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Reading lists, go-to books, Amazon wishes, new on the block editions: MSK and William's recommended books about conspiracy theories ... make perfect Judeo-Christmas non-altruistic gifts! 'Tis the Season (of Reason). From the blurb of Suspicious Minds:

"We’re all conspiracy theorists. Some of us just hide it better than others.

Conspiracy theorists do not wear tin-foil hats (for the most part). They are not just a few kooks lurking on the paranoid fringes of society with bizarre ideas about shape-shifting reptilian aliens running society in secret. They walk among us. They are us. Everyone loves a good conspiracy. Yet conspiracy theories are not a recent invention. And they are not always a harmless curiosity. In Suspicious Minds, Rob Brotherton explores the history and consequences of conspiracism, and delves into the research that offers insights into why so many of us are drawn to implausible, unproven and un-provable conspiracy theories. They resonate with some of our brain’s built-in quirks and foibles, and tap into some of our deepest desires, fears, and assumptions about the world."

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Reading: "Suspicious Minds: Why We Believe Conspiracy Theories"


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I want to recommend a book I just started reading last night: "Suspicious Minds," by Rob Brotherton. As is usual, I read first the chapter that stuck out -- Chapter 5, The Paranoid Fringe. It takes a useful critical look at the seminal article by Richard Hofstadter -- "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" -- and also runs to ground a plausible origin of 'tinfoil hats.' 

The book is written in a wry conversational tone, and is not on the surface a ''scholarly" read thick with endless footnotes, but it also contains a very useful reference list by page number -- as well as a full index at the back.  (My copy is from our local library, but I am going to order it from Amazon so I always have it on hand as a reference book.)

Here is an excerpt from the first page that might whet OLer's appetite for more ...

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In a fit of recursion, I include this bit of commentary from earlier this month. It suggests that I am bound by ingrained prejudice/s, which may or may not be true ... yet leaves the door open to further friendly discussion.

On 10/15/2017 at 1:12 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

For those who still don't know how to process conspiracy theorists, I left the following comment over at William's blog the other day (see here). He didn't agree that it was a valid approach (it's hard to let go of a prejudice once ingrained :) ), but that is the way listening to conspiracy theorists works with people like me. And from the looks of things, it works that way with a shit-ton of people all over America.

-- for those who like to check out reviews before purchasing or borrowing from a library, here's a selection -- which I thought remarkable. Remarkable in the sense of "how many reviews do not mention Donald Trump?"

New York Times review by Adrian Chen
Inside Higher Education review by Scott McLemee
Brief Scientific American review by Maria Temming

-- for the benefit of Dear Leader, I found the book is available at his local library too!

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11 minutes ago, Jon Letendre said:

That Standard Hotel, in Schiff’s district, is a child trafficking front.

That Schiff is a top customer and long-time protector.

And that the owners were murdered, by Schiff, in a helicopter “accident” the other day.

This kind of unchecked rumour without reference is ... not quite what I want to encourage here. Can you please add some links to the rumour source? Otherwise, I'm inclined to trash your comment. 

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Next time ... I don't want to be a jerk without warning. You could view me as encouraging you to share with the blog readership your "sources and methods." Maybe something with more flesh and ligament.

Share yer sources, bro! It's what I'd ask of anyone here. Reason wielding ...

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https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Orange-County-Newport-Beach-Helicopter-Crash-Victims-471976843.html

“The people who died were identified as Brian R. Reichelt, 56, of Hollywood, Florida; Joseph Anthony Tena, 60, of Newport Beach; and Kimberly Lynne Watzman, 45, of Santa Monica. Watzman worked as the general manager of The Standard hotel in West Hollywood. Reichelt worked for The Standard in Miami as a regional finance director "

The Standard Hotel is owned by Andre Balazs.

Here is Andre with Marina Abramovic, of Podesta emails fame:

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Marina is an “artist”

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9 hours ago, william.scherk said:
9 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

That Standard Hotel, in Schiff’s district, is a child trafficking front.

