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  1. 3 hours ago, Wolf DeVoon said:

    Good heavens, you're stupid. You have it exactly backward. Not the least curious, a blockhead who paid taxes and invented nothing, thinks that's all there is to it, and congratulate yourself for what exactly? Taking stolen money from Hollywood, the cesspool, like diving for shiny objects in shit.

    Not even bright enough to look up from your Bible.

    Those are the words of a failure, Wolf. The kind of failure who is a sucker for utopia scams, because the scammers share the same unethical values that you live by. You're a victim if your own secular libertine values. That's perfect moral justice.

    My inventions create the wealth that buys my economic freedom. nodder.gif


  2. 3 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:


    And if you fail to do so? What then? And if you succeed?

    That's totally up to whever reads what I write. It's not up to me. Even if people don't want to accept responsibility for the bankrupt unconstitutional government bureaucracy they created out of their own need for it to be their benefits mommie... they're getting it anyway.

    I'm getting exactly the government I deserve... It's the one I created, that leaves me alone to enjoy my life. nodder.gif



  3. 1 hour ago, Wolf DeVoon said:

    Ooo -- I know that acronym, it's Portugal Ireland Greece and Spain, the worst basket cases, although usually spelled PIIGs to include Italy.


    Well... those are the same kinds of kinds of pigs, too!  :lol:

  4. 1 hour ago, Wolf DeVoon said:

    You did, Greg...

    Sorry, Wolf... I didn't.

    I have next to nothing to do with the government because I don't take what it offers to give. But I understand your believing I did, because you did.


  5. 4 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

    Catastrophe to whom?

    To the people who CREATED the government they deserve through their own FAILURE to govern themselves. This is perfect moral justice that people deserve to be fully exposed to the consequences of their own failure... and the US government is the perfect duly authorized agent of moral retribution to do it to them.


  6. 3 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

    The Nazis dehumanized the Jews in the 1930s setting them up for the Holocaust. Did the Jews first dehumanize themselves?

    Generalizations are one thing, but when they degenerate into collectivistic ideas such as your group and my group and fuck your group, it's time to reconsider their validity in the application. Objectivism is individualism first and foremost or it's nothing special.

    We can assume a Moralist will moralize but there's moralizing, yes and there's moralizing, no. I'm moralizing, yes. I'm talking to you, not your group. Note, however, the lack of name calling. Your group qua group seems fine to me, but I note also you're the only one of it here.

    Sometimes good ideas can go too far and they turn into crap. Not in this case. In this case it's merely infantile, clique-type ignorance.


    jumior high schools are full of it--name calling--and many high school students walk around afraid someone will call them a name

    Ok, Brant... :) do YOU explain WHO created the HUGE complex convoluted parasite infested $20,000,000,000,000 indebted unconstitutionally bankrupt bureaucracy?

    Duh... I do no... dit nobodee fawt... dit jus hapand. :lol:


    (the kid is an actor in the movie "Black Ops 2"... pretty good flick)




  7. 5 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

    can we avoid dehumanizing people...

    People only dehumanize themselves by their own behavior. No one else could ever do to them what they do to themselves.

    There is only one reason the US government is so large, so bankrupt, and so unconstitutional... pigs.


  8. 16 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    Greg--You've just confirmed what I said: our government reflects (however imperfectly) the will of the majority. This regime is called democracy. You preference seems to be oligarchy (or, you might call it aristocracy).

    While the US government reflects how the majority lives... and the majority are PIGS...

    ...the huge collectivist liberal socialist benefits dispensing bureaucracy bears little resemblance to America, and to the decent responsible minority of self reliant independent folks who still live like Americans.

    This is what I mean by not confusing the government with America.

    The government isn't America.


  9. 6 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    Greg--Our government is not entity unrelated to the people, it is their reflection in a considerable degree.

    Yes it is.

    The US government today bears little relation to the rapidly dwindling minority of productive independent private sector American Capitalists. Instead it has become the creation of the unproductive government dependent parasitic teat sucking majority who need the government to be their benefits mommie who takes care of them because they failed to properly manage their own lives.

