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  1. Some further comment after Ellen's post ... Quoting caroljane: “... it [a vaccination ID] illustrates my point. A public health measure is not viewed [by those who object to this?] as what it is, a measure to limit the initiation of force by citizens upon each other, but as – well, what? An infringement on your sacred right to get sick, and make others sick?” The ending is sarcastic and “initiation of force” is designed to push Objectivists’ buttons. The mask orders, “lockdowns” of healthy people, limiting businesses, closing businesses, forbidding public assembly, etc. have to
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  2. I have often thought of the fundamental asymmetry between Marxist collectivists and classical liberals / radical Capitalism. The former relies on and is rooted in proactive force and cannot countenance the latter in any way, but instead must overthrow it, eradicate it. There can be no harmony with the latter's existence. The latter is pacifist like nothing the hippies would ever have dreamed up, with non-initiation of force at its base. Rather than outlawing collectivism as such (while of course outlawing collectivist use of force) the latter is perfectly harmonious with any
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  3. There are a lot of things I want to say on this thread, but I just don't have the time. But here are a few quick notes. I agree about asymmetry between Marxism and Capitalism. But notice that what is called capitalism these days is not capitalism. It's crony corporatism. The pharmaceutical cartel, for example, is called capitalism, but it is a monopoly racket protected by government-enforced privilege against newcomers and often funded by the government. Ayn Rand said somewhere that any compromise between good and evil only benefits evil. Good has nothing to gain from evil.
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  4. It is a disadvantage to tolerate the left in public. We place too much value on freedom of speech. It's like some religious dogma we have. No, sometimes speech needs regulation. Let's recognize that when a leftist advocates for socializing property, he's initiating a process of force against private property holders. Left unchecked, we run the risk of losing everything to the left simply because we tolerate them and the loot-thirsty mob that gathers behind them. It's like listening to a psycho rant about how he's going to rape a woman, and we do nothing about it. Then his psycho friends a
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  5. With the metaphysical threats of China, the wuflu attack on western civilization, the rise of a brazen global oligarchy, and totalitarian ideas like the Great Reset, and the recent elections and kangaroo impeachments... I’m starting to feel like Ayn Rand’s overwhelming focus on altruism was slightly misguided, in the sense that it is not the evil (out there) as such, it is a misdirection and a weapon used by the naked will to power and domination by the tyrannically inclined, targeting our weaknesses to obtain obedience. But that will to power the tyrannical powers of the psyche seem now
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  6. Another reason to look at the goings on around the Q Continuum is to understand the psychology of others, since we do, after all, live in a society where both the leadership and voters have an impact on our direct lives, now, via lockdowns and the economy, restricting our freedom of speech and threatening worse. Conversely, it's worth it to observe the religious beliefs of those in opposition to those forces, to see what keeps them ticking, and to compare and contrast to O'ism. After all, Rand did write, in "What Can One Do?", that while it wouldn't be good to join with conservatives or libert
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  7. "Don't worry; we'll pick up the slack." It's...strange. When Trump first ran, I was not a fan of his, for a few reasons. But then I saw the over-reactions from others turn into TDS. I started to see through the lies. THEN, I saw MY image of Trump change from Trump the sleazy casino magnet and celebrity apprentice shit-stirrer to Trump the American, the fighter, the patriot, etc. And today, when I heard that he had gone to Walter Reed, my heart dropped. Up until recently, I was concerned about the government protecting the citizens during the riots, etc; Now, I want to protect Trump. I thoug
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  8. Objectivist leaders: Something has gone wrong when some Objectivist leaders accept the idea of supposed free trade that includes trade with tyrants, for example, trade with Kantians, Pragmatists, Muslim Iran, or Communist China. There is no free trade with tyrants which operate according to the principle of force and not by the principle of individual rights. Free trade, individual rights, and private property are not possible in dealings with tyrannical individuals or governments. Perhaps not even possible with Objectivist leaders who endorse trade with tyrants or advocates of
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  9. A big difference between elitists doing crud in other countries and their doing it here is the Americans (the real ones) of whom there are still an abundant number in this country's populace. American ingenuity and spirit going against elitist crooks is a whole ‘nuther thing from populaces used to being ruled by "superiors" trying to rebel. Ellen
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  10. The "conspiracy theory advocate" label for people who see it is being ramped up to "domestic terrorist." Ellen
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  11. Glad to hear people of influence or accomplishment are actually open to the ideas discussed here. I understand and respect their privacy. Rand discussed a great many things... she identified single State corruption, a swamp on a small scale... but without an inking of the technology of today could she even have in her wildest dreams thought of such a global elitist oligarchy attempting to enslave the entire world as it is today? Had she ever thought these petty technocrat busy bodies in government, big tech and the media would ever be so bold as to proclaim to all, their ideal tw
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  12. I have literally no idea what the letter who shall not be named is/was/could be/have been, but the spark I refuse to let die is the recognition that so much in the world right now is 'just not right' and that sparks draws up some anger when I feel as if no one else can see It or fails to call it out. That was always the thing that initially drew me to nameless letter the allegory of righteousness , bold righteousness in the face of all this shit.
