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For a ground-floor view of the phenomena of QAnon ... including the gestation of 'Watkins-Q-kun':


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Credence and interest in the QAnon phenomena  

3 members have voted

  1. 1. Which choice best represents your interest in the QAnon phenomenon

    • Uninterested
      2
    • Interested, but skeptical
      1
    • I already know what I know
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    • None of your business. I don't declare my interests
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    • "Don't bother to examine a folly ... "
      0
    • I'd be interested in an objective analysis of the phenomena
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    • I will explain everything in a guest post here, if given the opportunity
      0

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  • Poll closed on 12/02/2018 at 02:32 AM

I'd like to open a field of discussion for the QAnon phenomena.  Here is where I will post in already existing material presented at OL by members.  I'll take direction from comments and from poll answers. 

  • What is Q / QAnon?
  • Why should anyone on OL pay attention?
  • Is skepticism justified?
  • What are the main questions readers have in mind to guide discussion?

No special rules or guidelines for this thread; the OL guidelines are good enough and will apply here. .  Please keep personal abuse to a minimum. Creative insults are kosher, but if they aren't on topic, why post them?

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Our forum leader opened discussion on the phenomena back in January of this year.  My key-word search-term was "QAnon,"  not "Q," so the search results will not necessarily return all incidence of discussion touching on the phenomena.

On 1/3/2018 at 4:10 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

[...] If you really want to go down a Rabbit Hole where anti-deep state magic happens for real, look into "QAnon."

I will post a thing about him later, probably in a new thread or on the Conspiracy Theory thread. He's been spot on accurate predicting a lot of recent happenings right before they happen. More recently he's been doing some twittering and he seems to like hamming it up a bit, so here are a few teasers:

 

And this:

 

 

And this:

 

 

And this:

 

 

:)

 

More coming...

 

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From our QAnon-involved Travis View ...

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Q tries to prove itself, QAnon is featured on a procedural drama, and Q gets upstaged by a rando anon
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In the early ’90s, I believed I knew the secret to free candy. And that secret was Tootsie Pop wrappers that included an image of a Native American man aiming an arrow at a star. Other kids my age may or may to not have known, but my friends and I were certain that the star wrappers were significant and rare. Specifically, star wrappers were significant because each one could be swapped for a free Tootsie Pops, so I thought. And they were rare because, well, they’re free candy tickets. So why wouldn’t they be rare?

I bought into the idea unquestioningly, despite never trading a star-printed wrapper for more candy myself. I never even witnessed anyone do it. But I knew that those wrappers were candy currency.

 

It was just intuitively obvious. The other images on the wrapper showed kids playing sports. The image of the man wearing a full feather headdress aiming at a star didn’t match the others. It sticks out. It must have a special meaning.

[...]

 

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Wrapping up the week's unbelievably meaningful set of Q droppings.

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-- the most exciting of the droppings is #2909, but you have to click the image through to 8chan to catch the full grandeur of the discussion that ensued..

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3 hours ago, william.scherk said:

For the Objectivist in you ... a look at suggestions that QAnon is a fraud:

William,

What does that have to do with "the Objectivist in you"?

Are you an Objectivist? Do you even know what an Objectivist is?

Or are you the equivalent of a Democrat telling a Republican how to be a better Republican?

Michael

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20 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
On 2/28/2019 at 11:59 AM, william.scherk said:

For the Objectivist in you ... a look at suggestions that QAnon is a fraud:

What does that have to do with "the Objectivist in you"?

I am dangling a lure. It could appeal to a few readers. It could appeal to those who maintain a tool-kit of Objectivist principles -- and want to further investigate this controversial topic and its entailments.  "For the XYZ in you" is a common trope.

"If independent thinking is the major frame, then working through ideas is a messy experience, not a neat and tidy one commanded from on high. And OL is a place where we foster independent thinking. What's the use of truth if you have to blind part of your mind to see it? So messy it is--within reason, of course."

20 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Are you an Objectivist? Do you even know what an Objectivist is?

Or are you the equivalent of a Democrat telling a Republican how to be a better Republican?

No. Yes. No. 