[...] Can you please add some links to the rumour source?

Thanks for supplying two dots ...

Wanna go for a trifecta -- and share the source/warrants for the "child-trafficking front" claim?

In other words, please provide what you can to support your lead claim. If you are feeling Objectivish ...

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André Balazs owns the eight or so Standard Hotels. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Balazs

Partner(s) Chelsea Handler (2010–2013)
Uma Thurman (2004–2007, 2015–2016)
Cosima Vesey (2017–present)

 

“graduated from Cornell University as a College Scholar and member of the Quill and Dagger society,”

(I wonder if that’s like HW Bush, GW Bush and John Kerry, Yale, Skull and Bones society?)

 

Sexual Assault AllegationEdit

In 2017, a New York Times article reported that Balazs had groped Amanda Anka at a 2014 dinner party in London in front of a group of people, including Anka's husband Jason Bateman[2]

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https://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/helicopters/helicopter-accident-rate-drops-dramatically

The statistics show that there are less than half as many accidents involving helicopters today compared with baseline data averaged from 2001 through 2005, which was published by the International Helicopter Safety Team (IHST), USHST's parent organization. During the first seven months of 2014, there were 3.94 helicopter accidents for every 100,000 flight hours compared with the baseline number of 7.97.”

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/civil-helicopter-accidents-in-2015-declined-in-u-s-statistics-show-1456881868

“Total accident and fatality rates for civil helicopters in the U.S. dropped more than 15% in 2015 versus a year earlier”

 

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Orange-County-Newport-Beach-Helicopter-Crash-Victims-471976843.html

Revolution Aviation has been operating since the 1960s, offering pilot-training and sightseeing trips. The website boasts a 100 percent safety record.”


https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Orange-County-Newport-Beach-Helicopter-Crash-Victims-471976843.html

Listen to how mind-programming the opening paragraph sounds:

“Three people killed in the crash of a helicopter in a Newport Beach neighborhood were identified Wednesday while federal investigators continued what will be a months-long effort to determine what caused the aircraft to come down.”

 

It’ll be months, got it? It won’t be one of those sequences of system failures that reveals itself and is understood quickly, no, no, and it won’t be that a rotor came off as will be shown in witness videos, no, it won’t be like that. Instead, it’s going to be the kind of cause that doesn’t reveal itself to investigators for months. First paragraph.


Oh, look, Balazs’ Quill_and_Dagger secret society really IS just like Skull and Bones...

 

From 1913 to 1984, Quill and Dagger had at least one member in the U.S. Congress every single year.[18] In recent decades, the society has had a strong presence in the U.S. State Department and related government positions, with two National Security Advisors,[19] two Directors of Policy Planning, and numerous assistant secretaries and senior advisers. Additionally, two members recently served as World Bank presidents, and a large number of members serve on the Council on Foreign Relations. Many of these government officials interact regularly in their professional duties.[20] At least five members of George W. Bush's administration were Quill and Dagger members: Stephen FriedmanStephen KrasnerPaul WolfowitzStephen Hadley, and Carol Kuntz. President Barack Obama's administration included Deputy Secretary of Labor Seth Harris, Associate Counsel to the President Alison J. Nathan, Deputy Director of the Office of Environmental Quality Gary Guzy, and Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Markets Mary J. Miller.

During the 1930s through 1950s, the chairmen of Standard Oil,[21] Sun Oil (now Sunoco),[22] and Continental Oil (now ConocoPhillips) companies were Quill and Dagger members, and many other advanced positions in these corporations were held by society members. Younger members who entered the oil industry at this time would gain industry prominence later in the century, with one becoming chairman of Amoco in the 1990s.[23] In the 1960s, the management of Union Carbide, the oldest chemical and polymer company in the country, passed directly from one member to another.[24] In recent years, similar networking appears to be at work in the leading investment banks.


http://www.standardhotels.com/la/features/paddle-room

Look, they have Ping Pong, just like Comet Pizza. Luxurious, and with three bars, but doesn’t open Saturday until midnight.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ping pong

sexual act involving three people. One person is on all fours while they are fucked in the mouth as well as the ass or vagina. Usually takes place with two men as the ''paddles'' and one woman as the ''ball''. The paddles knock the ball back and forth. The men knock the woman back and forth.

