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  1. Some further comment after Ellen's post ... Quoting caroljane: “... it [a vaccination ID] illustrates my point. A public health measure is not viewed [by those who object to this?] as what it is, a measure to limit the initiation of force by citizens upon each other, but as – well, what? An infringement on your sacred right to get sick, and make others sick?” The ending is sarcastic and “initiation of force” is designed to push Objectivists’ buttons. The mask orders, “lockdowns” of healthy people, limiting businesses, closing businesses, forbidding public assembly, etc. have to do with naked power, nothing to do with public health – where is the science as they say – and neither does a vaccination ID. (It would be a federally issued ID that would track your medical history and be required to use the post office, fly, eventually to use a bank, etc.) The last is monstrous even if the Pfizer’s experimental vaccine (which isn’t a vaccine) were proven safe, and it hasn’t been. It is, as I just said, experimental (link to abridged talk by Simone Gold). Let’s get real. Even without treatment a healthy and non-decrepit person’s chance of getting very sick from Covid-19 is near zero. With treatment – and there are several inexpensive ones available – it is inconsequential Life is inherently, metaphysically, risky. You engage in reasonable precautions to minimize risk. What has been going on is not reasonable precautions but a naked power grab by totalitarians. Neo-communists would be a fitting label too.
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  2. I have often thought of the fundamental asymmetry between Marxist collectivists and classical liberals / radical Capitalism. The former relies on and is rooted in proactive force and cannot countenance the latter in any way, but instead must overthrow it, eradicate it. There can be no harmony with the latter's existence. The latter is pacifist like nothing the hippies would ever have dreamed up, with non-initiation of force at its base. Rather than outlawing collectivism as such (while of course outlawing collectivist use of force) the latter is perfectly harmonious with any voluntary collective. The one leaves no one be, even those who would choose to be left alone. The latter leaves everyone alone and equally leaves them free to choose to live in whatever level of collective promiscuity they wish. The Liberal (Classical) has no place in the Leftist's world view, whereas the Leftist's would have a place in the Liberal's world, only their use of force would be impermissible. This stark contrast, this asymmetry I find fascinating and inspiring, it may be the greatest example of the benevolence of freedom as a foil in the face of naked tyranny and yet it get's little to no attention. Perhaps there are so many who only "group think", who almost always and ever consider themselves, society and government only in terms of "we" (and "them"), and never think of themselves, their lives, and their freedom's in terms of "I" or "me". There is a great mass of lost souls, adult children, so mortally terrified of solitude and independence, ... that they must annihilate any solitary minded person or any ideas of individual liberty. Perhaps those who would be left free and would leave others also to be free are at a disadvantage... or perhaps not? I suppose as long as they are not naive to the naked will to power which possesses the lost cravens who seek oblivion for all, liberty minded persons can survive. But we must be vigilant. Anyway. Why is this asymmetry not more directly spoken of? Why don't Freedom lovers tell the middle-left (non violent progressives), you could organize yourselves in our world, you just cant use guns to threaten us, or anyone?
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  3. There are a lot of things I want to say on this thread, but I just don't have the time. But here are a few quick notes. I agree about asymmetry between Marxism and Capitalism. But notice that what is called capitalism these days is not capitalism. It's crony corporatism. The pharmaceutical cartel, for example, is called capitalism, but it is a monopoly racket protected by government-enforced privilege against newcomers and often funded by the government. Ayn Rand said somewhere that any compromise between good and evil only benefits evil. Good has nothing to gain from evil. I am not in favor of regulating free speech. I don't like top-down government dispensers of rights. But I am in favor of this: This part I really agree with. Not even the government is required to provide a platform for those who threaten it and preach its destruction. Let such people do that at their own places. Michael
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  4. It is a disadvantage to tolerate the left in public. We place too much value on freedom of speech. It's like some religious dogma we have. No, sometimes speech needs regulation. Let's recognize that when a leftist advocates for socializing property, he's initiating a process of force against private property holders. Left unchecked, we run the risk of losing everything to the left simply because we tolerate them and the loot-thirsty mob that gathers behind them. It's like listening to a psycho rant about how he's going to rape a woman, and we do nothing about it. Then his psycho friends arrive and they all agree, "Yeah, let's gang rape her!" We just walk away and go home and watch TV. On the news later we find out that she was raped by that gang. The difference is that the left rapes people legally with the institutions of government power. Our tolerance of evil speakers is essentially the same, but it seems okay in the case of democratic socialists because they want to be evil with the permission of voters. This is why we at minimum need to ban socialists from the government. I would also ban them from speaking on public property. Let them buy private property and speak there, but if they threaten the government they need to be stopped. Unfortunately we have not banned them, and now they are terrorizing citizens and embedding themselves in our government.
