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  1. Some further comment after Ellen's post ... Quoting caroljane: “... it [a vaccination ID] illustrates my point. A public health measure is not viewed [by those who object to this?] as what it is, a measure to limit the initiation of force by citizens upon each other, but as – well, what? An infringement on your sacred right to get sick, and make others sick?” The ending is sarcastic and “initiation of force” is designed to push Objectivists’ buttons. The mask orders, “lockdowns” of healthy people, limiting businesses, closing businesses, forbidding public assembly, etc. have to
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  2. I have often thought of the fundamental asymmetry between Marxist collectivists and classical liberals / radical Capitalism. The former relies on and is rooted in proactive force and cannot countenance the latter in any way, but instead must overthrow it, eradicate it. There can be no harmony with the latter's existence. The latter is pacifist like nothing the hippies would ever have dreamed up, with non-initiation of force at its base. Rather than outlawing collectivism as such (while of course outlawing collectivist use of force) the latter is perfectly harmonious with any
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  3. There are a lot of things I want to say on this thread, but I just don't have the time. But here are a few quick notes. I agree about asymmetry between Marxism and Capitalism. But notice that what is called capitalism these days is not capitalism. It's crony corporatism. The pharmaceutical cartel, for example, is called capitalism, but it is a monopoly racket protected by government-enforced privilege against newcomers and often funded by the government. Ayn Rand said somewhere that any compromise between good and evil only benefits evil. Good has nothing to gain from evil.
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  4. It is a disadvantage to tolerate the left in public. We place too much value on freedom of speech. It's like some religious dogma we have. No, sometimes speech needs regulation. Let's recognize that when a leftist advocates for socializing property, he's initiating a process of force against private property holders. Left unchecked, we run the risk of losing everything to the left simply because we tolerate them and the loot-thirsty mob that gathers behind them. It's like listening to a psycho rant about how he's going to rape a woman, and we do nothing about it. Then his psycho friends a
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  5. With the metaphysical threats of China, the wuflu attack on western civilization, the rise of a brazen global oligarchy, and totalitarian ideas like the Great Reset, and the recent elections and kangaroo impeachments... I’m starting to feel like Ayn Rand’s overwhelming focus on altruism was slightly misguided, in the sense that it is not the evil (out there) as such, it is a misdirection and a weapon used by the naked will to power and domination by the tyrannically inclined, targeting our weaknesses to obtain obedience. But that will to power the tyrannical powers of the psyche seem now
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  6. Another reason to look at the goings on around the Q Continuum is to understand the psychology of others, since we do, after all, live in a society where both the leadership and voters have an impact on our direct lives, now, via lockdowns and the economy, restricting our freedom of speech and threatening worse. Conversely, it's worth it to observe the religious beliefs of those in opposition to those forces, to see what keeps them ticking, and to compare and contrast to O'ism. After all, Rand did write, in "What Can One Do?", that while it wouldn't be good to join with conservatives or libert
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  7. "Don't worry; we'll pick up the slack." It's...strange. When Trump first ran, I was not a fan of his, for a few reasons. But then I saw the over-reactions from others turn into TDS. I started to see through the lies. THEN, I saw MY image of Trump change from Trump the sleazy casino magnet and celebrity apprentice shit-stirrer to Trump the American, the fighter, the patriot, etc. And today, when I heard that he had gone to Walter Reed, my heart dropped. Up until recently, I was concerned about the government protecting the citizens during the riots, etc; Now, I want to protect Trump. I thoug
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  8. The January 6 incursion into the Capitol building wasn’t "an act of insurrection," and I wouldn’t even call the actions of the infiltrators who did such damage as was done a "riot." Planned theatrics. The incursion was: 1. a trap for the genuine Trump supporters who entered the building with the permission of the guards; 2. a ploy to derail consideration of objections to electoral slates; 3. a set-up for Pelosi to bring impeachment charges against Trump. Ellen
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  9. Karen er... Carol, What do you think about the manly man and socialist good-old-boy with his CNN badge of distinction who wants to get into his date's panties so much, he brags to her about how CNN is running a phony propaganda campaign to take out Gaetz? Is your idea of the opposite of Matt Gaetz--specifically an amoral fratboy type with dead, mean eyes and the glee in getting noticed, no matter for what., in other words, an entitled idiot, and not too bright a one at that--our formidable CNN dork who tried to brag his way into the sack with his project Veritas date about what
