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  2. caroljane

    World Cup 2018

    Yes! Men and Women in Suits, elected leaders of their countries, getting rained on like losers, which only one of them was, while the host gets 4 umbrellas, Vlad's good friend Trump must have laughed his ample you know what off about this, especially when that overweight woman whose country lost the game got her country's team jersey drenched. And Macron's wife will be furious his new Armani is now ruined! It was a great game actually and the rain must have been a relief to the exhausted players. I watched it at my son's place and regret to say that his friends made sport of the one-umbrella -3 leaders situation, if USA had made the final. Their odds were that POTUS would have elbowed the fat lady out of the way to get his hair under shelter.
  3. What would Ayn Rand think of the MeToo Movement? Everybody knows what the MeToo movement is. It started not too long ago after some high profile celebrity cases of sexual abuse against women resulted in penalties for the accused (except for Bill Clinton, of course). I got to thinking... the rape scene in The Fountainhead has always caused a lot of cognitive dissonance in O-Land, especially Rand's "rape by engraved invitation" quip. I've also been reading Rand's Journals (as part of my fiction writing studies). As I was reading, suddenly I blinked my eyes. I couldn't believe what I just read. Does anyone know what Rand's original image of Dominique Francon was? A priestess... That's right... A priestess... Rand said it several times. But the last time made me think of the MeToo movement. Here are Rand's words for this last time. She is talking about Howard Roark and this quote is in her notes to herself before she wrote the book. Hmmmm... "Were it necessary, he could rape her and feel perfectly justified." He did! He did! "Without great concern for the question of whether she wants it," at that. Well... There we have it, then... I guess Ayn Rand would not have been good material for the MeToo movement. Michael
  4. caroljane

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    Good idea! Chewing on ideas is way better for the canines and the incisors both.
  5. Michael Stuart Kelly

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    Carol, You wouldn't be referring to when I compared the corrupt epistemology of the modern progressive mob mentality when they make a zealous attack on innocent people to the mob mentality of the KKK holding a trial before hanging a black man, or the mob mentality of Islamist fanatics judging a homosexual before throwing him off a building, would you? I mean, come on. The analogies work. The mob mentality, the savage attack on innocents, the pretense at rational judgment, the covering of heads with masks of the henchmen, and the corrupt epistemology are pretty much the same in all cases. What could possibly be there to object to? (smiling innocently ) I appreciate the offer, but I'm not competing and, besides, I don't chew Bubble gum. Michael
  6. caroljane

    lecture about fasting by Dr. Alan Goldhamer

    I understand your stance. The restaurant owner two doors up did not trust the government to evaluate electrcians for her, hired her talented student nephew using her own best judgment to wire the place.,and she is still in the hospital. True story! Just an anecdotal aside but true. No universalizing going on here.
  7. I evaluate doctors for myself, not for others. I don't need status. This is the Objectivist virtue of intellectual independence. I do not let government evaluate doctors for me.
  8. Nobody said fasting is a panacea. I don't know where that idea came from. You assume without evidence that Alan Goldhamer knows ONLY chiropractic. Alan Goldhamer probably knows more about fasting than anyone else on the planet. (Loren Lockman might disagree.) Supervising fasts is a specialization. So far as I know there is no government recognised qualification to be a fasting supervisor. Having an MD is not a qualification to supervise fasts. Most MDs know little or nothing about fasting. Typically they do not study fasting in medical school, and typically they have no experience with fasting. To be qualified to supervise fasts, they must go thru internship. One example of how ignorant an MD can be about fasting is one wrote that the body can't tell the difference between voluntary and involuntary, and he used this to debunk fasting. The difference between fasting and starving has nothing to do with voluntary. The body certainly can tell the difference between burning fat and burning muscle. Do not use examples of starvation to debunk fasting. That is gross ignorance. I am not impressed by that kind of ignorance. With a little effort you can learn the difference between fasting and starving. At the risk of oversimplification, the difference is the difference between burning fat and burning muscle. They are very different and they feel different. Usually when the body is in fat burning mode, there is no hunger. When the fat runs low and there is danger of burning muscle, hunger comes back. About Loren Lockman. Do not confuse between him and Alan Goldhamer. They are 2 different individuals. They have disagreements between them about how to supervise fasts. Do not judge one by the other. Loren Lockman is a risk taker. He says symptoms are ALWAYS either healing or detox, which I don't believe. That attitude would scare me. There is a story from Steve Solomon about a man went into signs of mineral deficiency as early as the 10th day. So Dr. Moser and Steve Solomon immediately took him off the fast and fed him the greenest veggies in Steve Solomon's garden. (The greener the veggy the richer it is in minerals.) If Loren Lockman had been on that case, he would have regarded the symptoms as either healing or detox and would have continued the fast and the result would have been a disaster. Symptoms are -usually- healing or detox, but not always. One of the duties of the fasting supervisor to be be alert to real problems. Some people have health problems that can show up during a fast. I don't think Loren Lockman does it right. Every fast I ever did was without supervision and I always had a rule for myself, if anything goes wrong I terminate the fast. Fasting is not supernatural and I don't know where this stupid idea came from. Perhaps it came from Franklin Hall. You can look him up. Franklin Hall was a religious leader who thought fasting gives you a better telephone connection with God. But I don't believe in God and I have no use for religion. Fasting is simply total rest. There is nothing supernatural about total rest. It is almost a law of physiology that when 2 major physiological processes are happening at the same time, there is a trade-off between them. Each is at the expense of the other. Fasting, properly done, merely puts the body in full healing mode. Sometimes things happen that seem almost supernatural but it is not. There is a story about a blind man who got back his sight during a fast. When all of the body's energy is used for healing, sometimes unusual things happen. But it is not supernatural; it is physiology. About my spinal cord tumor. I'm learning all the time. I made some very serious mistakes in years past; but I'm no longer making them. The fat lady is not singing yet. If I beat the tumor, I will have bragging rights because the medical profession says it can't be done.
  9. caroljane

