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  1. 3 points
    https://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-milkyway-over-beaverhill-county-jestephotography-ltd.html Something a lil different than my Wildlife photography. Nikon Z7 mirrorless with a Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 Art series lens for Astrophotography.
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    The editor of The Objective Standard, a magazine affiliated with the Ayn Rand Institute, has finally responded to the revelations in ARI Watch’s exposé “Who is Carl Barney?" about ARI’s largest donor. ARI Watch reviews that response in a new article Barney Tells His Story. You can understand it by itself because it quotes the TOS article.
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    The Perfect Storm for a VACCINE HOLOCAUST is Now Here video, 36 minutes -- Mike Adams https://www.brighteon.com/8879b5af-59b3-4ed3-98e6-f9037f22ade5
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    The Real Roots of the Internet and Social Media The following video from Corbett is quite an education. You can get the transcript and sources here: Episode 359 – The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn’t Want You to Know If you want to know why the claim is bogus that big tech companies are private companies, therefore they should be able to freely censor whoever they please over political preference, take a look at this video. Would one ever make political preference a condition for civil service or joining the armed forces? Of course not. There is a fact that is becoming clearer and clearer to the public as time goes on. Big Tech is Big Government in the guise of private companies. But the big tech companies were and still are funded in great part by the government. And they never strayed from their real purpose, covert surveillance and influence of people in foreign lands--and ditto for American citizens. From that lens, a hell of a lot of mysterious happenings start making sense. Michael
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    Michael, What you say about Q is along the lines I've been thinking, too. Sometimes Q is right, sometimes wrong, but always Q gets people questioning and poking and prying. William's supercilious negativity was what first aroused my interest. William's effective as a reverse indicator. Ellen
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    I haven't read the article , so I don't know who is shilling for whom. But whenever I hear about conspiracy theories relating to tech companies becoming seemingly tech behemoths it makes me wonder whether the behemothing was orchestrated by other than market forces. Especially things tech/social/media. I get there can be tons of money chasing info /data the sellers can take advantage of for marketing and such. It would be hard to direct all that spending toward mining that data if it were spread out far and wide, fortunately the behemoths aggregate a lot of it and fortunately since a large majority of everyone uses the behemoths we are pretty comfortable using them . It's odd there is Coke and Pepsi but no Google and .., or YouTube and .., no? I get Carnegie built US Steel , but he acquired and built his way to that, bought other independent companies , integrated supply chains ect. US internet behemoths feel like they sprang from nothing to everything , did Facebook ever experience a lack of servers that limited their capacity ? Or YouTube? Did they acquire others' capacities ? How much investment is/was needed for the hardware ? I am completely ignorant of the cost structure for the industry , but I assume the price of raw computing power has decreased in at least the last decade, though I doubt Mom or Pop would be able to out compete the existing titans just on the hardware costs alone. But as I said I'm ignorant of the cost structure and perhaps that just feeds my bias toward sympathy for the idea that Big Brother helped to make sure all the lovely data and control bottlenecks seem to be limited to a few players.
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    She knows shit about predators. --Brant been there, done that, smack, smack, smack if humans weren't predators, we'd have eyes on the sides of our heads
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    Well, I think you deserve a lot more than a pork chop. Just to let you know: I might not be able to be responding to anything further for a couple days. I have a dental operation scheduled for early tomorrow. Oh, such fun. Ellen
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    “We are not really in the business of asking for the share of that power. We are in the business of trying to grab that power and return it to the people.” Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) Link. Of course, "return it to the people" is a transparent cover for giving immense powers to Omar and a few like-minded with her to satisfy their power lust.
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    Thank you. And right back at you. J
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    Bump: C'mon, O-vish necromancers, give it a jolt. J
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    Oh, goodie. The symbolism that goes all the way back to Babylonia. (It does go all the way back at least that far.) Ellen
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    "How a 'slick talker' lobbyist boosted the false Seth Rich murder conspiracy — before getting shot himself" See also for details: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conspiracyland/id1471037693 Sister Perpetua of the Holy Smokes.
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    That’s a great video, Jerry. Freaking horrifying how many people cannot grasp the problem with this situation, their legal immunity. The holocaust he outlines really has been their plan for years, it will all be disclosed in total and no one will be able to deny the truth of it, in due time. But the military intelligence operation we are living in now, that recruited Trump, prevented Killery’s election and is engineering the Epstein, spygate and other disclosures we’ve been witnessing, has already stopped these plans.
