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Argument on the Rocks

Fresh from today's headlines -- or rather, fresh from Today's front porch at Objectivist Living.

Brief audio introduction to the issues [TBRecorded]

4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
6 hours ago, turkeyfoot said:

Michael,

If we're at the point where National Enquirer can be taken seriously, there isnt anything Trump can do that can save the country. Shades of Herman Cain. Just how does one prove something didnt happen?

Geoff,

You mean like stealing votes?

:)

That's the kind of integrity you are looking for in a president?

:) 

Michael

Word People ploys, number 16 and 7 -- spins on "If I understand your points correctly." The double ploy depends on the operation of Compare and Contrast. What is being compared?  To answer that question, one needs to understand the basic ploy parameters of the fallacious reasoning -- in informal English it is known as The Old Switcheroo.

In this case, what is being swapped out are words denoted by Turkeyfoot.  More specifically, Integrity.

First step to analysis is to listen to the entire TF comment with an aim to understanding and restating his argument or point or points.  Here is the audio: 

 

6 hours ago, turkeyfoot said:

Thats the kind of integrity I look for in a president! ha

Trump: “Ted Cruz’s problem with the National Enquirer is his and his alone, and while they were right about O.J. Simpson, John Edwards, and many others, I certainly hope they are not right about Lyin’ Ted Cruz.”Thats the kind of integrity I look for in a president! ha

Not comes ... discussion points ... about integrity?

6 hours ago, turkeyfoot said:

"The Pulitzer Prize Board declared the tabloid eligible for journalism’s most prestigious prize in 2010 after it broke the news that presidential candidate  John Edwards had fathered a daughter out of wedlock with a campaign staffer. "

In other news.

1. Supreme Court Justice Scalia — Murdered By A Hooker

2. CLINTON SEX ROMP CAUGHT ON VIDEO!

3. ‘Family Man’ Marco Rubio’s Love Child Stunner!

4. Jeb Bush Snorted Cocaine On Night His Dad Became President!

5. HILLARY CLINTON LESBIAN LOVERS NAMED IN SECRET EMAILS

Let's listen to Donald Trump's explanation:

And here is Peter extemporizing with Ellen Stuttle:

Verbatim:

3 hours ago, Peter said:

Ellen wrote: . . ."and I'm afraid his latest (his remark about Cruz's wife) might have gone beyond a limit where he'll alienate people formerly inclined to overlook his crudities for the sake of the prospect of his potentially being able to defeat Hillary Clinton and get some action going toward braking the direction things have been going in this country. " End quote.

I know many people, myself included, can be accused of trying to be witty but end up just being crude. But we are not running to be the Republican Presidential prospect. 

I praise you Ellen for being concise and accurate. I am one of those people who passionately wants to change the direction the county is taking. Yet, I am appalled at the direction the Republican Primary is taking with Trump. First it was Rubio, and now Cruz is occasionally vulgar and has stopped sounding consistently Presidential. They are falling for Trump’s (apparent) strategy and damaging their own reputations.

So, at what point will I rather have Hillary as President? Never. But I am becoming repulsed and ALARMED by Donald Trump’s personality and thinking.

 

I worry that the press will be rushing in like they do after a bombing to film and document the latest Trump atrocity as President. I have a question for everyone reading this. He is an experienced communicator. What went wrong? What is wrong with Donald Trump? I don’t mean his crudity, but what is wrong with his decision making ability? Would he be dangerous as President? I think more so, with each passing day. Trump seems to be like a sullen, brooding, bullying, violent juvenile.

Now listen to the approach taken by one discussant. Note the pitfalls of truncation:

 

I will add a tag here, and somehow jam all this material into a seven-minute podcast. I am thinking of committing the first sin of podcasting again -- over-exhuberance in choosing sound tracks. In this case I am going to give into the thrill of danger, and summon up a new Horror ambiance.



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It didn't get any better. Two parts of further commentary today at Objectivist Living. The perils identified above are in play ... leading with part one:

Part two ...

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