But Katy says boys. Who, by breakfast, are still up and “still fresh as a daisy.”

Watch for pizza and ping pong! (And illuminati eye.)

Now try to remember, this is how we do. This how we do. And, this is no big deal.

It’s no big deal. This is no big deal. Cue the beat...


We need to understand Hollywood and celebrities, their values and pastimes, because that is his world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Hotels

“The first Standard Hotel, The Standard Hollywood, opened on the Sunset Strip in 1999 in West Hollywood, California [...] The building that now houses The Standard, Hollywood, was originally built in 1962 as the Thunderbird Motel, and had become a retirement home when Balazs purchased and remodeled it. Original investors in the Hollywood hotel were Leonardo DiCaprioCameron DiazBenicio del ToroD'arcy Wretzky and James Iha.”


Katy Perry, Standard Hotel, May 2017. Two names look familiar, were recently in the news, John Legend and Chrissy Teigen.

https://www.vogue.com/article/met-gala-2017-after-party-top-of-the-standard-hotel-katy-perry

The line outside the Boom Boom Room at the Standard Hotel on any given night can snake quite long around the street. But last night, Katy Perry brought even more wattage to the New York City nightlife staple by hosting a post–Met Gala bash, which brought out the likes of J.Rod (J.Lo did an outfit switch into a minidress), John Legend and Chrissy Teigen (who also changed dresses into a mini), and Priyanka Chopra (whose hem was severely chopped post gala). Inside, Eddie Redmayne chatted up James Cordenand Julia Carey, while siblings Jake and Maggie Gyllenhaal caught up over cocktails.


Yes John Legend and Chrissy Teigen, how could I forget?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chrissy-teigen-and-john-legend-threaten-to-sue-conspiracy-theorist-over-pedophilia-allegations/

"Chrissy you run in circle with people who rape, torture & traffic kids. This is a fact, I expose sex trafficking for a living," said Crokin.“

Is it strange? Or is it not strange - that a month ago they threatened to sue yet there has been no actual suing?


So this Balazs, three years in love with Chelsea Handler. That really is something.

I immediately wondered if Quill and Dagger was who pissed on her face, but that wasn’t him, Jason Biggs pissed on her.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/chelsea-handler-jason-biggs-peed-on-my-face-20141610/

"I can deal with it, I don't have a problem with urine. There are things that are way more disgusting than that. To me it's funny that somebody can be that rude to another person. That made me really happy."

Full video at the usmagazine link above.

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This Balazs Guy “losing” his director of finance and a top general manager in a helicopter crash with no distress call made that media immediately assert will take months to understand, is fishy as hell.

Raids and arrests are happening around the country and many thousands have been arrested. At least hundreds of children saved. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s widely reported fact.

Whether this particular weirdo who runs hotels for weirdos is one of those cases is of no particular interest to me.

But he does look to me like someone who would be among the perpetrators being arrested by the thousands. The right background, the right social crowds, cities and locations. All check marks. So far it’s been about sweeping up the teams out on street. Those all had bosses, so it will be more and more about the bigger fish from now on.


Trump declared a national emergency on December 21, 2017 caused by “serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world.” This has legal implications, he is allowed extra powers. And it quite plainly does not pertain only to the named individuals, it applies to any human being on the planet who qualifies. 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

So I don’t think we will have to wait much longer to find out.

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Alright so here's the three claims that John Letendre made 22 hours ago:

22 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

That Standard Hotel, in Schiff’s district, is a child trafficking front.