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  5. With the metaphysical threats of China, the wuflu attack on western civilization, the rise of a brazen global oligarchy, and totalitarian ideas like the Great Reset, and the recent elections and kangaroo impeachments... I’m starting to feel like Ayn Rand’s overwhelming focus on altruism was slightly misguided, in the sense that it is not the evil (out there) as such, it is a misdirection and a weapon used by the naked will to power and domination by the tyrannically inclined, targeting our weaknesses to obtain obedience. But that will to power the tyrannical powers of the psyche seem now to have been unleashed in the powerful and in the sheeple. The absolute monarch, the oligarchs, the totalitarian they do not hold altruism or community or equality as principles, but as tools of control. When there are few evil doers we protect ourselves from the ideas they try to use against us, but once the evil doers become prevalent or the majority we few must protect ourselves from them not just their ideas. The primary external evil is no longer the internal moral failing of the individual, even though it may have been its primary agitator and may have derived its primary power from it in the form of a population who has fallen to and the joined the ranks of the enemies of freedom. We see the will to power using against us everything we hold dear, peace, harmony, family, our own sense of empathy and benevolence both as threat and as alms. Granted, Ayn Rand knew of these dynamics and warned us all that this might happen, but the overwhelming focus of warnings against altruism seem out of balance now. That was primarily a preventative, and not enough people listened. In her lifetime perhaps it was best to try to stem the philosophical tide toward oblivion, to warn the culture running for the edge of the cliff, but now that it or a large part has careened over, what message or warning or exhortation can be made to those few sane left, perhaps clinging to the edge of the cliff and straining with the dark insane evil mass of suffering still dangling from their feel by some sharp claw, what kind of advice can be given to them who still wish to save themselves? I begin to feel that a philosophical rejection of Altruism is insufficient now that what it focused on to avoid has come to pass... the power hungry disdain all such ideas, the masses form a new mob of the power hungry, and freedom lovers have no fight with their own ideas as they do with existential threats to their freedoms, their values, their very lives. philosophy perhaps has run its course? sigh Just starting to feel something...
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  6. Another reason to look at the goings on around the Q Continuum is to understand the psychology of others, since we do, after all, live in a society where both the leadership and voters have an impact on our direct lives, now, via lockdowns and the economy, restricting our freedom of speech and threatening worse. Conversely, it's worth it to observe the religious beliefs of those in opposition to those forces, to see what keeps them ticking, and to compare and contrast to O'ism. After all, Rand did write, in "What Can One Do?", that while it wouldn't be good to join with conservatives or libertarians, we may have to join "ad hoc committees" towards a single or multiple purposes, but without letting any one's ideals dominate to the extent that common goal is rendered moot. But still, in order to know how to work together, there needs to be an understanding of the beliefs of those "strange bedfellows..." So, here's an example: Former Secretary Pompeo, on his personal Twitter account, just tweeted out Hebrews 11-1: Hebrews 11:1, KJV: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." On the surface, at face value, it's just a bible verse about faith and hope in times of uncertainty. (Though I could go on, I guess, to analyze it against the objectivist notion of "faith", bring in Kant, etc...but I have work to do.) But "anons" believe they've found another layer: 11.3 in the Q posts, they now believe, did NOT refer to the election, but to a particular DoD war manual, and 11.3 and 11.1, when written that way, correspond to the section about foreign occupation. They are taking these Q posts and Pompeo tweets as markers. Here's Pompeo's tweet: (Btw...here's another tweet from his former official Twitter account, as shared on Gab, where he refers to the CCP in "Kill brackets", a common Q thing...at the least, it indicates a shared method of communication...) https://gab.com/Limerence/posts/105583972615447286 And here's the anon theory: https://gab.com/mysticphoeniix/posts/105614586717654154 did POMPEO's tweet ref the DoD WAR MANUAL Anonymous 01/24/21 (Sun) 22:10:30 No.12699575 "Did an anon get this part already? Pompeo Hebrews 11.1. 11.1 in the DoD Law of War is the Occupation chapter. 11.1 INTRODUCTION This Chapter addresses military occupation. The GC provides specific rules for the internment of protected persons in occupation, which are addressed in Chapter X. Military occupation is a temporary measure for administering territory under the control of invading forces, and involves a complicated, trilateral set of legal relations between the Occupying Power, the temporarily ousted sovereign authority, and the inhabitants of occupied territory.1" And here's the link to the DoD manual: https://dod.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/DoD Law of War Manual - June 2015 Updated Dec 2016.pdf?ver=2016-12-13-172036-190 Whether Objectivists believe it god, faith, etc, is besides the point. The point is that THEY believe in it, and it intertwines in how they are fighting this fight, and demonstrates how their faith keeps them going in uncertainty. (It may be easy to scoff at government/ military men using religion as a guide, the way Rand mocked Reagan for calling in an astrologer...but then, how many military victories were won throughout history by men who called on a deity to guide them? We can chalk the wins up to strategy, or even luck, but it was their faith that encouraged them to continue.) Contrast that against those who have thrown in the towel with cries of "we're doomed!", and many of those people may even call themselves Objectivist, for that matter... This is not something to be dismissed lightly, or simply mocked away. If you look at concentration camp survivors, many of them had to find not just the strength of will, but employed faith to survive. Viktor Frankel has written about his experience there, for reference. Of course, some of them were just lucky, while others never had a chance, no matter what they believed ,through no fault of their own. More on that, in a moment. And of course, many Jews disavowed god, after that, as well, so fair enough. One could then say, like Jordan Peterson does, that maybe purpose is better than faith, because "a man “He whose life has a why can bear almost any how." That would seem to work WITH the Objectivist philosophy, as Rand had a major belief in purpose. But we can also find examples of faith there, combined with purpose. Talking about the concentration camps, I acknowledged that some survivors were simply lucky. Well, Look at WE THE LIVING. Kira's survival rested on her faith in American, and her purpose to be an engineer. She pushed herself to carry on, to escape, to get to "the promised land." The fact that she didn't, because Russia was "airtight", according to her theme, is besides the point. (But consider, if America falls to communism, will the world then be "airtight", with no America to escape to? Then it becomes a case not of flight, but of fight...and what will we put our faith in, then?) And I think even Rand said something to the effect of America may has well been a fantasy to Russians. But then, Rand herself DID escape. Now, she had help, but she was also "lucky", as were many holocaust survivors, in the sense that it all worked out. But "fortune favors the ready", as they say. And because Rand was "Ready" in mind and spirit, she was able to be "one of the lucky ones." And part of being ready required faith despite uncertainty. The idea was that she saw another way. The difference is that her vision was metaphysically possible, as opposed to say, waiting for heaven, it was earth-oriented. Rand was a Romantic REALIST, after all. But still, she had faith despite uncertainty of being able to get out, faith that it was possible, despite the odds, and she fought to get out with her dying breath. As Barbara Branden liked to quote, "Price no object." To sum up, the people currently at the forefront of this fight are have combined their religion with their military strategies. It's not unprecedented, and despite the feasibility of the religious metaphysical reality, it's their faith that gets them through it through uncertainty. It's not a "blind faith", if only because there is an earthly military practicality to it. The question for Objectivists watching/fighting along with "strange bedfellows": Since O'ists aren't in charge, do we wait for the perfect plan, the John Galt with the best strategy? Or do we work with what we have? I'll leave it with this :To quote Sun Tzu, “Weak leadership can wreck the soundest strategy; forceful execution of even a poor plan can often bring victory.”