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    😄 😃 What evidence do you have that I am not trying to understand what Gilder says? On the other hand, there is you calling me a shill for Big Brother, making inuendos about government surveillance, Google and Facebook wanting to "rule the world" and "conspiring with government", despite the government starting to investigate Big Tech for anti-trust violations. In addition, you used Gilder's book to try to justify your inuendos, despite Gilder's book providing no support for you.
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    Notice how the spin is that the Trump allowed the meddling in the last Presidential election? Fox had a new video of Joe Biden talking about Russian and other meddling in the last Presidential election. He said something like this didn't happen on the Obama / Biden watch. But Joe? It did. You were IN POWER in 2016 and Trump didn't get sworn in until January 2017 if I have my calendar dates right. So Jobama allowed the meddling and they should be held accountable.
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    Disrupting How Progressivism Works in America Regular Progressivism as a process of political change in America (baby steps) rarely fails, but it's slow. As shown below, there is a tonic. The jig can get blown when a Black Swan (say, a wildcard like President Trump) disrupts the ongoing progress of the ideological-political conveyor belt. The result is that, in panic, the "Progressives" who are progressing a specific agenda will freak and show their cards way too early. It's the paranoia of a liar who loses the attention of his target and thinks that means he's been busted. Here's how it works. 1. The Progressives decide on an unpopular position they want to ram down the throats of everyone, which means they get the power to do that and others not only have to take it, they have to pay for it. For example, let's say they wanted the US government to pay for the health care of illegal aliens. They know few people want that, so they first have to put in a foundation and dress it up to make it sound reasonable, even the opposite. Then, from a position of power, present the foundation to the public. President Obama did this with Obamacare. 2. After their "foundation ploy" is out in the open, they fish for displays by the opposition--they actually goad the opposition to get reactions. That way they can bash the opposition with trigger words/phrases and accusations about violating procedures of decency, yada yada yada--and they have prepared all this in advance. For example, in September 2009, Representative Joe Wilson from South Carolina gave President Obama a gift when he yelled out in Congress, "You lie!" to Obama's claim that no health care benefits would be given to illegal aliens. Obama had been goading the opposition in his speech to the joint session of Congress and practically daring anyone from the opposition to say anything. Just listen to the booing-like reactions every time he said the opposition was getting it all wrong. Obama's smirk after Wilson yelled that "you lie" comment said it all, though. You can almost see him think, Ha! That worked better than I expected. Then he recovered his "serious" demeanor and went on to claim that no federal funds would pay for abortions (but that's a different issue he was ramming down people's throat using this same system, double dipping so to speak). In this post, I will only stay with the issue of illegal aliens getting US taxes in the form of free health care for the sake of making the process very easy to understand. 2. KABOOM! See the headlines at the time. The condescension and tut-tut-tutting from Progressives was as thick as a ton of cowpiles. The Progressives lived off the fallout (to that and the general wave it created) without any serious pushback for several years. Hell, ripples even extended into the next administration when McCain stopped Obamacare from being repealed in the Senate. 3. But President Trump happened, their Queen designate was not crowned, and the Progressives not only lost their power, they lost their bearings. I don't need to illustrate that. We all know what happened. The result is that their timing on the true intended outcomes of their different policy agendas went seriously haywire and they have been running around in circles ever since. 4. Now they have a shot to regain their power with another election, but they have lost all sense of how their own system works policy-wise, in other words, it is grounded on selling a bait-and-switch through patience, not hysteria or brute force. (Apropos, brute force is not out of the picture, though. It only comes in at the end if they get real power, not "checked and balanced" power. Then they start the mass killings few of them, only the insiders, realize is coming. See the several major leftie nations where mass graves exist as examples.) The video below is a perfect example of what happens when someone disrupts the Progressive process in a major way. Don't forget, Obama claimed there is no way the US will pay for the health care of illegal aliens, right? Just look. Every goddam one of those Democrats on the first night of the primary debates for the 2020 election raised their hand saying they wanted illegal aliens to get US taxes in the form of free health care. The truth is, even for Obama back then, that is what they wanted all along. The rest was bait. But they screwed up. They just gave President Trump and other Republicans running in 2020 a hell of an image for campaign ads. All because they lost their marbles when someone threw a monkeywrench in the gears of the conveyor belt they were on. They were doing the long con and got stalled by an unexpected event. Now, in panic, thinking they've been busted anyway, they are unmasking themselves on the long con thinking this is how they are going to get their power back. Jeez... Talk about discombobulated... I thought they were better as opponents... The conclusion? We need more Black Swans. We need more disruptive, but productive, people like President Trump. The Progressives will not stop building sandcastles of worship to lousy gods to mold with cement, but a good strong wave before the cement dries collapses them every time. Michael