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  10. Objectivist leaders: Something has gone wrong when some Objectivist leaders accept the idea of supposed free trade that includes trade with tyrants, for example, trade with Kantians, Pragmatists, Muslim Iran, or Communist China. There is no free trade with tyrants which operate according to the principle of force and not by the principle of individual rights. Free trade, individual rights, and private property are not possible in dealings with tyrannical individuals or governments. Perhaps not even possible with Objectivist leaders who endorse trade with tyrants or advocates of
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  11. A big difference between elitists doing crud in other countries and their doing it here is the Americans (the real ones) of whom there are still an abundant number in this country's populace. American ingenuity and spirit going against elitist crooks is a whole ‘nuther thing from populaces used to being ruled by "superiors" trying to rebel. Ellen
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  12. The "conspiracy theory advocate" label for people who see it is being ramped up to "domestic terrorist." Ellen
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  13. Glad to hear people of influence or accomplishment are actually open to the ideas discussed here. I understand and respect their privacy. Rand discussed a great many things... she identified single State corruption, a swamp on a small scale... but without an inking of the technology of today could she even have in her wildest dreams thought of such a global elitist oligarchy attempting to enslave the entire world as it is today? Had she ever thought these petty technocrat busy bodies in government, big tech and the media would ever be so bold as to proclaim to all, their ideal tw
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  14. I have literally no idea what the letter who shall not be named is/was/could be/have been, but the spark I refuse to let die is the recognition that so much in the world right now is 'just not right' and that sparks draws up some anger when I feel as if no one else can see It or fails to call it out. That was always the thing that initially drew me to nameless letter the allegory of righteousness , bold righteousness in the face of all this shit.
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  15. You can't let these at war with us folks off the hook with libertarian property rights theory because we are on a de facto war footing. We Are At War. --Brant
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  16. Michael, everyone, Notice, too, the Pence-Ryan email exchange linked to from the letter: https://files.constantcontact.com/899f3f04701/106dc3d3-c645-4215-bdd3-addad65bade2.pdf Ellen
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  17. ThatGuy, Since World War II the U.S. has been in a new phase of degradation to which Rand was pretty much oblivious. Socialism vs. Capitalism, Left vs. Right, Liberal vs. Conservative is now just entertainment, like television wrestling, hiding venal, thieving, murdering Mafia-like corruption. It makes “taxing the rich” or “robbing Peter to pay Paul” look good. I wrote “pretty much” because once in a while Rand would acknowledge that something more sinister than differences in political philosophy was going on. The only example I can think of at the moment is when, in an essay, s
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  18. Maybe Trump will pardon Assange on Christmas Day. Ellen
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  19. I like Lin Wood a lot. "Onward, Christian soldiers...." I don’t care a damn that he's a flaming Christian. I like his fervor and resoluteness and direct on-pointedness. And, fact is, a high percentage of the core Americans who support Trump and who won’t put up with the fraud or accept a "Great Reset" American future are Christians. Ellen
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  20. Its a good attitude to have. Its something I'd tell my son. Mannerisms in my written way of communicating are different than my internal methodologies. When the score has me down to my opponent I haven't lost. Not while I can mount an offense. Do I deal with my morale? Of course. Its part of regaining an edge. What you said "I am so pissed at them I could spit." resonates. It is personal. Though making others targets of my animosity doesn't improve my chances of winning anything. I have so little mental space to waste on an outcome, on an occupation for feeling as if I've gained trac
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  21. Have you guys been watching the press trying to frame President Trump with the white supremacy thing? Let's start with the end first, then look at the idiot press. Here is just one compilation among many out there where Trump has disavowed white supremacy, including in the debate two days ago. Also, look at Chris Wallace in the 2016 election. Note that this video is impossible to find doing a simple YouTube search. YouTube and others do not want you to see this. So you can only find it on posts of others who embed it. Compare that to Chris Wallace asking th
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  22. I didn’t watch the video. As you know, I rarely watch videos. I'll take your word for it that the material is choke-upping. What I signed on to comment about was Trump's "Thank you, I will never let you down!" He means it. He's fully out to give his all for decent Americans. I think it's the deep sincerity of his commitment which is why the leftists keep accusing him of being a liar. I think that they sense that he means it and the sincerity terrifies them. You went on to add the material after "btw" while I was signing in. I don't know, Michael, about your stateme
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  23. The way I see it, if that certain someone was mocking me with a “haha” I was doing something right...