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  7. ‘Error in judgement’: CBC Edmonton regrets mannequin’s use in COVID-19 news report NATIONALPOST.COM Reuters fact check: Some online users said use of the mannequin was proof that Alberta ICUs were not busy
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  8. HUGE EXCLUSIVE: New Report Reveals COVID-19 Was a Planned Bioweapon by China’s People’s Liberation Army WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM Guest post by Lawrence Sellin and Anna Chen COVID-19 was a planned bioweapon of China’s People’s Liberation Army. Already in 2005, Colonel Ji-Wei Guo of the People’s Liberation Army’s Southwest Hospital, Third... Start of the article by Sellin and Chen: === Quote "Already in 2005, Colonel Ji-Wei Guo of the People’s Liberation Army’s Southwest Hospital, Third Military Medical University in Chongqing, China described a new type of bioweapon. "Colonel Guo rejected the clumsy, traditional biological weapons that produced mass destruction, ones that: 'depend on microbiology, especially bacteriology, which uses destructive bacteria, viruses, and toxic living bodies obtained directly from the natural world. These weapons are subject to nature, are difficult to control, and have irreversible effects.' "China would use biotechnology to create new forms of designed 'biotechnological weapons' that would be 'controllable' and 'recoverable' for which China had sole possession of the vaccine or antidote. "Such weapons would be highly contagious, but of low lethality and capable of being deployed under 'pre-war' conditions. Although artificially created, the new bioweapons would retain 'plausible deniability,' that is, could be attributed to a disease of natural origin. "Thus, spawned the PLA’s massive joint bioweapon development-vaccine production program, which incorporated China’s universities and their access to international knowledge and skills, particularly those from the United States." === End Quote Please read the rest at the link. Ellen
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  9. Is an insurrection something that is orchastrated by one side and then call in Congress in the middle of the night ( by the same side) to certify the election right as the speaker knew that Sydney Powell was going to go to the courts after documents were served? We are in the midst of a civil war, not just in the US, but world wide.
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  10. NOT "because of Covid", instead because of compelled interventions. Because of - the anti-science, unnecessary, sacrificial, one size for all, policy of lockdowns etc. thrust on everyone in a supposed causation from Covid. What's human-constructed (or -forced) did not 'have to be'. What's metaphysical, a virus, "had to be". I was considering if there isn't some detectable Categorical Imperative behind 1. universal lockdowns and 2. universal vaccinations. A universal law. *Act only according to that maxim by which you can also will that it become a universal law*. I.Kant From one to all. Isn't that maxim what we see going on?
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  11. Actually, some of us - I'm one - can, and I did, have alarm bells ringing loudly immediately upon reading a description of how these mRNA experimental "jabs" (not, properly speaking, vaccines) work. I'd no more willingly comply with the experiment than take up juggling with lit sticks of dynamite for a hobby. The way things are going with results, my immediate "no way, short of at gun point" reaction looks more and more justified. And we haven’t gotten to long-term damage yet, or to what's being done to fetal development. There have been a good number of miscarriages. What will be the results for pregnancies brought to term…?? I think it is terrible to give the mRNA jabs to children. Reckless endangerment of the child's future development. The situation is nothing like protecting a child from deadly or crippling diseases. I'm no way opposed to vaccines against polio, smallpox, rubella, diphtheria…. I had polio, before there was a vaccine. Would that there had been a vaccine and I'd gotten it. I'd have been spared life-long physical troubles which are worsening (post polio). I am not an anti-vaxxer. But: I think that these mRNA things are proving to be a medical catastrophe - along with being a statist's bonanza. Regarding the latter - Tony, I think that you've been doing a really good job of spelling out the difference between rational self-interest and service to the collective. Bravo. Ellen
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  12. I'm a capitalist I like products from companies when they are liable for defects or negligence. I like medical products that are proven safe, not proclaimed. I'd throw all that out of the window if I were afraid fro my life.
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  13. And all those Spring Training games ,Fla keeps looking better and better.