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    Hey hold on, I never said or thought the one way you were using them, was the only way of using of analogy or metaphor! I have way too much respect for language than to think in those terms.. But the one way you were using them, yes I did object to. As to trivial gotchas, I will likely continue to overuse them, and cannot be bothered to keep track, so you can take all my Bubblemiles and declare yourself the rightful winner. No harm no foul. IOTE , I actually did read it --so long ago that my impression of it is so overlaid with my own commentary, sort of like trying to attend yeshiva again at approximately the age of Methusaleh - I could say I would read it again, but I would be lying. I will just apologize for previous errors of interpretation, try to correct where I am in error, and stumble along in my own version of awefullnes, while respecting yours.
  10. caroljane

    lecture about fasting by Dr. Alan Goldhamer

    Doctors everywhere are grateful that you have no status to evaluate them at all. Doctors of chiropractic, philosophy,dentistry, law and many others will all rema8n happy to take your money.
  11. I don't evaluate doctors by government approved credentials.
  12. caroljane

    lecture about fasting by Dr. Alan Goldhamer

    Probably he could, starting with John the Baptist and Jesus and ending up with concentration camp inmates and up-to=the minute anorexics like Lily-Rose Depp and Angelina Jolie, but I am pre-empting him because he has been toting the weary load of trying to speak to you reasonably and needs a respite, he is a friend of mine.
  13. william.scherk

    lecture about fasting by Dr. Alan Goldhamer

    Fasting cure cancer breakthrough in chiropractic whoopee ... What is your point? Do you have a point? It is a point of information, for readers. At his clinic, he says that all of his fasts are 'medically supervised,' which is great. He himself is trained solely as a chiropractor. There are several MDs advertised as being affiliated with or on his staff at his business, along with what one might expect -- naturopaths, osteopaths, massage therapists and so on. Here is an excerpt from his website on 'informed consent. Emphases in the original. First, TrueNorth Health is not a hospital or medical care facility with a staff of doctors, nurses, etc. It is a health education program, where participants can reside for a short period of time while participating in its programs. TrueNorth Health has independent doctors of chiropractic, two medical doctors, and a psychologist who assist in its programs. (For more information on TrueNorth Health and its affiliated healthcare providers, please see our website or brochure.) Please be clear that if you have any problems with the fact that TrueNorth Health is not a hospital or a medical care facility, then you should not undergo a water-only fast at TrueNorth. TrueNorth Health also compiles medical data obtained from its participants, analyzes this data, and publishes articles regarding this data and research in scientific journals. These articles do not reveal the identities of any of the participants, but rather only identifies, summarizes and analyzes the medical data. If, for some reason, you have any problem with the fact that TrueNorth Health compiles data based upon your medical information, and publishes that data in scientific journals, then you should not undergo a water-only fast at TrueNorth Health. Next, you should be clear that chiropractors will be assisting you during your fast. These doctors of chiropractic are not medical doctors. There is a medical doctor who is affiliated with TrueNorth, but you will probably be seeing chiropractors much more than this medical doctor. These chiropractors will have access to your medical records, and the medical doctor will be discussing your case with them. If you have any problems with the fact that chiropractors will be assisting you throughout the majority of your water fast, then you should not undergo a water-only fast at TrueNorth. -- of course "publishes that data in scientific journals" is enticing. Which ones? And who publishes? Actually, not him. One of the MDs associated with him has published at least one review article in a medical journal (Cell) which is pretty interesting, but come nowhere near to supporting the claims made by, say, the video at the top. Sure, the guy who fled to Central America. Whatsisname? Loren Lockman. Jerry, fasting is not a panacea, nor -- within reason -- is it terminal, deadly. I object to valorizing a chiropractor -- especially one who overlards the goose. I wish I could do something to help you past your obsession with fixing your body by supernatural natural means. Your condition (the inoperable mass on your spinal column) has to be a burden on you, and for that you have my fellow-feeling.
  14. caroljane