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    How many deaths can be laid on l B Johnson and Robt MacN for how they did the Vietnam War? I count five million plus or minus a million. This includes the Cambodian communist generated genocide. Now these are part of various results. lBJ and Abraham Lincoln were smart men deluded into righteousness. Woodrow Wilson did by far the most damage. No prof. should even be elected President. But the Communists and the Nazis were and are pure murdering evil. We are surrounded today by Communists in academia, the media and big Corp. media, so called msm. Most don't know who they really represent and/or are.--If they aren't stupid they aren't educated. Never mind evil. The evil is in the rest of us for not rousting them out. Then the rest of ID's salvation is hunting them down. --Brant you can vote yourself intso fascism but then you'll have to shoot yourself out (not original by me)
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    Final days of Seth Rich conspiracy peddling? Kevin Poulsen has a different perspective, based on the Mueller Report itself: Mueller Report: Assange Smeared Seth Rich to Cover for Russians Julian Assange repeatedly blamed Seth Rich, the murdered DNC staffer, for Russia’s leaks. The Mueller report shows that Assange was lying from the start. Exclusive: The true origins of the Seth Rich conspiracy theory. A Yahoo News investigation.
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    Yes, thank you MSK for the book recommendation. ( I was hoping my implicit laziness would be enough to prod you into foregoing a due chastisement and giving up some goods : ) ) e-luddites unite !
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    Jonathan, Maybe. But do we have it coming? After all, Rand can't read anything anymore. Michael
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    T, You can say that again. But I'll let you dig into the government-corporation lovemaking on your own. There's plenty of stuff around. Let's just say that without government protections, funding and resources like satellites and subsidized power (in addition to way too much stuff to list here), Google would not be the Google behemoth it is today. Here's a 2018 book for ya': Life After Google: The Fall of Big Data and the Rise of the Blockchain Economy by George Gilder. Gilder is the guy who correctly predicted a bunch of important stuff about big tech and even the Internet back during the television years. And he's been right over and over since. You might be interested to know that the view of human nature of the Google folks is essentially Marxist (and, by extension, this applies to other big tech folks as well, but not as much as with Google). I'm going to push the bounds of fair use and provide some relevant quotes from Gilder's book. Gilder continues in the quote below. The reason I separated the passage (it continues from the previous one) is that, although it does not deal specifically with Marx, it shows how the Marxist model inevitably leads to "walled gardens" and "company stores" with arbitrary market practices, both of which need a massive security system in place for protection. He also shows the bait and switch of "free" software in this Marxist model. The free not only serves as the bait, it isolates Google from complying with many legal business requirements. The help on the way that Gilder talks about is blockchain and cryptocurrency. In the next chapter, Gilder gives an explanation of the "free" as it pertains to both philosophy and practice. Marx is not mentioned, but the mechanistic view of human nature (people as robots that can be programmed) inherent in Marxism is clear. Don't forget, whenever we talk about Marx, we already know the fundamental issue is power over the individual (collectivism). If you want to know all about the data centers, the subsidized electrical power Google uses (the Dalles Dam between Klickitat, Washington, and Wasco, Oregon) and so on, this book will give you all the information you need. For a relatively quick and general overview of Gilder's thinking about Google, I can't recommend highly enough the following video. If you watch it, in less than one hour you will know vastly more about Google than most of the "experts" around you. He even goes into the Marxist thing (from a different and more limited view, but still he covers it). Gilder doesn't cover Google's Darpa and Pentagon stuff, Google's incestuous relationship with the former Obama administration (a crapload of Google's employees got hired by Obama and a crapload of Obama folks got hired by Google--all at the same time), and so on, but I think Gilder's perspective for the long run is more important than Google's icky politics. Just because I am against the way Google wants to rule over everyone, that doesn't mean those Google dudes are stupid. On the contrary, they are brilliant. Imagine if, one day, they ever became committed--for real--to not being evil... Michael
