"In the matter of Q"

Credence and interest in the QAnon phenomena  

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  1. 1. Which choice best represents your interest in the QAnon phenomenon

    • Uninterested
      2
    • Interested, but skeptical
      1
    • I already know what I know
      0
    • None of your business. I don't declare my interests
      0
    • "Don't bother to examine a folly ... "
      0
    • I'd be interested in an objective analysis of the phenomena
      0
    • I will explain everything in a guest post here, if given the opportunity
      0

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  • Poll closed on 12/02/2018 at 02:32 AM

I'd like to open a field of discussion for the QAnon phenomena.  Here is where I will post in already existing material presented at OL by members.  I'll take direction from comments and from poll answers. 

  • What is Q / QAnon?
  • Why should anyone on OL pay attention?
  • Is skepticism justified?
  • What are the main questions readers have in mind to guide discussion?

No special rules or guidelines for this thread; the OL guidelines are good enough and will apply here. .  Please keep personal abuse to a minimum. Creative insults are kosher, but if they aren't on topic, why post them?

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Our forum leader opened discussion on the phenomena back in January of this year.  My key-word search-term was "QAnon,"  not "Q," so the search results will not necessarily return all incidence of discussion touching on the phenomena.

On 1/3/2018 at 4:10 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

[...] If you really want to go down a Rabbit Hole where anti-deep state magic happens for real, look into "QAnon."

I will post a thing about him later, probably in a new thread or on the Conspiracy Theory thread. He's been spot on accurate predicting a lot of recent happenings right before they happen. More recently he's been doing some twittering and he seems to like hamming it up a bit, so here are a few teasers:

 

And this:

 

 

And this:

 

 

And this:

 

 

:)

 

More coming...

 



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There seems to be a mental barrier to participation here, but I think it fair to link to "parallel" commentary.

When I posted the entry's poll originally, I chose the 'Australian ballot' option, and I also chose an end-date for the poll. In other words, I haven't touched the poll since I instantiated it.  In fact, as far as I can tell, there is no way to even get into the poll to either remove or extend its end date. It's done.  Next to nobody is (apparently) interested anyway.

Jon, if you are reading this, you are free to post here, if you can hew to the Objectivist Living guidelines, quoted below.  Just about everyone here has different 'voices' and 'tones' depending on topic, circumstances, mood, etcetera ... but a kind of implacable, incorrigilbe Greg Mamishian assholism degrades discussion, in my opinion.  I don't want it here at Friends and Foes.  I don't believe extended personal abuse and insult is necessary to rubbish a person's argument. You, Jon, make your choices according to your personal morality.

(as for Ellen, I am quite fond of her, her doggedness -- and her wealth of reporting and  insight into Ayn Rand, the New York Objectivist 'scene' back in the day.  She has informed opinions on issues of mutual interest, a unique voice and perspective. 

I made a bad interpersonal error of judgement when we were discussing Stephen Hawking, coming close to one-half a Mamishian in tone and accusatory insinuations. I regretted it, apologized for it, and accept that she will not likely ever enter into discussion with me on any substantive issue going forward. It's what happens when one gets carried along by Assholism and does not foresee the damage one can do to human relationships.)

On what evidence can anyone conclude that QAnon offered the demoted and reprimanded police officer a job with the FBI or CIA -- or that he or she or they-Q has any means to 'fast-track' an application?  "Your name has been entered to be fast-tracked."  Oh, really?

The bolded question in Jon's comment is .... If we get news he’s hired what will that mean?

 

Here Jon Letendre refers to Liz Crokin, who has  had lost her social media account at Twitter because she cannot stop making wild accusations of supposed satanic cult sex crimes against children.  As I have written before, there are no more disgusting crimes than abuse of innocence or maltreatment in the form of child sexual abuse; it is revolting and almost certain to provoke a violent antipathy and urge to punish and separate the perpetrators from normal society. 

But, having been a researcher and activist during the Memory Wars and the last Satanic Panic -- I realize as most folks do, that hysterical moral panic unchecked can lead to grave injustices (from the Memphis Three to the Kellers).  The taint of an accusation of such disgusting crimes is much stronger than an accusation that someone is, say, a "lying, deranged leftist scumbag," or "suffering from an undiagnosed mood disorder," or "a psychotic bullying fuckhead."

Jon may or may not detail these supposed 'dozens' of 'proven pedophiles.'  Of course, harbouring a desire to sexually abuse a child is one thing.  If I harboured a desire to crush someones skull in a wine-press, or draw and quarter someone else, or bully a child unto suicide, or to usher The Joo into a revivified Holocaust Easy-Bake Oven... it is a thoughtcrime, at best,  a sign of mental illness, brain injury or tumor at the worst. I find all justifications of sex with children to be wholly without merit, a convenient self-exculpatory dodge and a sign of self-deception.  

The problem with Crokin as I see it is and was that she styles herself investigator, accuser and judge. A hanging judge.

 

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10 minutes ago, Jules Troy said:

I guess those rules no longer apply on OL.  Or is being called a cunt now acceptable.

Jules,

That's my domain.

I tend to be flexible with long-term members.

But there are fixes. For example, William has a safe space over here on his blog just like they do on college campuses.

Would you like a safe space, too?

I mean, among regulars, we have room for both the boisterous and the snowflakes.

:evil:  :) 

Michael

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3 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Jules,

That's my domain.

I tend to be flexible with long-term members.

But there are fixes. For example, William has a safe space over here on his blog just like they do on college campuses.

Would you like a safe space, too?

I mean, among regulars, we have room for both the boisterous and the snowflakes.

:evil:  :) 

Michael

No need I’ve got my bigboy pants on see? 👖 

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12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Jules,

That's my domain.

I tend to be flexible with long-term members.

But there are fixes. For example, William has a safe space over here on his blog just like they do on college campuses.

Would you like a safe space, too?

I mean, among regulars, we have room for both the boisterous and the snowflakes.

:evil:  :) 

Michael

It's not about "boisterous" or "snowflakes", it's not about "strong" or "weak".  That dichotomy is barbarism.  There will always be a portion of society that will try to use primitive tactics and actions to try to gain advantage over others.  It's your forum, you choose to allow or not allow whatever behavior.  Civility exists, but for it to exist there has to be rules and those rules enforced, otherwise the barbaric will have their way.  The rational and moral will be impacted by the "strong" and those who seek superiority over others.  Perhaps the rational and moral will seek out "safe spaces"---as what it is currently being called here on OL---if the behavior of others is primitive and aggressive.  But like you've said before, you pay the bills here on OL.  I'm just one of those long-term members.

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13 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said:

It's not about "boisterous" or "snowflakes", it's not about "strong" or "weak".  That dichotomy is barbarism.

So, you're calling MSK a barbarian. Not very civil. Not polite.

 

14 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said:

Civility exists, but for it to exist there has to be rules and those rules enforced, otherwise the barbaric will have their way.

Name-calling! That doesn't fit with your call for civility. Practice what you preach.

 

18 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said:

The rational and moral will be impacted by the "strong" and those who seek superiority over others.

You're assigning others evil motives. That's not polite or civil.

 

16 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said:

Perhaps the rational and moral will seek out "safe spaces"---as what it is currently being called here on OL---if the behavior of others is primitive and aggressive.

Stop attacking people with smears and name-calling! That's against the rules here.

MSK, please protect OL! Korben is being uncivil and impolite. Please use your ownership powers to make him stop upsetting me.

Whaaah! Booo hooo hooo!

J

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