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  13. You can't let these at war with us folks off the hook with libertarian property rights theory because we are on a de facto war footing. We Are At War. --Brant
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  14. Michael, everyone, Notice, too, the Pence-Ryan email exchange linked to from the letter: https://files.constantcontact.com/899f3f04701/106dc3d3-c645-4215-bdd3-addad65bade2.pdf Ellen
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  15. ThatGuy, Since World War II the U.S. has been in a new phase of degradation to which Rand was pretty much oblivious. Socialism vs. Capitalism, Left vs. Right, Liberal vs. Conservative is now just entertainment, like television wrestling, hiding venal, thieving, murdering Mafia-like corruption. It makes “taxing the rich” or “robbing Peter to pay Paul” look good. I wrote “pretty much” because once in a while Rand would acknowledge that something more sinister than differences in political philosophy was going on. The only example I can think of at the moment is when, in an essay, s
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  16. Maybe Trump will pardon Assange on Christmas Day. Ellen
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  17. I like Lin Wood a lot. "Onward, Christian soldiers...." I don’t care a damn that he's a flaming Christian. I like his fervor and resoluteness and direct on-pointedness. And, fact is, a high percentage of the core Americans who support Trump and who won’t put up with the fraud or accept a "Great Reset" American future are Christians. Ellen
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  18. Its a good attitude to have. Its something I'd tell my son. Mannerisms in my written way of communicating are different than my internal methodologies. When the score has me down to my opponent I haven't lost. Not while I can mount an offense. Do I deal with my morale? Of course. Its part of regaining an edge. What you said "I am so pissed at them I could spit." resonates. It is personal. Though making others targets of my animosity doesn't improve my chances of winning anything. I have so little mental space to waste on an outcome, on an occupation for feeling as if I've gained trac
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  19. Have you guys been watching the press trying to frame President Trump with the white supremacy thing? Let's start with the end first, then look at the idiot press. Here is just one compilation among many out there where Trump has disavowed white supremacy, including in the debate two days ago. Also, look at Chris Wallace in the 2016 election. Note that this video is impossible to find doing a simple YouTube search. YouTube and others do not want you to see this. So you can only find it on posts of others who embed it. Compare that to Chris Wallace asking th
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  20. I didn’t watch the video. As you know, I rarely watch videos. I'll take your word for it that the material is choke-upping. What I signed on to comment about was Trump's "Thank you, I will never let you down!" He means it. He's fully out to give his all for decent Americans. I think it's the deep sincerity of his commitment which is why the leftists keep accusing him of being a liar. I think that they sense that he means it and the sincerity terrifies them. You went on to add the material after "btw" while I was signing in. I don't know, Michael, about your stateme
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  21. The way I see it, if that certain someone was mocking me with a “haha” I was doing something right...
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  22. Deanna, I agree with the random video part. But how about a steady stream of videos glorifying Satanism and porn? That is in the culture. Haven't you noticed? Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion merely put a super-production on one. There was nothing random about it. (As I mentioned when I talked about tapping into the cultural zeitgeist.) Besides, why is this either-or? Does criticizing a video for potential damage make a claim that bad relationships are not a factor? Let me see. Hmmm... No. It doesn't. I agree with this, but with qualification
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  23. The Smithsonian Promotes Pure Toxic Racism You have to see this to believe it. It's almost out of an Ayn Rand novel. At least this boneheaded spiteful chapter in The Smithsonian is getting bashed by lots and lots of people. Here's an article that gives an overview: Byron York's Daily Memo: 'Whiteness' and the National Museum of African American History and Culture The chart mentioned in the last paragraph is the cause of the storm. Before I show it, The Smithsonian's site took it down. Here is the webpage where it used to be. Whiteness Now here is
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  24. Wow, that one seventeen year old basement troglodyte really got under Twatter's skin. All four hundred pounds of ze.