    The government has almost nothing to do with my life or my values. It basically leaves me alone to enjoy my life because I an independent American who governs myself and who has no need for the government to be my mommie. I don't need its loans. I don't need its benefits. I don't need it to educate me. I don't need it to employ me. I don't need it to insure me. And I don't need it to take care of my health...

    ...because I'm a responsible adult American who does all of these things for myself.

    I'm self educated, self employed, self insured, amply self funded, and I take care of my own health. This is how Americans used to live, and they were the reason why the government used to be so small and Constitutional. Those days are long gone.

    America has become a nation of parasites.


  10. 20 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    p.s. I have to admit, that, personally, I find Greg's criterion ("making more money than you spend") ego-pandering. I'm almost 62 and I never borrowed a single cent in my whole life, nor lived off any inheritance. It looks like I'm admitted to Greg's "good people"'s  (a.k.a. American Capitalists) club. :)

    You are if you're not sucking off government benefits teat either. :) The only real criterion is producing more than you consume, not how much you produce. What kind of work do you do to support yourself?


  11. On ‎6‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 0:44 AM, BaalChatzaf said:

    Sometimes people "don't make a good buck"  for problems they have which they did not bring on themselves.   How about  high grade morons with a 70 IQ?  People like that  function at the lowest end of the labor spectrum if they are able to get jobs at all.   And it has been established empirically that IQ cannot be raised after a certain age by any known means so it is not like these happy retards  are not trying hard enough.   Or low  functioning autistic some of whom cannot  talk well enough to hold down any job. 

    I have a grand nephew Devon who stopped talking just  before his 2 nd birthday and there was no  outright disease or trauma that caused it.  He was finally diagnosed  as  hard core low functioning autistic.  Deven is a sweet cheerful  kid.  He is 12 o 13 now but he will never be able to function economically.  He is not stupid.  He has learned how to express himself using  a special CGI app we generations pictures, illustrations and diagrams.   But it looks like he will never talk. And then there are the poor kids with Tey-Sachs  disease.  Some of them live  into their 20s and 30s.  They will never be able  to hold down a job.  And they are not smart enough to be "immoral".   At worst they are amoral. Among the mentally retarded you find people who are happy, cheerful and are glad to do any task you give them that is within their range.  But their range is limited. Morally condemning these unfortunates is immoral (I think). That is like cursing the blind because they cannot see or the deaf  because they cannot hear. I can just see Our Moralist  Greg   coming to the conclusion that these  unfortunates  "got what they deserved". 

    Basic  Axiom  of existence on this planet  ----- shit happens. Also non-shit happens. 

    Bob... that's the mindf**k I've been talking about.

    You do to your kids exactly what your parents did to you...

    ... because you failed to learn how to solve your problems that got dumped onto you... so you pass them on to others.

    This is how unresolved personal garbage gets dumped onto the next generation... over and over and over.



  12. On ‎6‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 9:34 AM, Peter said:

    The government insisted I work for them. They forced me to work for the little money they provided. They sent me to a foreign country to protect people I did not know (though I got to like them). But then they let me leave a couple of months earlier than the two year contract I had with them which was nice. I still think being drafted was wrong but I don’t look back in anger. I still think about the adventures I had while I was a soldier.


    Hey, I got an early out from the Army, too! By remaining on duty in Vietnam for an extra couple of months. Experiences like that you just make the best of it so that you can come out of it a better person. :)


  13. On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 8:28 AM, anthony said:

    How much money? Where is the monetary dividing line between success and "a failed life"?

    The answer to your question is not scaleable, Tony.

    Producing more than you consume is the dividing line between success and failure in life.

    By producing more than they consume a person who knows how to live on little is still successfully solvent and financially independent, because they are working to provide for all of their own needs and wants.


  14. On ‎6‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 1:54 PM, jts said:

    That may be a correct principle but where in the USA Constitution do you see that?


    Jerry, why do you keep continually confusing the government with America? Don't you know that a nation isn't the government?

    The size and nature of the US government today is a precise indicator of how many people are failing to govern themselves. It used to be small because more people were decent enough to govern themselves. 