    lecture about fasting by Dr. Alan Goldhamer

    Oh yes? I did not lknow Chiros were licensed to treat terminal patients dying of all known causes let alone bring them back to life! Think what a burden they must all be on the health care system. This must be looked into.
  15. What is your point? Do you have a point? Can you tell me the name of someone who has more knowledge about fasting and more experience in fasting than Alan Goldhamer?
  16. Michael Stuart Kelly

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    Carol, And to pretend that this is the only use of analogy and metaphor is, well, surfing without a wave. btw - Does overuse of trivial gotchas as validation of one-sided agreed upon fact within a bubble? I never see you complain about them. Anyhoo, if you ever get around to reading ITOE, look up the part about "abstracting from abstractions." When you do that, what do you think you are doing if not using metaphors? Thinking outside the box or donning a mental straight-jacket or something? Also, I suggest at least looking online at a book like Lakoff's before trying to blank out his ideas from existence. He's a flaming leftie, but this is a good book. This book, in fact, is one of the classics of modern understanding of how the mind works. Just a suggestion. But I understand if you don't take it. I wouldn't want to interrupt your awe of yourself session. That's a sacred moment. Michael
  17. Jonathan

    Donald Trump

    The left's TDS has them eating their own: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-senate-feinstein-de-leon-endorsement-20180714-story.html J
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  19. william.scherk

    lecture about fasting by Dr. Alan Goldhamer

    The "Doctor" at True North ... is a DC. Doctor of Chiropractic.
  20. caroljane

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    Damn!, I mean holy galt. A vision came to me, clear as day, of my favourite classic movie, Airplane, and its soul-stirring last line, "Let's get started. Somebody's got to rebuild Rio de Janiero! And immediately I heard a harsh, stern and authoritative voice saying, "Never mind Rio de wherever,Somebody's got to rebuild Epistemology." What can it mean? I'm way late to Damascus aa it is, I don't need this! Awed. Carol
  21. caroljane

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    I have not looked it up but it occurred to my ancient memory that the original meaning of "begging the question" may have been the term I was thinking of - meaning, to forcefully state a position, then build upon it to make an argument which was not challenged by the other side. If said memory is faulty I will stand corrected. ie expecting rhetorical questions to be answered, etc.
  22. caroljane

    After the Apocalypse, Try Reason!

    Your key phrase here of the quote is "building blocks", and I love stories as much as the next person. But playing Legos with apples and oranges can get, well, rotten. The above I apologize for , for being a sketchy metaphor, because I for my own part am tired of the often-inappropriate use of metaphor and analogy to repeat one side of a discussion as an agreed fact. It is a sketchy metaphor for some debate tactic which has holes in it. I forget the name of the tactic but there is something logically wrong with it.
  23. Brant Gaede

    Ayn Rand And The End Of Love

    I agree with number 6. --Brant
  24. Jonathan

    Donald Trump

    No. When playing gotcha, as we see here, the idea is to pretend not to understand what people mean when using a term, and to then substitute one's own alternate definition/meaning, and then to claim that someone is being hypocritical by that alternate definition/meaning. "Trump's against the elites? Well, by the definition that I just chose, and not by the same one that Trump is using, he is an elite! Hahahaha! Gotcha!" Ineffective semantic game. Childish tactic. C'mon. You guys know better than this. Well, maybe not Merlin. He's shown himself to be rather lacking in the brain department lately. But, Billy? He's got a case of TDS, but hasn't shown any signs of Merlin-type retardation. He can do better. J
  25. Jonathan

    Donald Trump

    Oh noes! If your friend had a dream, then that must be what's going to happen! J
  26. Michael Stuart Kelly

    Donald Trump

    For the record, the elites of the European Union are elitists and globalists of the sort I talk about above. Michael
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