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  25. Frankly I think we have entertained the irrational and fear-frozen among us for way too long. It is time to take life back. No more forced face diapers and closed schools. The frightened can stay indoors indefinitely if they want, but they have no right to shut the rest of our lives down and we are not going to take it much longer.
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  26. Lo and behold, just days after Berman's being taken out, SDNY's case against Jeffrey Epstein's child victim procurer Ghislaine Maxwell finally proceeds after having been sat on for years. https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/02/epstein-confidante-maxwell-arrested-in-new-hampshire/
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  27. And Gates. And WHO. And everyone else involved in the scheme. I'm very angry about the deaths from this "dastardly plot." I'm thinking of those who died as war casualties. Ellen
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  28. The pandemics in 1957 and then again in 1968 killed roughly 100k Americans each, they were influenza viruses , I don't know of any societal wide reactions that match this one. Did we flatten a curve ? Or do curves just do what curves do? It doesn't seem like lockdowns did much other than economic damage. I mean pandemics suck , but yeah they suck. Hurricanes suck too . ? It's starting to really feel like we've been played , no ?
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  29. Classic Objectivism absolutely opposes anti-trust. What wasn't addressed back then was State charted, created, sponsored corporations. There are 50 States. Where is there the room for public corporations in the ideologic rubric of libertarianism/Objectivism or in Randianism, if you will? Basically corporations are facets of economic fascism written large by today's social media. Hit them with anti-trust as a necessary stopgap. --Brant
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  30. The single greatest advance in medicine was the germ theory of disease. It's precursor was smallpox vaccination. There is no handling flu with vaccine, just the pretense, but the pretense is a horse to ride into good doing the world. I'd never get a flu shot. The virus mutates too much too quickly. Money is a road to power. These money men, ironically, are being controlled and used by people who live in all ways high on the hogs. They aren't after a virus, but you and me through nation state destruction and globalization. Above all they must all belong to the same frat
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  31. Has anyone here read NB's novel Layers? It was published in July 2020. I had heard he had written and completed at least one novel and that it had been submitted to publishers about 15 years ago. But for some reason, it was never published. I bought the Kindle version of Layers a couple of months ago and am in the middle of reading it for the second time. I didn't know it had been published until I did a search on Nathaniel Branden books on Amazon. The book has not been mentioned on any of NB's Facebook pages. It's not even listed in the store on nathanielbranden.com I really like the bo
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  32. I was struck by that one, too, and was going to post it when I got a chance. The Georgia "Old Boys" network looks quite institutionalized. In the same vein, Lin Wood posted in full the following mini-speech from a Telegram account called "Narrative Reframes." It looks like Bobby Piton is the author, but I’m not sure if Piton is simply being credited for the mathematical detail. There are many long posts on the "Narrative Reframes" account. I've only had time so far to do a rapid scroll through the material. link to the repost on Lin's Telegram account link to the o
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  33. On the "Deep State Unraveling" thread, I mentioned Rand's open letter, "To All Innocent Fifth Columnists", in regards to communist "infiltration from within", and how it related to the Q phenomenon, which is largely meant to wake people up to the same threat. As I was rereading her words, today, I found a lot of relevance to what we're going through, now. But what struck me most was her calling out the "doomers" who were ready to throw in the towel too soon, even back then. She was URGING them to get off their asses, to NOT be pacified, while calling on people to have...wait for it...FAITH, w
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  34. Your assumption seems to be his third party wouldn't cleave members from the Democrat Party. Class warfare is coming: producers vs the mouchers. For our purposes a moucher is any one employed by government sitting behind a desk. --Brant
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  35. Ellen, That could only happen after he leaves office. I doubt the Senate under McConnell will even schedule a trial. And the Senate can't convict President Trump if he is not in office. The purpose of the trial is to decide if he should stay in office or to remove him. According to Dershowitz, there is no such thing as an impeachment trial solely to strip a former president of his political rights. There is a problem with the impeachment, though. Once again, according to Dershowitz, President Trump's speech that the Dems are trying to hold up as a smoking gun is protected by the Cons
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  36. Naturalborncitizen.wordpress com/2021 It's your job to add the prefix to make the link work. --Brant