    More Indecent People =  More Unconstitutional Government


  15. On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 0:51 AM, Arkadi said:

    JTS--It's a failure in one particular respect; and it was, perhaps, due to his reading the Bible not attentively enough, as St. Paul advises to not marry.

    That's actually not the whole truth...

    "Now as to the matters of which you wrote me. It is well and by that I mean advantageous, expedient, profitable, and wholesome for a man not to touch a woman to cohabit with her, but to remain unmarried. But because of the temptation to impurity and to avoid immorality, let each man have his own wife and let each woman have her own husband."

    Are you a Christian, Arkadi?


  16. 13 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    Most slaves also produce more than they consume but they do not benefit from this. Neither did Jesus.

    Since you mentioned it.... Jesus also freed slaves. :) In America today, anyone who is a slave only did it to themselves.

    By the way do you live in America?


  17. 5 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    But then, do not refer to the Bible and its values, Greg. For by your measures, its major hero, Jesus, was a failure.

    Jesus produced more than He consumed. He provided food for 5,000 people and made wine from water. :P



  18. 51 minutes ago, anthony said:

    My query was if money is the only criterion of success for everybody. What about one who values higher his mental productivity, and can't find a market for his output? "Success" is not easily defined.

    The value of a person's mental productivity can be measured by their ability to find a market for their output. One goes hand in hand with the other. Of what good is an intelligent idea without the common sense to implement it? 

    This defines the difference between being educated in a University... and becoming enlightened in the real world.



  19. 48 minutes ago, anthony said:

    How much money?

    The answer is simple... making more money than you spend.

    This is a working definition of solvency. There is a link between solvency and good values. People tend to manage their money in the same ways as they manage their life.


  20. 4 hours ago, jts said:

    That may be a correct principle but where in the USA Constitution do you see that?

    Again, you're mixing up the government with the nation, Jerry.

    Here, this might clear up your confusion...

    "Our Constitution was made ONLY for a moral and religious people. It is WHOLLY INADEQUATE to the government of any other. "

    --John Adams

    The Constitution works ONLY for honest responsible people with decent moral values who govern themselves.

    IT DOES NOT WORK for the indecent...

    ...and HAS to be VIOLATED in order to govern immoral secularist libertines who FAIL to govern their own behavior.



  21. 15 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    p.s. Basically, you seem to me saying that a person who, by a certain age, has not made a good buck, can be neither happy nor having done what's morally right. My apologies if you did not mean this. But if you did, I've to say that it is patently false.

    Again, what I said specifically applies to America today because it was founded on the Judeo Christian work ethic.

     "If anyone is not willing to work, neither let him eat."


    In free, prosperous, industrious, Capitalist, opportunity rich America today, if a person isn't producing more than they consume, they are doing something morally wrong.

    I fully understand that unproductive government sucking parasites who infest secular liberal socialist welfare state crapholes live by completely different moral values.



  22. 16 hours ago, Arkadi said:

    Greg--"Free men are happy because the achievement of earning it makes them happy." It does not do so always; otherwise there would be no people killing themselves or others (like Simpson) after earning a lot. "Freedom is earned by doing what's morally right." Again, it is not always so: under some regimes, doing what's morally right paves one's way into jail. "Climbing a mountain is action. Discussing Aristotle is talk." Aristotle was not climbing mountains, he was "talking" (=discussing ideas, with Plato and his own students). Yet this "talking" influenced our civilization more than many actions like mountain-climbing.

    In your example of Simpson the murderer, he was an evil man who had rotten moral values. No one with rotten values is happy... and neither are they free. Simpson is in prison, and even if he was out he still wouldn't be free.

    And I'm not talking about "other regimes" or other historical times in the dead past either.  I'm talking about today in America... not some rotten liberal socialist welfare state shithole. America is unique in that it was founded, not on one nationality, but rather it was founded on a Judeo Christian moral values.

    I have a totally different view on mountain climbing than you do...

    If people didn't put out the physical effort to hike up mountains they couldn't travel anywhere to live in new territories and civilization couldn't be spread over the world.

    That's a way bigger effect than a talking Aristotle. nodder.gif