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  1. Shane,

    Once again you said "as soon as I read" signifying that you did not watch the video only read my notes. He said those things in a certain context which I did not include altogether. You have to watch it but I made the mistake of taking notes on the speech rather than just posting the link.

    My fault. 18May 5AM 153071


    Can't view movie links at work. Uncle Sam no likey.

    ~ Shane

  2. A few weeks back, Glen Beck did a piece on his show and he displayed a chronology of events leading up to and past FDR's New Deal. It focused specifically on how the people are fed up with both the Republicans and Democrats. We can see this with the sway of power every 4-8 years as the administration changes from one to the other, with ultimately nothing getting fixed and nothing serving the individual rights. It ties in with Beck's response to Binswanger.

    I happen to like Glen Beck, and that chronology and his understanding of what's going on only cemented that liking.

    ~ Shane

  3. I just now learned that the Rorschach is not only the inkblot Rorschach, but a comic book hero.

    I thought the comic above was the inkblot Rorschach, which is quite funny from that perspective.

    Boy am I out of touch...


    His character in the movie Watchmen (I haven't read the graphic novel) is outstanding. He walks a fine line, and even facing certain death, he never sways in his convictions. He was a no-nosense individual. I found him to be the best parts of the movie. If you haven't seen it yet, I'd say do so just to see him in it.

    ~ Shane

  4. I would prefer to teach people how to fish in those waters with dynamite sticks!


    Now that's an interesting spin on an old cliche.

    But as the Bible says: "Let he who is without wisdom cast the first stone." At the end of the week we will all have to find bigger steaks to fry. It isn't missile science. Not really. You don't need the patience of Solomon to enjoy the vegetables of liberty.

    As Ayn Rand said, "Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a bow and arrow begins." And "A leash is only a ball and chain with a noose on both ends." And the unforgettable, "Anyone who fights for the future, lives in perpetuity."

    It's all good, dude. A was A. But I am going to stop for now. After all, silence is silver.



    I needed a good laugh today. This was it!! Awesome, Michael. OLOL!!

    ~ Shane

  5. Gulch; Did you read Pastor Manning's comments?

    I feel nothing but shame that people would repeat such really disgusting comments about anyone's mother. The fact Schulz appears with such a person tells me all I need to know about him and I now suspect you.

    We disagree and I don't think you are going to convince me

    If we should ever be at the same place please do me the courtesy of not speaking to me.

    Without putting words into Chris's mouth, I think in this case I agree with his stance. My view is that regardless of the merit of President Obama's citizenship, it does the opposing crew little to no good to have someone like Pastor Manning slandering his mother it that fashion. It's racist, plain and simple. I do not recall President Obama ever touting being black or being an African or African American saviour. And to have a pastor wield words like that is shameful. It says to those who follow "it's ok."

    As soon as I read "white trash" I didn't want to read further. Clearly, the agena of the Pastor is racism in his statement, and if Schulz condones it...well, the rest speaks for itself.

    ~ Shane

  6. Arrested for videotaping a traffic stop, apparently...the activists at are now out of jail. They had just interviewed Dr. Paul in person a few days earlier. I understand all three are Free Staters and at least one is a resident of Keene, New Hampshire.

    Diggable at:

    Interesting...Keene is where I was born, though it's unlikely I know the person from there.

    ~ Shane

  7. GS,

    I could put the following in my own words (which I often like to do to make sure I fully agree or disagree with someone), but Rand did a really good job of it.

    See here (from The Ayn Rand Lexicon): Objectivity.

    (The last entry on that page is not Rand at her finest, but the other entries, especially the first and the one on axiomatic concepts are top notch.)


    Nothing quite like going back to the basics before taking your first step onto the "mountain of discussion."

    ~ Shane

  8. I sometimes get the feeling that objectivism was created to justify some political/economic belief systems.

    I am quite convinced that this is indeed the case. I came to this conclusion quite early on during my reading of her stuff. To me, it is the simplest explanation behind some of the glaring problems I see in Objectivism. She had to hold on to some rather foolish arguments in order to hold her political views together. I really do think Objectivism is nothing more than an attempt to justify the polar opposite of the political 'hell' she escaped. It was so bad, that only the exact opposite has to be the 'right' way. So she worked backwards from her political views - jamming all sorts of square pegs into round holes.

    I'm thinking in the same direction. Imo a lot of Rand's weird thinking is rooted in the experience of a political hell (and also of personal trauma, since she was an unloved child rejected by her mother who only "appreciated" her for her intelligence) she had to endure and finally fled from.

    All that "sacrificil animal stuff" she stresses over and over again in her writings - it was probably SHE who had felt that way back then in the USSR.

    Singing the praise of unbridled capitalism was later to become the credo of her belief system, and and the USA her Sangri La land guaranteeing it.

    Ayn Rand's book heroes feel no pain, they deny pain fervently. In the wishful thinking of her fantasy, she created invulnerable heroes because she herself had been so deeply psychologically wounded in her childhood, youth and early adult years.