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    Michael, No. No. No. I wish I could help. But this is a discussion forum. May I suggest seeing a doctor? Michael
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    Whoop-de-do! Did you notice the title MSK gave this thread? “The Real Roots of the Internet and Social Media" is very different from the title of the video. In contrast, my post was about the real roots of the Internet and social media, at least Facebook. Did you notice MSK's absurd assertions? - the big tech companies were and still are funded in great part by the government - they never strayed from their real purpose, covert surveillance and influence of people in foreign lands--and ditto for American citizens. How is the first anywhere near truthful when near 90% of Google's and Facebook's revenues are from advertising? Regarding money, tech companies and government, the opposite is more truthful. Care to guess how much Google, Facebook, and their employees pay in income and FICA taxes? How is MSK's assertion that their real purpose, covert surveillance and influence is anywhere near truthful? Are getting revenues -- a big chunk of which is used to pay their employees -- and surveillance for advertising purposes non-existent or irrelevant per you and MSK? Was Zuckerburg's aim years ago to create an online social community non-existent or irrelevant per you and MSK? Was the Google founders' effort to make a search engine years ago non-existent or irrelevant per you and MSK? Have you noticed MSK's -- like his messiah's -- fondness for hyperbole? "[A] little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It's an innocent form of exaggeration -- and a very effective form of promotion." - Trump: The Art of the Deal A "little" hyperbole, "truthful" and "innocent"? 😄 Did you notice MSK's massive insinuation-hyperbole that I am a shill for Big Brother? 😄 Did you notice MSK's near complete failure to engage any of the 15 points I made yesterday, and instead he jumped immediately to slurs, cheap shots, and argumentum ad hominem?
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    Brant, Notice that, didja? I bet you're not the only one... Michael
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    Jonathan, I skimmed Diana Brickell's own feed a bit. (Like you, I hadn't seen it before.) Did you see the mountain of love she heaped upon the hoax lady (CB Ford) in the Justice Kavanaugh hearing? This is a direct quote (from here). Ah... the matters of the heart... She also said she's a supporter of Beto O'Rourke. Objectivism in action, that it is... Michael
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    Before and after memes can get quite cute: Michael
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    Peter, I don't know all that much about the Proud Buys, but I have listened to them being talked about (was it by someone on David Rubin or Joe Rogan? -- somewhere like that, and not just once). Going on what I have heard, apparently the Proud Boys came into being to protect Trump supporters at pro-Trump rallies or other anti-left gatherings like the Charlottesville thing to protest removing Civil War era statues of Confederate leaders. The Proud Boys are said to have been founded by Gavin McInnes, but I have also heard they were in existence before he got involved. Back when all this started, do you remember that some people, thugs, were being hired by the Democrats to start trouble at pro-Trump gatherings? Antifa joined in over time with gusto, carrying baseball bats. A group of people joined together, called themselves the Proud Boys, and basically said if these Antifa goons show up with baseball bats, they will encounter some serious resistance that punches back. They did, too. There are several videos I have seen where an Antifa goon(s) attacked someone who looked like a Proud Boy and got knocked on their ass. The anti-Trump press greatly favors Antifa and they have made up a lot of nasty shit about the Proud Boys, and it's so much shit that no one knows what is true or false anymore. Whenever there are rallies or voting or any event that looks like Antifa will show up, the Proud Boys tend to show up, too, to protect the gatherers. They are constantly goaded by Antifa and Antifa supporters, who found out that baseball bats give a poor press image, so they now use attack gloves, bicycle locks, fast-drying cement bricks, and anything else they can hide or or camouflage, but that draws blood. Anyway, whatever the reason, one or the other of the Proud Boys snapped a couple of times and got caught on tape pounding on an Antifarian goon with some serious pounding. The press went nuts even as they mostly ignored similar things on the other side like Antifa throwing camouflaged cement bricks at Andy Ngo and busting his head. There are so many stories like this, it's not funny. Notice Antifa goons wear masks and look like goons. The Proud Boys do not. Maybe the Proud Boys do some crazy shit now (I seriously don't know since I don't follow them), but if they do, they didn't start that way. To be frank, I don't trust anything the anti-Trump fake news media says about them (racist, incel, masturbation, etc.). This goes for Wikipedia, too. But I suspect I know why the press covers for Antifa. Whenever you see Antifa members without their ski masks on, you see they are generally white and upper class. (Not much diversity there.) So these Antifa goons may be the sons and daughters (and their friends) of serious power players among the establishment ruling class. Our fearless leaders are merely protecting their kids when their kids bloody up Trump supporters, and these fearless leaders will be goddamed if they will allow their sons and daughters to be humiliated in the press by photos and videos of them being knocked out with easy punches, even as they are armed with sundry devices like attack gloves and in goon uniform. Michael