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  14. From a Facebook page, support from Canadian doctors: "A Letter to the Unvaccinated By Dr. Angela Durante, Prof Denis Rancourt, and et al. Ontario Canada Civil Liberties Association August 2021 Open Letter to the global Unvaccinated You are not alone! As of 28 July 2021, 29% of Canadians have not received a COVID-19 vaccine, and an additional 14% have received one shot. In the US and in the European Union, less than half the population is fully vaccinated, and even in Israel, the “world’s lab” according to Pfizer, one third of people remain completely unvaccinated. Politicians and the media have taken a uniform view, scapegoating the unvaccinated for the troubles that have ensued after eighteen months of fearmongering and lockdowns. It’s time to set the record straight. It is entirely reasonable and legitimate to say ‘no’ to insufficiently tested vaccines for which there is no reliable science. You have a right to assert guardianship of your body and to refuse medical treatments if you see fit. You are right to say ‘no’ to a violation of your dignity, your integrity and your bodily autonomy. It is your body, and you have the right to choose. You are right to fight for your children against their mass vaccination in school. You are right to question whether free and informed consent is at all possible under present circumstances. Long-term effects are unknown. Transgenerational effects are unknown. Vaccine-induced deregulation of natural immunity is unknown. Potential harm is unknown as the adverse event reporting is delayed, incomplete and inconsistent between jurisdictions. You are being targeted by mainstream media, government social engineering campaigns, unjust rules and policies, collaborating employers, and the social-media mob. You are being told that you are now the problem and that the world cannot get back to normal unless you get vaccinated. You are being viciously scapegoated by propaganda and pressured by others around you. Remember; there is nothing wrong with you. You are inaccurately accused of being a factory for new SARS-CoV-2 variants, when in fact, according to leading scientists, your natural immune system generates immunity to multiple components of the virus. This will promote your protection against a vast range of viral variants and abrogates further spread to anyone else. You are justified in demanding independent peer-reviewed studies, not funded by multinational pharmaceutical companies. All the peer-reviewed studies of short-term safety and short-term efficacy have been funded, organized, coordinated, and supported by these for-profit corporations; and none of the study data have been made public or available to researchers who don’t work for these companies. You are right to question the preliminary vaccine trial results. The claimed high values of relative efficacy rely on small numbers of tenuously determined “infections.” The studies were also not blind, where people giving the injections admittedly knew or could deduce whether they were injecting the experimental vaccine or the placebo. This is not acceptable scientific methodology for vaccine trials. You are correct in your calls for a diversity of scientific opinions. Like in nature, we need a polyculture of information and its interpretations. And we don’t have that right now. Choosing not to take the vaccine is holding space for reason, transparency and accountability to emerge. You are right to ask, ‘What comes next when we give away authority over our own bodies?’ Do not be intimidated. You are showing resilience, integrity and grit. You are coming together in your communities, making plans to help one another and standing for scientific accountability and free speech, which are required for society to thrive. We are among many who stand with you. Angela Durante, PhD Denis Rancourt, PhD Claus Rinner, PhD Laurent Leduc, PhD Donald Welsh, PhD John Zwaagstra, PhD Jan Vrbik, PhD Valentina Capurri, PhD" 5
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  15. The folks who realize that the "election" was rigged are not ant-elections. Does anti vax even make sense as a term since its not even a vaccine, it's a jab. I think that these folks who are being called anti vaxxers or whatever should be called anti not going to let something be put into my body that I dont know what it is, instead, although that's pretty long
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  16. Who's fanatically anti-vax? I only know of those who've researched the information, soberly thought through their health risks and medical history, and decided to do without it. Usually protecting themselves by other means. They are completely obliging to others doing differently. I am "fanatically" against any coercion and psychological intimidation on individuals who chose they don't want it, for whatever their reasons. (Including religious 'reasons') Next time with some other matter, it will be oneself/one's 'group' that a government and 'society' goes after. "For the good of us all". There's little "anti-vaxx", that's made of straw, but there's plenty anti-"anti-vaxxers". That tells one something, how much a universal obedience is essential for many.
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  17. This morning I heard an interview with Gov Beshear of Kentucky bemoaning the fact that there are still vestiges of the American system of checks and balances in place in his state. He sees as a defect the fact that the citizenry can influence public debate via their elected representatives in the state's legislature. He lamented the fact that power didn't reside in one individual and that that individual couldn't be free to impose their will even and especially if that will was 'unpopular'. A sitting Governor in the USA on public airwaves lamenting the fact that he can't be Mussolini, wtf.
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  18. William, No. I do not find the issue of the professional qualifications or conduct of lawyers the caliber of Sidney Powel and Lin Wood debatable. Especially not when a corrupt activist judge is involved. For as much as I despise Marc Elias, I have the same professional attitude about his legal demeanor standards. He games the system and might even be guilty of bribery, being a bag man, and so on, but within the legal structure and as a lawyer, like when in court, he stays within bounds. At least from what I have seen. Disbarring him would be a political act, not a legal one. And I would not be on board. btw - I do not have the same evaluation of Andrew Weissmann, who has been guilty of prosecutorial misconduct over and over and always skirted despite his prosecutions being overturned over and over. This is one dude who should be disbarred and even thrown in prison. But being the Clinton attack dog from early on, well, we know that, even though cheating is his judicial standard, getting away with cheating is the rule until he is overturned. And then he, personally, gets away with it even when his case is lost. Rand had a good shortcut for this kind of garbage, which includes the garbage they are throwing at Sidney Powel and Lin Wood. Don't bother to examine a folly-ask yourself only what it accomplishes. As you know, that is not my normal standard. But in this case, the abuse of power is so egregious, and the corruption of the players is so obvious (they keep getting busted over and over), the details don't matter. It's like the 12 FBI agents spending months pretending to be militia to set up and entrap 6 actual militia dudes in Michigan about kidnapping Whitaker and thinking they have done something to fight crime. It's all bullshit. Can the details like color, texture, thickness, etc., of a pile of shit keep it from being shit? No. That's why I'm not interested in the details in this case. Both Powell and Wood will appeal and win. So all this is just a big waste of time as a publicity stunt to get the press pressure off of Biden's fuck-ups and the election audit steam-roller heading this way. Michael
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  19. Michael, Thanks for reminding me why I read Objectivist Living. On a side note. I listen to a podcast of Victor David Hanson. His arsenal is sets of facts that he straightforwardly (with no axe to grind) goes through whenever asked about how we got here. Its plain to see the extent of the moral crimes from the items he lays out that are self explanatory. So...just thank you.