    I'll say it again, Ayn was one person. A philosophical system has to be built upon. It will never be a perfect product. We could all sit here and bash a person that has passed away over 20 years ago, but I find that counterproductive to progressing Objectivism. Cite your criticisms, back them up and and proceed. Butchering her character while doing so only stands in the way of progress.

    ~ Shane

  9. There is always one important thing left out in the equation...the teacher.

    Teachers make or break students. If they are not in-tune with each student's aptitude and learning approach, the student that's behind will be left behind. Some students have a great knack, others have to work at it. But a great teacher will motivate and push each student to excel. One thing I found very useful was analogies to explain out difficult ideas and theories, creating a common ground to expand from.

    ~ Shane

  10. While I can understand the indignation at the argument of government aid, cutting 21,000 jobs can in itself be a necessary decision if a company is in big trouble. If a brand is structurally losing money, it's time to abandon it. GM is not a charity.

    The parts that gets deeply under my skin is that it's a tradeoff. It could have been avoided.

    ~ Shane

  11. GM cuts Pontiac

    I'm literally floored by the first few paragraphs. Read beyond that if you wish, but I'm apalled that GM would cut 21,000 jobs in order to secure more government aid - at the cost of taxpayers. 21,000 of those taxpayers will be losing their jobs in order to pay into GM's bailout.

    As little as I know about the inner workings of the US financial machine, this sticks out as fu$%^#! stupid. It would be entirely different if those folks were given new jobs in GM for their other brands, but decimation seems to be the fate of choice ushered in by the new administration.

    ~ Shane

  12. Frank O'Connor - Wikipedia

    I can find several passages on that page that would answer the question for me, personally. There's a quote from Ayn Rand in 1949 (some 20 years of being married to Frank)

    "All my heroes will always be reflections of Frank..."

    That tells me that Frank was the hero, not the comparison; the standard, not the exception.

    ~ Shane

    Could it be that Rand gave Frank hero status to justify him as her husband?

    For when you you compare the heros in her book to Frank, they differ completely imo.

    They are unempathetic (Roark is even a rapist!), cold, unfeeling, contemptuous (they mostly run around with a "mocking, derisive smile" on their faces), are often geniuses who excel at everything, etc.

    In short, they are everything Frank was not. He was a gentle, affable man with an artistic talent, but also conflict-shy and suffering from low self-esteem.


    To give you an honest answer on that, I'd have to read Fountainhead in it's entirety. I've only read excerpts from one of the books (can't remember which offhand...but it was a chapter that used parts of Fountainhead to explain issues such as ethics, iirc.) I did read the rape scene years ago, but it didn't come across as brutal or life-destroying, or even exertion of power. It came across as him taking what he wanted through desire and lust. Again without reading it in its entirety, I don't want to misconstrue the message Ayn was giving.

    As for Roark (and other heroes), I would say that Frank was their essence, not a carbon copy...otherwise it'd be Frank O'Connor, not Roark, Galt, etc. But I certainly can't explain away the lack of empathy that might come across in her characters, in your view.

    ~ Shane

  13. Do you have an explanation why Rand would consider her husband Frank O'Connor as a "hero"? :)

    I have one...she married him. I don't think she would have married if she thought otherwise.

    ~ Shane

    What do you think qualified Frank O'Connor as a hero in her eyes?

    Frank O'Connor - Wikipedia

    I can find several passages on that page that would answer the question for me, personally. There's a quote from Ayn Rand in 1949 (some 20 years of being married to Frank)

    "All my heroes will always be reflections of Frank..."

    That tells me that Frank was the hero, not the comparison; the standard, not the exception.

    ~ Shane

  14. Michael,

    I wholeheartedly agree you have paid the dues to write what you think in regard to Ayn. But the way you do it does not persecute her...completely the opposite if you ask me. It's one of the attributes of this site that keeps me here, and here alone. That was the main drive of my statement, or at least my attempt. I merely pointed to your reference because it had the word oversimplification in it, not you being the source of my observation ;)

    One way to put it is if you take issue with someone that you respect, you would say "with all due respect...[comment]". Some don't do that. Without a doubt in my mind, you say and show "with all due respect" to Ayn with your words and hosting this site.

    I hope you didn't take my comment as being aimed towards you, because my bow was pointed 180 degrees in the other direction.

    ~ Shane

  15. I have issues with her concept of moral perfection since I believe it is vastly oversimplified and has created a lot of mischief and suffering in the souls of many Objectivists.


    I'm noticing a trend of persecution that seems to be aimed at Ayn for a lot of her oversimplification of very important issues (not implying you're doing this, but the statement above reminded me of other more cynical references). But in defense of Ayn, she laid the foundation all by herself in the very beginning with her fiction. One single person has a very limited resource of experience (some more than others).

    Fine tuning Objectivism is something that will take lifetimes as more people adopt her tenets and expand on them, and share with those that are willing to absorb that way of life (such as the Brandens). Forums like OL are the branches of a yet-still-young philosophical tree. I'd be willing to read entries stating that "Ayn Rand stated this, and here's my interpretation of what she meant, followed by my opinion or counter."

    Too many people seem to fault her outright, but it's unfair. Take the good of Objectivism and build on it. Shore up those "oversimplified" issues until they are good and build on it.

    ~ Shane