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    No need for a new thread about this. The Antifa assholes never changed. Journalist Andy Ngo just got beat up by a group of masked Antifa thugs in Portland, Oregon, and he had to go to the hospital. According to the Portland Police, some of the milkshakes thrown at him contained quick-drying cement. In other words, they were like bricks. And this... And this... Here are a few facts from leftie Heavy. The rhetoric is pretty much slanted left, but the facts seem accurate. Andy Ngo Attacked: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know This is getting the attention of major Fox News talent (including Laura Ingraham) , so I imagine it will be all over the rest of the mainstream news later. The fake news media would probably not report this in ordinary circumstances, but there are pictures of actual blood circulating, so I don't think they will be able to help themselves. Michael
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    Just to be on record, ever since Project Veritas launched its report about Google, the video was removed from YouTube. I don't know if a reason was given by YouTube. But, in addition, the Project Veritas account was banned on Vimeo and Reddit for "hate." There is more, but those are the main ones. Michael
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    Starting in late July I pledge $100/mo to OL. I am quite capable of raising that if I read any more crap about how donating to OL grants anybody, including myself, any special status here. --Brant
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    On Infowars: Blacklist: MSM Ignores Project Veritas Bombshell Google Exposé And there follows screenshot evidence. It's quite a show. Another quote from the end. I believe it correctly states what most Trump supporters--and even some anti-Trumpers--think about all this. But there is someone who did notice. The Google lady busted in the video: This is not how I expected Monday to go! by Jen Gennai She doesn't like it when the crap lands on her. She cried foul because people decided to do this covertly. But when you listen to the video, she likes it when it lands on others, especially when Google does it covertly. At least she said this: Imprecise language? Heh... Well done? She should know... Michael
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    Those statistics are reasonably sound. But what of the causes? There is a hypothesis which I moderately subscribe to , to wit, the mating customs of Ashkenazim in Europe put a high value on males who mastered the intricacies of the Babylonian Talmud and the very strict reasoning of the Scholars, Rabbis and Sages. These bright young fellows had their pick of the women in the villages and shtetils. The matchmakers (marriages were arranged to advantage the families of the women who paid a bride prices for a good husband) would often pair up the brilliant young Talmud-Bucher with the daughter of the richest man in the Shtetel. It turns out this was a breeding program to make intelligent children (although the mechanisms of human biological inheritance were unknown at this time). Now contrast this with how Catholics arranged things. The best and the brightest sons were encouraged to go into the Priesthood where their opportunities for biological mating were .... limited..... So the Catholics were taking half of the gene pool for intelligence out of circulation. There you have a crude and semi-plausible account for why the Ashkenazim were "so smart". Also for cultural reasons every Jewish male was encouraged to become as learned as he could in matters of Talmud and Torah. The logic of and about the Talmud (and logic there was) was a kind of hybrid between inferential logic and inductive logic. It was, at its root Bayesian reasoning. To become an accomplished Talmud scholar of repute required decades of study. Jews have traditionally put a high premium on "being smart" and practical! It is just the thing one needs to survive in a hostile or potentially hostile environment. So in a strange way, the anti-Semites promoted the breeding of super-smart Jews. One had to have one's wits firmly attached to survive in that environment. Breeding programs of other sorts have emerged in the Asiatic nations. China is renowned for turning out its share (and more than their share) of very smart people. Some thousands of years ago China was several light years ahead of Europe in both abstract thinking and practical engineering. China, which has dumped Lenin and Marx for good old practical reasons is in the process of reclaiming its eminent position in the world of ideas and technology. Japan has also done well and in the smaller Asiatic nations as wells as Japan and China the "tiger-moms" who push their son's unmercifully is a known phenomena. There is a shortage of women in the Asiatic nations (sons are preferred to daughters for cultural reasons) so the brightest and most ambitious males are more likely to "score" in the reproductive struggle and competition. And so it goes. A combination of genetics and culture, in some cases, is an effective breeding program for intelligence. Ba'al Chatzaf --- a descendant of Abraham, if not in the flesh, then certainly in the spirit.