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  24. Deanna, I agree with the random video part. But how about a steady stream of videos glorifying Satanism and porn? That is in the culture. Haven't you noticed? Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion merely put a super-production on one. There was nothing random about it. (As I mentioned when I talked about tapping into the cultural zeitgeist.) Besides, why is this either-or? Does criticizing a video for potential damage make a claim that bad relationships are not a factor? Let me see. Hmmm... No. It doesn't. I agree with this, but with qualification
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  25. The Smithsonian Promotes Pure Toxic Racism You have to see this to believe it. It's almost out of an Ayn Rand novel. At least this boneheaded spiteful chapter in The Smithsonian is getting bashed by lots and lots of people. Here's an article that gives an overview: Byron York's Daily Memo: 'Whiteness' and the National Museum of African American History and Culture The chart mentioned in the last paragraph is the cause of the storm. Before I show it, The Smithsonian's site took it down. Here is the webpage where it used to be. Whiteness Now here is
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  26. Wow, that one seventeen year old basement troglodyte really got under Twatter's skin. All four hundred pounds of ze.
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  27. Frankly I think we have entertained the irrational and fear-frozen among us for way too long. It is time to take life back. No more forced face diapers and closed schools. The frightened can stay indoors indefinitely if they want, but they have no right to shut the rest of our lives down and we are not going to take it much longer.
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  28. Lo and behold, just days after Berman's being taken out, SDNY's case against Jeffrey Epstein's child victim procurer Ghislaine Maxwell finally proceeds after having been sat on for years. https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/02/epstein-confidante-maxwell-arrested-in-new-hampshire/
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  29. And Gates. And WHO. And everyone else involved in the scheme. I'm very angry about the deaths from this "dastardly plot." I'm thinking of those who died as war casualties. Ellen
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  30. The pandemics in 1957 and then again in 1968 killed roughly 100k Americans each, they were influenza viruses , I don't know of any societal wide reactions that match this one. Did we flatten a curve ? Or do curves just do what curves do? It doesn't seem like lockdowns did much other than economic damage. I mean pandemics suck , but yeah they suck. Hurricanes suck too . ? It's starting to really feel like we've been played , no ?
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  31. Classic Objectivism absolutely opposes anti-trust. What wasn't addressed back then was State charted, created, sponsored corporations. There are 50 States. Where is there the room for public corporations in the ideologic rubric of libertarianism/Objectivism or in Randianism, if you will? Basically corporations are facets of economic fascism written large by today's social media. Hit them with anti-trust as a necessary stopgap. --Brant
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  32. The single greatest advance in medicine was the germ theory of disease. It's precursor was smallpox vaccination. There is no handling flu with vaccine, just the pretense, but the pretense is a horse to ride into good doing the world. I'd never get a flu shot. The virus mutates too much too quickly. Money is a road to power. These money men, ironically, are being controlled and used by people who live in all ways high on the hogs. They aren't after a virus, but you and me through nation state destruction and globalization. Above all they must all belong to the same frat
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  33. In the '80s, probably earlier and possibly still today, there was the idea of reptile people as a part of New Age lore. I knew some women who claimed to have had sex (in a kind of visionary space) with reptile creatures. —- Regarding Kamala Harris, I've called her a Snake person. Not meant literally. Characterologically. Ellen
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  34. S, Have you lived outside the US? I lived in Brazil for 32 years. The reason I mention this is because I don't think many people here in the US have a correct feeling of what life was like in Germany during Hitler's rise to power. The biggest problem was massive inflation. There was inflation so high, there were times people received their payments in shopping bags full of money. And they had to spend it by the end of the day before it devalued. I felt something like this in Brazil when there was about 60-80% inflation per month in the last months of Presidente Sarney's ter
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  35. Sounds like the plot of Emergency! Season 1 Episode 5 (Dealer's Wild) from 1972.
