is I think, there's no contradiction between selfishness and empathy. How one reacts to one's compassion for a person or people draws us into an area which might seem subjective, or as I prefer, "of personal value". It depends: Are they the kind of people who need a temporary leg-up before finding their independence again - or will they develop an ongoing dependence on you? Did they come by misfortune by their ow
  14. I can't let this go, either. We are talking about John Galt here. There is no self after death. Not in Rand's conception. A choice and act to not have a self is not selfish. Nor unselfish. It is anti-self. And even that statement is not taking into account Rand's meaning of selfish as life-affirming through values. Michael We agree that there is no self after death. I explicitly said so: "It is not the self after death that is acting to bring about an end to a life; it is the pre-death self." Why should the self exist in agony? If one prefers nothingness over agony, that is a selfish preferenc