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    Michael, Nice, I see a tie-in there with what's going on now: a drawing is 'real' but not a real thing (it's a "representation" of what is real, or perhaps to be realized). That's what happens with words especially ones which hurt, and particularly online where you don't see the 'person' and physical reactions of one's respondents. So we get "sticks and stones .. but words will never hurt me". But they do, of course. To be kept in mind, certainly. The word-symbols i.o.w are unreal (abstract) and also 'real'. Goes for cyber-reality also . Keeping the connection is the trick. Like some of us wrt mechanical drawings who tend foremost to see the wheel- reality behind the representations, for whom wheel-drawings stand for the real thing, not e.g. a puzzle in geometry. Anyway, you got me on about something fascinating I've observed about different individuals. There was a 'literalness' about Rand, too - e.g. to her, visual art represented/recreates (as some artist's mind images it) the "real" - and should, or can only, be taken as such. As directly real as words, to her. Anyway thanks...
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    Wow, you have been on a roll Jon. No prob, Ive been told worse.
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    Jon, We disagree on this. But, once again, that's what we're here for. Humans disagree. I'm fine with disagreeing. (Most of the time. ) Michael
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    I don't agree that what Jon was doing is bullshit. I'm just now reading through it, and I'm having a good laugh at the skill of Jon's parody of Peter. Ellen
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    This is a side issue, but correcting your report of what happened: No one came to see Tony's lack of ability at mechanical reasoning as anything but lack of ability - or Merlin's outright intellectual fraud (on Wikipedia) combined with ineptitude as anything but chicanery combined with ineptitude. Maybe what you're referring to is Jonathan's commenting - I think this was on a different thread (the "Where are you?" thread) - that he enjoyed seeing how the mathematically inclined approached the problem. But Jonathan knew from the start that he isn't good at math skills, though he's excellent at mechanical visualization. Ellen
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    Just when I think he has "understood" the rules of civilized banter he proves me wrong, Jules. Though his last few forays in big game hunting have been better. At some point Michael may even think we will be laughing together, though still "Friars Club roasting" each other. Who knows? Now back to me being his father figure . . .
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    Transference [trans-fer´ens] in psychiatry, the unconscious tendency of a patient to assign to others in the present environment feelings and attitudes associated with significant persons in one's earlier life; especially, the patient's transfer to the therapist of feelings and attitudes associated with a parent or similar person from childhood. The feelings may be affectionate (positive transference), hostile (negative transference), or ambivalent. Sometimes the transference can be interpreted to help the patient understand childhood attitudes. end quote A person who transfers their personal feelings into an attack on another person, attributing what they are ashamed of, to that other person, is not a good characteristic and should not be condoned. Take each instance of name calling or slander and wonder, “Is that what they are really like?” Perhaps, Ellen Stuttle may be one person with an opinion on this, but anyone, please feel free to contribute. Peter
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    I agree Michael. One other point about being civil. A person may involuntarily cuss "in person" when that is normal group speak. You can't go back and edit "What the "F"" to your Army buddies. But when writing you can edit yourself before sending. To claim otherwise, is not logical. When I engage anyone in conversation online and it is not a personal message, I look at the "Activity" list for guidance. That is when I engage or not. If a person had no activity I would not engage. That is not stalking. On another list Azrael Rand wrote: Let me ask this question? If Ayn Rand were alive today and was able to keep up with the scientific discoveries of the day as well as current events do you believe she would have amended her philosophy to be consistent with its original premise based on the feedback given to her by reality or do you believe she would have stayed the course even up until today. I choose to believe in the former which is one of the reasons I believe in the concept of Open Objectivism. end quote What would Ayn Rand think of someone cussing, accusing, name calling, and being uncivil? I don't need to answer because it is obvious. Another line of thinking about that quote may be the subject of another thread. If she were still alive and writing, what would Rand change or expand upon? Peter