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  36. If one is going to stage a coup like a stolen election or military takeover, one needs a strong man or woman to lead the aftermath to consolidate power. The Biden impostors did stage a coup and pulled it off, but Biden is not a strong man and his gang live in a bubble. They constantly show they are scared to death. The following article at Gateway Pundit shows what this looks like and why the impostors are terrified. It’s Clear – Since the 2020 Election – Joe Biden and His Gang Are Scared to Death of Facing the American People The article didn't mention it, but a month afte
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  37. The idiot host didn't know he was on full display naked. Banned in Boston is now banned in the United States but it still doesn't work. --Brant oh, the powers that be would have chopped their heads off; it's all about power
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  38. "BLM Activist Arrested For Siege on U.S. Capitol" WASHINGTON, D.C. – A Utah man was charged today in federal court in the District of Columbia in connection with the riots at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021. John Earle Sullivan, a Black Lives Matter Activist and anti-Trumper, was charged by complaint with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and one count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their o
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  39. Dockets dockets dockets... Isn't it funny how the courts do these things according to their own schedules based on parties fulfilling the courts' criteria and not according to what people think? Michael
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  40. I suppose I have to talk about Michigan. The sensationalist part is not the most important, however only at a human interest level. The important part will be the parts that will result in certifying a Trump win. 1. Two of the four Wayne County canvass board members, William Hartman and Monica Palmer, Republicans, refused to certify the the election results for Wayne County in Michigan (which includes Detroit). See here. There was general celebration on the Trump side because this might throw the election to the state delegates, in which case Trump would win as there is a Republican
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  41. Incidentally, here's a piece of advice for how to consume mainstream news during this time. Whenever you see taunting and gloating and mocking, look away. To the extent you can, don't even let It register. This will trigger fight-flight subconscious reactions even if your conscious ones are the contrary or different. There's no need to waste your mental energy on this since there is nothing of substance in it. If there is a fact being stated, make sure you look for the source of that fact. If the source is anonymous, even if it is a "fact" you might like, ignore the fact until a sour
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  42. From the Washington Examiner: Rudy Giuliani: Trump campaign has enough evidence to change Pennsylvania election results Based on the evidence alone that Rudy laid out to Maria Bartiromo, it's going to be hard for any court to ignore it and have a chance of not being overturned. Here's the video: Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo (clip) A few important points. 1. Even though in the quotes in the article, only a few numbers were quoted, Rudy mentioned on camera large numbers, enough to put Pennsylvania for a Trump win. He said the numbers for les
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  43. I'm just putting this up because I like the title. Greg Kelly: "Everything You're Seeing Tonight is an Illusion - The "President-Elect" Is an Illusion" The fake news media has sure felt like an illusion for the longest time. One hoax after another and everyone grandstanding. And me thinking: WTF? This reminds me of Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. I'm going from memory so this may not be exact. I think even younger people today know what a cat's cradle is. In case anyone doesn't, it's a children's pastime where twine is laced through fingers un
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  44. A big, majorly important and urgent step in fucking China is to cease relying on China for the production of the West's antibiotics. What China could do to us by withholding supply is mega-horrifying to think of. Ellen
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  45. Well, the guy is in pieces sure, but can you really say murderer? That lumps in a justified hacking death , categorical dissonance? and how big is the handle, could be a hatchet ? ( some people call it a sling blade , hmmm)
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  46. Some peaceful protesters in Oakland. California last Wednesday. They were lovingly screeching and yelling, "Death to America!" in call and response along with peacefully destroying property. For those who keep trying to find a deeper meaning and excuse the excesses of zeal, they're not hiding what they want. And don't forget, it doesn't matter what YOU think. In terms of what they will do if unimpeded, it only matters to them what THEY think. Now look at reality, not just the story in your head. They are telling you to your face: America--to them--means you. Your
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  47. Agreed. The cops were trying to be reasonable with Floyd and not go out of their way to do violence. Chauvin's carelessness is reprehensible, and so, too, were the officers standing by. Long before Floyd stopped moving and grumbling they should have checked his condition and rendered aid. They were so ignorant they didn't even realize he was no longer moving or even breathing--and still pressing down on his neck. It didn't even occur to Chauvin that he was pressing down on an unconscious person, let alone a dead one. In a similar situation many years ago, I was working security o
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  48. Trump, Flynn and others on the team have confirmed their affiliation with Q hundreds of times in hundreds of ways. It is no longer a question.
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  49. Ed, Jon is why We can’t have nice things, like..members that talk more than they do. Nice to see you!
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  50. Might as well do to them now. If they get back in power they'll do it to us regardless. --Brant
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