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  20. Individuals, those who were in government and those working in the school system at the time need to be held accountable for their own individual actions, and all individuals or organizations in possession of any information pertaining to those crimes should forward that on to investigative authorities, so that those individuals who perpetrated any crime are brought to justice. In today's group think however, even though these are past crimes by individual people, much of the focus and blame will be on the so-called current collective "guilt" of or "stain" on Government, the Taxpayer, or Society (the polite self-effacing collectivist guilty Canadian... the "We"), simultaneously the favorite mystical scapegoats and paternal caretakers of the members of the collective mob... the subconscious premise being the straw man responsibility and guilt of the current generation ("original sin" inherited by birth perhaps?) justifies the thirst for self- or other-flagellation , self- or other-loathing and redistribution. IF that stupid culture of socialism could give way to individualism, current government officials would, for the most part, have no reason to cover any sins by past governments and other individuals, and promptly and simply stop covering it up and start investigating individuals ... but the group think of collective guilt gives them plenty of "reasons", personal and political, to thwart and distort justice into a Canadian woke circus.
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  21. A Jew speaks.... When WE were led into the gas chambers, THEY said nothing. When WE were forcibly converted, THEY said nothing. When WE were thrown out of a country just for being Jews, THEY said nothing. BUT when WE now defend ourselves, all of a sudden THEY have something to say. How did WE take our revenge on the Germans for their "Final Solution?" How did WE take revenge on the Spanish for their Inquisition? How did WE take revenge on Islam for being Dhimmis? How did WE take revenge on the lies of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion?" WE studied our Torah, WE innovated in medicine, WE innovated in defense systems, WE innovated in technology, WE innovated in agriculture, WE composed music, WE wrote poetry, WE made the desert bloom, WE won Nobel prizes, WE founded the movie industry, WE financed a fledgling democracy, WE fulfilled the word of G-d by becoming a Light Unto the Nations of the Earth. DEAR WORLD, when You criticize us for defending our heritage and our ancestral homeland -- WE, the Jews of the world, do exactly what You did to/for us; WE IGNORE YOU. You have proven to us for the last 2,000 years that when the chips are down, animosity towards Jews reigns supreme. Now leave us alone -- and go sort out problems in your own back yard whilst WE continue our 5778-year old mission of enhancing the world we all share. -The Jews
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  22. As the kids today might say, "Imma stop you right there..." Pacifism. "The necessary consequence of man’s right to life is his right to self-defense. In a civilized society, force may be used only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use. All the reasons which make the initiation of physical force an evil, make the retaliatory use of physical force a moral imperative. If some 'pacifist' society renounced the retaliatory use of force, it would be left helplessly at the mercy of the first thug who decided to be immoral. Such a society would achieve the opposite of its intention: instead of abolishing evil, it would encourage and reward it." [“The Nature of Government,” VOS, 146; pb 108.] Ayn Rand; Harry Binswanger. The Ayn Rand lexicon: objectivism from A to Z (Kindle Locations 7074-7076). Meridian.
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  23. I cannot speak from experience (to your disappointment I am sure), but there is a certain consistency with those who are consumed with a hatred for everything on earth including themselves to be eminently satisfied, in fact proudly self-martyred (so to speak) with that kind of self-hatred. How else can a culture of small envious people who vilify the rich or successful arise without a hatred of the good for being good... and hence at least partly... the archetype of that small wrinkled hating thing hating those good parts of the psyche within. The Canadian Liberal and the NDP might be already be worse than the Marxist-leftist wing of the US Democratic party, but darn it of those Yanks aren't doin' their dangdest to out Marx them Socialist Canucks. Any neighbor who would say "please", "sorry", and "thank you" to your face, but would have no quandry robbing you blind in your sleep to keep their party's corrupt politicians in power, squashing your right to free speech, or forcing you to risk your life with mediocre state run healthcare or at least trying to guilt you into not "jumping the queue" (as if one exists) by seeking healthcare in a freer country.. The little tyrant next door, might smile at you in the street, but would grin at the chance to have you shackled and cowed by her leftist strong men. I need not list them, they are legion. I do not know you personally, but perhaps You might have seen that tyrant in the mirror, if you ever had the secret wish to force others against their will, not because they violated anyone else's rights but because you wanted to see them suffer, because you wanted to equalize their success with other's failures, you wanted to violate the rights of those innocent not because of their incompetence and disability but because of their competence and ability, because you wanted to knock them down a notch or two, for being successful... because you wanted to eat the rich, and strike out at the good for being the good, because you wanted to lash out in your own shame... or perhaps you no longer see that tyrant in the mirror, or indeed, perhaps in fact, you are one of the lucky few who never saw it. Trust me, as a person raised in a mixed economy, semi-socialist state, rife with a culture of altruism, and dominated by progressive education over the last 5 decades, I indeed was one of those tyrants in the mirror and next door. Now I know better. I see what you did there with the politeness.... quite funny. I observe that the statement I have heard: "Canadians are polite, but Americans are friendly", as an aphorism is quite true, very much, most of the time. Not all Canadian politicians are as I allude to above, THIS guy can actually be quite impressive from time to time:
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  24. The January 6 incursion into the Capitol building wasn’t "an act of insurrection," and I wouldn’t even call the actions of the infiltrators who did such damage as was done a "riot." Planned theatrics. The incursion was: 1. a trap for the genuine Trump supporters who entered the building with the permission of the guards; 2. a ploy to derail consideration of objections to electoral slates; 3. a set-up for Pelosi to bring impeachment charges against Trump. Ellen