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    Jon, Thank you for the above post. That gives me a much better idea of the specifics of your views on "the Gang." I'll answer somewhat out of order. I think you're probably right about the "thousand points of light" as a "back-of-a-napkin estimate" of critical mass. I also think that Trump's managing to get elected President of the United States threw the calculations and assumptions into uproar. It was an election that shouldn't, that couldn't happen, so the Gang elites thought. But it did happen, and they're in a tizzy as to how to proceed now. Thinking over my "Doesn't everyone know it?" has led me into memory-lane explorings of when/how I began to think that there were groups attempting to engineer world events. A major suspicion arouser for me was a job I had for a year, late '70-late '71, working as secretary/research assistant on a study of foundations. The job workplace was at the Russell Sage Foundation. The Ford Foundation was much featured in the study. I hardly remember any details of the report that resulted, but I remember my increasing feeling of unsavory stuff going on, and much being "understood" which wasn't said. There, I'm agnostic. I think that there are coteries and alliances, but I'm doubtful that there's a central core leadership. That brings me to your statement: "I’ve never myself to my knowledge been anywhere near them or anyone who has gotten near them." I have been near persons who I think are among them, and not just in the United States, in Hungary and Vienna. I think that the people I encountered in Europe aren't under the leadership of American chiefs and are rather disdainful of American elites. I'm talking impressions, not something I know for fact. Maybe I'll learn more later this summer on a forthcoming Vienna trip. Ellen
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    When will charges be laid? It's been six years since she left office -- and there are no new criminal investigations underway or on order. Justice report slams James Comey's actions with FBI in Clinton email case William Barr, attorney general nominee, backs away from prior comments pushing Clinton Foundation investigation Russian Uranium One Deal And Hillary Clinton In The News Again The QAnon corps has been referring to an impending Clinton arrest since Day One of the hoax:
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    You can't because you don't produce anything useful... but I can because I do. My clients are other successful American Capitalist producers, all of whom price their products and services to reflect the cost of government just as I do. Since I produce more than I consume, what is a problem for you is not a problem for me. You have exactly zero knowledge about how much I produce or how useful it is. (shrug)So what? The American Capitalist way to rise above that is to produce your own home at a fraction of the cost of buying a new one from someone else who produces it for you. Then you get to enjoy the windfall profits of your own labor. This idea of becoming your own producer is totally foreign to you isn't it? And haven't you noticed yet? For every problem you have complained about I have offered a real world practical solution. But not just empty intellectual theory, but rather things I actually do myself. That's how I know they work. If you tried getting up off your ass, they might work for you, too. Greg Cost of heart surgery too high for you? Perform a by-pass on yourself for a fraction of the cost! It's the American Capitalist way! When government actions cause the price of a good to be so high that one must compensate by performing the labor oneself, then one's own labor is a cost one is not shifting forward but absorbing. Think of the savings that could be realized by building a four-door luxury sedan (or a two engine airplane) in your own garage on nights and weekends. Since nights and weekends have zero value for Americans, they'll be getting a brand new car (or plane or submarine) for less than factory cost! Capitalism arose out of the division of labor, not out of absolute autarky. You appear to be as well informed about economics as about the personal lives of your debate opponents. What is your "real world practical solution" to the cost of the welfare state? Have every soldier, firefighter and police officer unilaterally raise the price he charges to the consumer?
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    It's only fallacious for you, Frank. This is because you don't know the first thing about being a Capitalist producer. Everything you purchase has the complete cost of the government bureaucracy already included in it. Now this is a problem... but only for failures who don't produce anything useful. Produce something useful in your own Capitalist business and people throw money at you... especially when they're other Capitalist businessmen. The only way to enjoy your God given rights is to live a life deserving of them. And as long as you don't... ...you never will. Greg You evade the point: one cannot "immunize" himself from the welfare state simply by raising prices. High taxes converted to higher prices result in lower sales volume and thus lower profits. The federal excise tax nearly crippled the U.S. yacht industry in the early 1990's. The same is happening now to Europe's chemical industries as a result of "green" taxes. As for the question of usefulness, is a new home not "useful"? Yet new home sales are directly affected by the price of materials, which in turn are affected by taxation. Is a bus trip to see the grandchildren not "useful"? Yet high gasoline taxes can make travel unaffordable for many. When Congress raises the gas tax, is it acting on orders from God to keep Grandma from taking a trip she does not "deserve"?