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  37. Andrew McCarthy at National Review has a pretty blistering piece up about the merits of the State of Texas lawsuit. He claims that the project is doomed to fail because the States lack standing, and that they also may have waited too long (which is undoubtedly true; whether that matters or not in the litigation is a separate question). In 2019, McCarthy wrote a pretty pro Trump book about the D playbook in creating the Russian collusion narrative. He is generally pretty solid on legal issues, imo. Probably worth bearing in mind before labeling McCarthy just another Republican Squish
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  38. Just to add more info on the stuff piling up: Here are 16 of them. Man, this is becoming a veritable fad at the state level. Michael
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  39. Quoting a statement from the Marshall Report excerpt TG provided - emphasis added: "Sidney is experienced and ready to do whatever it takes to stop the reset of America to a global government." Quoting, with alteration, a line from "They Might Be Giants": "I hope the good guys win!!!" Ellen
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  40. From the Washington Examiner: Rudy Giuliani: Trump campaign has enough evidence to change Pennsylvania election results Based on the evidence alone that Rudy laid out to Maria Bartiromo, it's going to be hard for any court to ignore it and have a chance of not being overturned. Here's the video: Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo (clip) A few important points. 1. Even though in the quotes in the article, only a few numbers were quoted, Rudy mentioned on camera large numbers, enough to put Pennsylvania for a Trump win. He said the numbers for les
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  41. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Aye, Aye Sir Guy! I think government under anyone but President Trump will sound more like the Brits in the House of Parliament. I hope our legislature doesn't dissolve into "Boo, hiss, liar!" So bring on those supervised recounts.
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  42. Now look at the story. It changed since that first low-level power grab didn't work. NYT, Go fuck yourself anyway. Michael
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  43. With all those BLM and Antifa people screaming and inciting riots right now, President Trump just tweeted this. What a contrast. I got choked up watching it. Then I wondered who this guy was and why he made this video. So I looked. He made this video as a thank you to Tim Pool, of all things. He said Tim "unlocked" him. His name is Gary Lamb. He put this video up two days ago on YouTube. It already has over 430 thousand views. And after watching the full thing there on YouTube, I got even more choked up than before. btw - Lots of anti-Trump id
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  44. Incidentally, during the lead-up phase to voting day, has anyone noticed that I rarely talk about the political opinions of anti-Trump luminaries in the Objectivist subcommunity? I just noticed this myself and wondered why. Then it hit me. Their opinions are irrelevant to the election. If there were something they say or do that would affect voting, I would be agreeing with them or rebutting them, but I forgot they existed when I have thought about the election. I'm not ignoring them. I literally forgot they existed. Seriously. Michael
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  45. In this age of alone togetherness a young adult on a blind date is like being a paid volunteer in some kind of orchestrated chaos centered around awkward intimacies and chance meetings in order to placate demands placed by social norms. This could not have been highlighted more than by the stark contrast of the paper tablecloth and plastic silverware juxtaposed along side the leaded crystal stemless goblets of the restaurant. Increasingly few were the times Lisbeth didn't feel the dull stab of vain embarrassment when her glance would linger on her pretty ugly fingers , and she would be forced
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  46. Take a break with Ladyva. Damm, she's good.
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  47. Agreed. The cops were trying to be reasonable with Floyd and not go out of their way to do violence. Chauvin's carelessness is reprehensible, and so, too, were the officers standing by. Long before Floyd stopped moving and grumbling they should have checked his condition and rendered aid. They were so ignorant they didn't even realize he was no longer moving or even breathing--and still pressing down on his neck. It didn't even occur to Chauvin that he was pressing down on an unconscious person, let alone a dead one. In a similar situation many years ago, I was working security o
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  48. Ellen, I actually spray my masks down with alcohol after I come back home (btw - this thing is awesome if you ever need something like that). And after about 3 or 4 uses, a mask goes into the dirty laundry. I used to play trombone, so I know all about gunk buildup. As to my past drug and alcohol abuses, I'm probably more scarred than weakened by now due to years of mostly healthy living, with the exception of not getting enough exercise. (I keep promising myself, but I'm not the most reliable fulfiller of promises to myself. ) And the exception of maybe eating more crap thes
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  49. Dr. Death out there slaying the false narrative that fewer corpses is somehow good.
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