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  25. Karen er... Carol, What do you think about the manly man and socialist good-old-boy with his CNN badge of distinction who wants to get into his date's panties so much, he brags to her about how CNN is running a phony propaganda campaign to take out Gaetz? Is your idea of the opposite of Matt Gaetz--specifically an amoral fratboy type with dead, mean eyes and the glee in getting noticed, no matter for what., in other words, an entitled idiot, and not too bright a one at that--our formidable CNN dork who tried to brag his way into the sack with his project Veritas date about what a badass he was? Look closely because that's what the modern adult elite socialist male looks like. Scratch any one of them and that's what you get. It sure is a pretty picture, ain't it? Enough to make one develop seething admiration... Michael
    3 points
  26. Objectivist leaders: Something has gone wrong when some Objectivist leaders accept the idea of supposed free trade that includes trade with tyrants, for example, trade with Kantians, Pragmatists, Muslim Iran, or Communist China. There is no free trade with tyrants which operate according to the principle of force and not by the principle of individual rights. Free trade, individual rights, and private property are not possible in dealings with tyrannical individuals or governments. Perhaps not even possible with Objectivist leaders who endorse trade with tyrants or advocates of same, including with sympathetic American politicians or claimed Objectivists. The fundamental ethical principle of Objectivism is rights, including individual rights and property rights. Objectivist leaders who support tyrannical governments by endorsing what the claimed Objectivists call free trade, including trade with tyrants, have lost the central ideas of of Objectivism. I am greatly disappointed to find that some Objectivist leaders have uncritically endorsed their support of tyrannies by means of what they claim to be free trade. Free trade, incidentally, is the action demonstration of individual rights and property rights. If you trade with those who oppose rights you yourself are denying rights. Shall I say more? Ralph Hertle
    3 points
  27. A big difference between elitists doing crud in other countries and their doing it here is the Americans (the real ones) of whom there are still an abundant number in this country's populace. American ingenuity and spirit going against elitist crooks is a whole ‘nuther thing from populaces used to being ruled by "superiors" trying to rebel. Ellen
    3 points
  28. The "conspiracy theory advocate" label for people who see it is being ramped up to "domestic terrorist." Ellen
    3 points
  29. Glad to hear people of influence or accomplishment are actually open to the ideas discussed here. I understand and respect their privacy. Rand discussed a great many things... she identified single State corruption, a swamp on a small scale... but without an inking of the technology of today could she even have in her wildest dreams thought of such a global elitist oligarchy attempting to enslave the entire world as it is today? Had she ever thought these petty technocrat busy bodies in government, big tech and the media would ever be so bold as to proclaim to all, their ideal two class system... the government-media-tech-illuminati and the quaking yet trusting sheeple whom they "tend"? The "elimination" of "property" for some while those in power keep to themselves the "right" duty and privilege to consume, alter, share, redefine, rent, mortgage, pawn, sell, exchange, transfer, give away or destroy all things, or to exclude others from doing so... There are those who would say it has been so for many decades, others would say always, but for it to be in naked sight and as brazen as it is now... it disgusts me.
    3 points
  30. I have literally no idea what the letter who shall not be named is/was/could be/have been, but the spark I refuse to let die is the recognition that so much in the world right now is 'just not right' and that sparks draws up some anger when I feel as if no one else can see It or fails to call it out. That was always the thing that initially drew me to nameless letter the allegory of righteousness , bold righteousness in the face of all this shit.
    3 points
  31. You can't let these at war with us folks off the hook with libertarian property rights theory because we are on a de facto war footing. We Are At War. --Brant
    3 points
  32. Michael, everyone, Notice, too, the Pence-Ryan email exchange linked to from the letter: https://files.constantcontact.com/899f3f04701/106dc3d3-c645-4215-bdd3-addad65bade2.pdf Ellen
    3 points
  33. ThatGuy, Since World War II the U.S. has been in a new phase of degradation to which Rand was pretty much oblivious. Socialism vs. Capitalism, Left vs. Right, Liberal vs. Conservative is now just entertainment, like television wrestling, hiding venal, thieving, murdering Mafia-like corruption. It makes “taxing the rich” or “robbing Peter to pay Paul” look good. I wrote “pretty much” because once in a while Rand would acknowledge that something more sinister than differences in political philosophy was going on. The only example I can think of at the moment is when, in an essay, she entertained the possibility that Marilyn Monroe had been murdered (for knowing too much about the crowd she was running around with at the time, though Rand didn’t say that). Leonard Peikoff hosted a radio show in the late 90s. Trying to make the above point, here’s what I emailed to him when he asked for topics to discuss (he didn’t use it). The quality of my writing has improved, I think, since back then. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aug 6, 1998 *Choose your issues* My two choices are related, so first here's the common idea. In years past, however unconstitutional and extreme the violation of our rights, laws were passed and adhered to do it -- a pro forma chipping away of freedom. America was heading toward a totalitarian state -- in a genteel manner. No longer. We're graduating into a more mature stage of fascism. Besides the pretense of respect for the rule of law we now have outright gangsterism and thuggery. Here are my two choices: 1. The unbelievable corruption within the U.S. Department of Justice. The HUD and the savings and loan scandals, to give just two examples, were all made possible by crooked judges. None of the major perpetrators went to prison, only lesser figures or even innocent fall guys. Whistleblowers, insiders who try to expose the corruption, risk being sent to prison on false charges. Rodney Stich has written several books on corruption within the government, after experiencing it first hand. The thing to be done about it now is to make the corruption known. Then dishonest judges must be punished and replaced with honest ones. (By the way, Stein & Day, the first publisher of your -- LP's --first book, was robbed of all its assets by the corrupt Chapter 11 system. Sol Stein wrote a book about it entitled *A Feast for Lawyers*.) 2. The voluntary news blackout of the mainstream media. On some subjects a government censor could hardly do a better job. And when not a blackout it's often a dimout. This is well known to those who are interested in current affairs, thanks to those bright lights the alternative press, talk radio, and the Internet. But ask the average joe about the Vince Foster murder, the execution style murder of Mary Caitrin Mahoney -- Georgetown Starbucks cafe manager and former White House Intern, the evidence of a missile shoot down of TWA flight 800, FBI foreknowledge of [now I would say participation in] the Oklahoma City bombing, etc. and you get a blank stare.