If somebody doesn't want to explore material at the link above, fair dinkum. Evaluating suggestions that QAnon is a fraud can take a few routes and follow various investigative methods -- according with one's personal ethics. 

'The primary virtue in Objectivist ethics is rationality, as Rand meant it -- "the recognition and acceptance of reason as one's only source of knowledge, one's only judge of values and one's only guide to action."' 

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Sound File |  Text to Speech version: http://bit.ly/AudioTextQAnon01

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3 hours ago, william.scherk said:

I am dangling a lure. It could appeal to a few readers. It could appeal to those who maintain a tool-kit of Objectivist principles

William,

It's so weird seeing you deal out blatant covert manipulation to the plebes, vesting a robe of Objectivist qua Objectivist sanctimony, and then indicate you want to be taken seriously.

It reminds me of the expression of sincerity on the face of a chihuahua howling along to a recording of an opera aria.

:) 

Michael

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So, we are metaphorical fish?

That Rand quotation about reason is great but literally wrong while being mostly right.

--Brant

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1 hour ago, Brant Gaede said:

So, we are metaphorical fish?

Brant,

Definitely not human.

Shows to go ya', people like William literally don't know what an Objectivist is, although some lie to themselves and think they do. 

They do what so many people in our gaslighted society do these days. They make up a story in their heads (to be more precise, borrow one from their tribe's zeitgeist), cast it with cartoon characters, then go out into the world treating real people like the cartoons in their heads to make themselves feel good.

The fundamental part of their Objectivism cartoon is that Objectivists are not bright, but they try to be sincere, so one can choke them on hypocrisy, then laugh at their efforts to remain serious. 

It's a worn out mindgame, but it still gets traction among the diehards.

After all, cartoons are fun...

:) 

Michael

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The power of reality trump's, no pun intended, the power of ideology but Rand had the bulldozer of certainty.

---Brant

 

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1 hour ago, Brant Gaede said:

The power of reality trump's, no pun intended, the power of ideology but Rand had the bulldozer of certainty.

---Brant

 

Brant,

Certainty is a prerequisite of faith.

If, for example, I wanted to get people to believe that science has proven that humans cause global warming, I would start with certainty. And when the science went a fudgin', I would dig in and lade on the certainty.

It's impressive how big a following I would be able to get.

:) 

(btw - We can call this "Chocolate Science." Pure fudge. :) )

Michael

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Important to Remember:
POTUS already ordered the DECLAS (per Q-proof Sep 17).
He's awaiting the DOJ IG (now Barr + OIG) to proceed w/ the order. 
Optics are important.
Delay by design post order to DECLAS?
Tactics?
Benefits?
[RR]
[Ohr]
Q

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Young Mike Rothschild has a thing about Q.  Q has a thing about Trump. Why won't anyone ask Trump about Q?

What are they waiting for?  Sarah Sanders has already dealt with  the issue ...

Q is going to 'force' this one. Bwahahahaha ...

 

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15 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Q is going to 'force' this one. Bwahahahaha ...

Don't worry.

Q critics to the rescue.

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Michael

 

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand... it looks like they fixed it. :) 

 

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Getting caught up.

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-- we may have a celebration here once I post the 3000th QAnon dropping.

-- while we wait, a side-track with young Mike Rothschild:

 

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This was a very big week in Q activity.  A best-selling book, and a very exciting set of predictions!

PEOPLE ARE PAWNS IN THEIR SICK GAME OF GLOBAL DOMINATION. 
PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED TO PREVENT A RISING OF THE PEOPLE.
PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED AND TAUGHT TO FIGHT THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF THE RULING CLASS.
RACE VS RACE
RELIGION VS RELIGION
POLITICAL VS POLITICAL 
CLASS VS CLASS
SEX VS SEX
WHEN YOU ARE DIVIDED, YOU ARE WEAK.
WHEN YOU ARE WEAK, YOU HAVE NO POWER.
WHEN YOU HAVE NO POWER, YOU HAVE NO CONTROL.
STAY STRONG, PATRIOTS.
STAY UNITED, NOT DIVIDED.
YOU ARE WHAT MATTERS.
YOU, AWAKE, IS THEIR GREATEST FEAR. 
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