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    As I said over on the five-minute phobia thread, you are using stolen concepts here. If empirical studies are as unreliable as you say, I have to wonder what you would consider good evidence and why that is better. How you would prove such a claim without empirical evidence is beyond me. In any case I did not say that controlled studies are "the only way" to gather information. In the passage you quoted I expressly mentioned that testimonials (about sentence-completion, for example) could be of some value. Speaking from an amateur literacy in the field, I should think that a good followup would include standardized tests, self-reports and interviews with duly blinded investigators, and maybe other techniques as well. As a matter of fact I've read several of Branden's books. The theoretical part was impressive. The exercises struck me the same way folk-dancing does: harmless fun if you're into it, but not for me.
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    No, everyone is just breathing a sigh of relief that there is no high-level obnoxiousness at that moment :-) Jim
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    That which I think has been most harmful to the Objectivist movement: Objectivists who think that Objectivism must be accepted in its entirety, that it is a perfect, integrated system, and that to disagree with any "essential" aspect of it is to reject Objectivism, and, therefore, to become an "enemy of Objectivism." This view seems to cause people to behave in self-limiting and self-destructive ways. It causes them to publicly declare things like, "If you're not purely Objectivist (as defined by us), we don't want you, we don't need you, so fuck off." (Attractive slogan, no?) Those who think that Objectivism must be accepted in its entirety often seem to think that it also must be promoted in its entirety, which means that formal educational programs must be the primary means of spreading Objectivist ideas. It seems that even conversations must come as close as possible to resembling a lecture: an Objectivist Crusader usually can't discuss, say, a current political event or a work of art without mentioning Objectivism, quoting Rand, quizzing his opponents on their knowledge of Objectivism, and making suggestions about how they might study Objectivism better. One can't "leave them hungry and begging for more" - one can't be clever and original in an argument, inspiring his opponents with new ideas and new ways of looking at things, and wait for them to ask what his intellectual influences were. No, in all intellectual discussions, a proper Objectivist Crusader must tie the issues and arguments to the whole of Objectivism immediately. In effect, he must change the subject of every conversation to Objectivism. (And from what I've seen, he must also lecture his opponents about Objectivism even after they've repeatedly told him that they are bored out of their freaking minds, no longer listening, and sick and tired of his intrusive, pompous, condescending behavior.) Since no two people will ever agree precisely on what is "essential" to Objectivism, I think that the "Objectivism must be accepted in its entirety" approach is a major cause of the movement's extreme sectarianism and sycophancy. Objectivists often seem to see everyone beyond their insular little cliques as attacking Rand and Objectivism (even strictly personal conflicts are treated as attacks on Objectivism). The movement is full of petty, abusive and manipulative behavior, lies, "airbrushing," public excommunications, denouncements and betrayals -- usually over minor, esoteric differences or purely personal issues -- and ridiculously overblown senses of self-righteousness and self-importance. All of it very public, all of it in the name of "defending" Objectivism, and all of it seen as highly heroic only by those indulging in it. J PS - This (which I've posted elsewhere a few times) is what I think that radio commercials would sound like if businesses borrowed the Objectivist movement's theory of marketing: "The McDonald's on 3rd and Maple is evil. They don't understand or practice the true McDonald's methods and recipes. They are false friends of McDonald's. For one thing, they don't correctly arrange the reconstituted onions on their Big Macs. And their Special Sauce applicator is totally inconsistent. Sometimes the amount of sauce it squirts out is too much or too little by up to 8 percent! If you want a ~real~ Big Mac, eat at our McDonald's out on Highway 18. We are the only true defenders of Ray Kroc's vision. Be forewarned that before ordering, we will expect you to sign an oath that you will never eat at the evil 3rd and Maple McDonald's. They are piece of shit lying scumbag fuckheads who are trying to destroy the purity of of the McDonald's name. We will not sanction your sanctioning them."