    3 points
  34. Maybe Trump will pardon Assange on Christmas Day. Ellen
    3 points
  35. I like Lin Wood a lot. "Onward, Christian soldiers...." I don’t care a damn that he's a flaming Christian. I like his fervor and resoluteness and direct on-pointedness. And, fact is, a high percentage of the core Americans who support Trump and who won’t put up with the fraud or accept a "Great Reset" American future are Christians. Ellen
    3 points
  36. Its a good attitude to have. Its something I'd tell my son. Mannerisms in my written way of communicating are different than my internal methodologies. When the score has me down to my opponent I haven't lost. Not while I can mount an offense. Do I deal with my morale? Of course. Its part of regaining an edge. What you said "I am so pissed at them I could spit." resonates. It is personal. Though making others targets of my animosity doesn't improve my chances of winning anything. I have so little mental space to waste on an outcome, on an occupation for feeling as if I've gained traction in a battle I can't win. So I choose battles personal to me. Making break throughs in playing guitar. Preparing my way to winning another tournament. And I bring all the fire and determination to these things that you bring to yours. I hear you. That's the reason I come to Objectivist Living. I don't come to hear you've thrown in the towel. It always good news hearing an opponent has been outed for cheating. https://theamericanconservatives.net/attention-trump-campaign-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-won-groundbreaking-case-in-october-gives-campaign-right-to-examine-voting-machine-source-code/
    3 points
  37. A New Fad in College Football A new fad has started in college football. The crowds are starting to chant: "Fuck Joe Biden!" WATCH: Virginia Tech Crowd Drives Leftist COVID Extremists Crazy, “F*ck Joe Biden" Chants Start (VIDEO) WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM Friday night’s game at Lane Stadium was the first time in two years that it was completely sold out. As players raced out of the tunnel, it was tough to find elbow space, especially in the Virginia Tech student... If woke idiots can take a knee to the National Anthem in sports, the other side can give a big fat one-finger salute to a fraudulently elected president. Finally there is some real pushback against woke idiocy in customary American cultural venues instead of simply leaving it up to Trump. Michael
    2 points
  38. That's how cocky Joe Biden is, going deep into Pennsylvania and visiting Shanksville where most folks are MAGA. Does not matter who the people support when you control the votes!!!!!!!!
    2 points
  39. I got another one for the list. Walk in a straight line into the showers and dont believe the propaganda that they are really ovens. Work shall set you free.
    2 points
  40. Oh, it's shining. The problem is getting through the clouds. The really bad things are yet to come but even those will be transcended as humanity lumbers into its future. We are in an acceleration of history, mostly thanks to technology and that in itself is thanks to the Enlightenment. --Brant buckle up
    2 points
  41. It makes no sense except for sweeping the problem under the table, if that. And that would be all in the head. Governments don't give a shit regardless. It's much more about the USA than China. We might as well nuke DC. --Brant now that I think about it . . .
    2 points
  42. Has anyone here read NB's novel Layers? It was published in July 2020. I had heard he had written and completed at least one novel and that it had been submitted to publishers about 15 years ago. But for some reason, it was never published. I bought the Kindle version of Layers a couple of months ago and am in the middle of reading it for the second time. I didn't know it had been published until I did a search on Nathaniel Branden books on Amazon. The book has not been mentioned on any of NB's Facebook pages. It's not even listed in the store on nathanielbranden.com I really like the book, and I think many others who are familiar with Nathaniel Branden and his work will also like it. Here's a link to the Kindle edition of the book on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Layers-Nathaniel-Branden-ebook/dp/B08DTH71H1/ John V.
    2 points
  43. I read through about a dozen of so of the tweets that come up on the search. I think that most of them are bots. Maxine Waters looks better wearing a mask. Ellen
    2 points
  44. Brant, That's the choice I'm making. People who tell you to take their vaccine, then inject into patients something that is not a vaccine are lying by default. I don't trust them. (And, for a disagreement that may surprise some people, that extends to President Trump. He's the guy who did warp speed. I admire his commitment to great achievements brought in early and under budget, but I don't ever want to take medical advice of that magnitude from him. I don't trust his knowledge in that field.) Also, I don't believe the severity of this disease warrants a vaccine, much less a permanent change to core of my immunological system. (And, where my health is concerned, I hate it when I hear a doctor say, "Oops...") There are plenty of effective medicines and treatments for it. However, I do wish Peter well and hope this was a good thing for him. I believe in the possibility, but I don't have a clue about how to calculate the odds. I don't believe he was foolish. I don't know enough to claim that. Even if I did, what's done is done. It can no longer be undone. This step is permanent. He made a choice in the middle of a massive amount of disinformation in our culture (on all sides). But there are solid positive indications for making that choice. For example, the entire country of Israel appears to be going the vaccine route. I saw on the headlines that Israel is mucking around with vaccine passports. I don't know how true that is, but it did make the news, so some Israelis are promoting it. Israelis are many things, but stupid they are not. My own negative attitude about the COVID-19 vaccines is based on my low opinion of the characters behind the the COVID-19 projects. And that opinion is based on observing their immoral behavior over time. Like I said, I don't trust them. But Peter? He's my friend. May he live long and prosper. There is no way on earth I will ever wish anything bad for him. I sincerely hope his experience is a good one. Michael
    2 points
  45. Here is the first interview with General Mike Flynn in a while. It was conducted yesterday (Feb. 5, 2021) by Doug Billings for a show called The Right Side. The sound from Gen Flynn is not great at times (it sounds like sporadic tinny VOIP degradation), but it is so good to hear from him, it's worth putting up with. DOUG BILLINGS / GENERAL MICHAEL FLYNN INTERVIEW Here's an article on Centipede Nation. It used a YouTube video, which I preferred not to embed. But the comments are the things I was going to mention. I believe the timings will line up with the BitChute version I posted, or at least be close. If you want to see the YT version, go to the link. General Michael Flynn Interview With Doug Billings… In other words, to the chagrin of a lot of Q people and similar Patriots, President Trump did not sign the Insurrection Act and there is no "plan," but something covert and strong is cooking... As a practical issue, I believe there are many things happening with different factions, including a possible "plan." But I hold Gen. Flynn way high on the credibility scale, so if there is one, it is probably being run by a much smaller group than insinuated by rumor. Michael
    2 points
  46. I've started a new topic dedicated to the rapidly-developing news regarding the stock market goings-on lately, as it relates to the post-election cycle. Things are happening so fast and furious, it's hard to keep up, but it's also a good time to see how the Objectivist arguments about fiat currency vs. a commodity-backed system are playing out in real-time current events. (And though the election may be "over", the consequences are just beginning, as things are really taken some interesting turns...if I didn't know any better, I'd swear that Francisco D'Anconia was out there making his moves while Ragnar Danneskjold was making his...) Here's a post to kick it off: The silver market. People are buying more than what's available, and the world is getting a lesson in the very-basic but very-ignored laws of supply and demand... U.S. Mint Still Rationing Silver Coins Amid ‘Exceptional’ Demand "The Reddit-fueled run-up in silver prices might be stalling, but the U.S. Mint said it is still rationing its sales of silver coins because of “continued exceptional market demand,” as well as limited supplies and manufacturing capacity. "The Mint is also allocating gold and platinum coin sales to authorized purchasers, it said in a statement Tuesday. The policy will be in place 'for the foreseeable future.'" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-02/u-s-mint-to-continue-silver-coin-allocation-amid-strong-demand
    2 points
  47. Things are looking bleak. Based on this tweet and some other indications, rather than focus on keeping Trump in, we should start focusing on destroying the impostors. And breaking up big tech. There are certain indications that this is doable and the pushback will be massive (it's already starting), so I will keep contributing about this on this very thread until the Deep State unravels--or better, gets unraveled. I want to keep hope alive for OL readers to stay inspired that President Trump will be sworn in next week, but reality is what it is, not what I want it to be. So a fundamental reframe is in order. This fight is not about one election. It is about draining the swamp and facing down Communist China and the globalists. And getting President Trump back in as soon as possible. Look what he was able to do in one term without being an insider. Now he knows what's what and who's who. Once he gets back in, he will be seasoned at swamp draining. Regardless of what happens, I'm in. Michael
    2 points
  48. TG, Well, he does have an account. and Could he be tweeting, instead of sending thunderbolts, from the starry sky above to the moral law within? Michael
    2 points
  49. I suppose I have to talk about Michigan. The sensationalist part is not the most important, however only at a human interest level. The important part will be the parts that will result in certifying a Trump win. 1. Two of the four Wayne County canvass board members, William Hartman and Monica Palmer, Republicans, refused to certify the the election results for Wayne County in Michigan (which includes Detroit). See here. There was general celebration on the Trump side because this might throw the election to the state delegates, in which case Trump would win as there is a Republican majority there. Even President Trump tweeted his satisfaction. 2. Suddenly, William Hartman and Monica Palmer reversed their positions and certified the results unanimously with the other two canvass board members in exchange for an audit of select precincts. See here. 3. President Trump dug in claiming he won Michigan. The most glaring problem, one among many, was that there were more votes than registered voters. See here, for instance, among several of President Trump's tweets. 4. It came out that Hartman and Palmer reversed their positions because they were physically threatened and called racist. Two are on camera. The first by Ned Staebler, a far left Democrat election observer. See here. Then by Democrat State Representative-Elect Abraham Aiyash, see here. This bonehead actually mentioned--on camera--their children, the schools they go to, and he hoped nothing bad would happen to them. These threats prompted Hartman and Palmer to cave and sign on to certifying Wayne county's election results. 5. Aric Nesbitt, Senate President Pro Tempore of the Michigan Senate, issued a call for "a full, independent audit of the recent election prior to the certification of results," quoting his tweet here. The full document with the signature of 40 Senators is herechrome-extension://gmpljdlgcdkljlppaekciacdmdlhfeon/images/beside-link-icon.svg. 6. In another plot twist, William Hartman and Monica Palmer rescinded their votes to certify the county election results and filed affidavits saying they and their families were threatened. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for the negotiations of that one. I don't have the news story just yet, but here is a tweet by Jack Posobiec. So Michigan is back in play. I am sure more plot twists will occur, but it will be hard for the Democrat machine thugs in Michigan to pull off a steal now that so much national scrutiny is on them and a legal tentacle of the Kraken is now slapping them around. So President Trump is right, albeit a bit premature. Michigan is his. Michael
    2 points