That Schiff is a top customer and long-time protector.

And that the owners were murdered, by Schiff, in a helicopter “accident” the other day.

Where is the link, cite, argument, warrant that the Hollywood Standard is a child-trafficking front?

Where is the link, cite, warrant or argument that supports the notion that Shiff is the hotel's top (child-trafficking) customer? 

Where is any evidence that the helicopter crash that claimed the lives of the Hollywood hotel's employees was actually a hit job, a murder arranged or directed by Adam Shiff?

 

 

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Three claims, oh my. I made one claim, “Very nasty things about Schiff and Standard Hotel being said today,” and that claim is 110% correct and true.

Then you asked me for the contents and I gave some. I am telling, not claiming anything.

Then I went researching the guy a little to see why people would think these things of this hotelier and his congressional rep. Maybe he has made a statement by now or maybe he will soon, and clear it all up.

To be more clear about what I heard about, it wasn’t necessarily that Schiff did the hit, but that he’s very involved.

There have been some shootings and murders at Standards in the past and not everyone is satisfied that Schiff wasn’t involved in one of those and not convinced Schiff didn’t get a cleanup treatment and subsequent puppetization.

Schiff is a manifest scumbag. This stuff is happening everywhere big league, but especially where Standard Hotels do business and especially with who they do business with. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck.

But, no I don’t have any more evidence at this time that Standard is anything but. Or that Schiff will in fact commit suicide soon or spend the rest of his worthless life behind bars being sexually abused 24/7. But,....Wanna bet how it turns out?

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Really priceless headline here. It was suicide, an LAPD spokesperson explains.  You know how we know? Because there is no investigation, that’s how, dummy!”

Headline: 

“"Because there's no criminal investigation involved it has been deemed a suicide," an LAPD spokesperson says”

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/man-jumps-death-roof-standard-733020

 

“The hotel's debauched rooftop space — replete with DJs, bars, a pool and intimate waterbed pods that encouraged commingling among guests — instantly became a hot draw among Hollywood scene seekers.”

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André Balazs owns the eight or so Standard Hotels. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Balazs

Partner(s) Chelsea Handler (2010–2013)
Uma Thurman (2004–2007, 2015–2016)
Cosima Vesey (2017–present)
 

So Uma was his girl for years, and then, again.

I don’t know the dates of Harvey Weinstein’s attacks on Uma that she describes in today’s article:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-03/uma-thurman-says-her-assault-weinstein-was-bat-head

"I  am one of the reasons that a young girl would walk into his room alone, the way I did. Quentin used Harvey as the executive producer of "Kill Bill", a movie that symbolizes female empowerment. And all these lambs walked into slaughter because they were convinced nobody rises to such a position who would do something illegal to you, but they do."

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20 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Wanna bet how it turns out?

Sure. It turns out you likely got a whiff of The Cabal by way of divinations of "Q."

Schiff will continue to represent his California district; he will not be swept up in the Great Awakening, sent to Guantanamo, have his neck snapped or bite a bullet; the murder suggestions will be cake in the rain. 

For other readers ... I wish Jon had just cited "Q" and/or Q-whisperers from the clamour of Youtube, 8chan, reddit, etc.

On 02/02/2018 at 11:11 AM, william.scherk said:
On 02/02/2018 at 10:57 AM, Jon Letendre said:

That Standard Hotel, in Schiff’s district, is a child trafficking front.

That Schiff is a top customer and long-time protector.

And that the owners were murdered, by Schiff, in a helicopter “accident” the other day.

This kind of unchecked rumour without reference is ... not quite what I want to encourage here. Can you please add some links to the rumour source? Otherwise, I'm inclined to trash your comment. 

It all depends on how far down the rabbithole one is willing or able to go. Since this involves the latter-day seer Q, I have made a selection of entry-level material:

 

-- here is someone's Grandpa, from his lair, one of scores of Q-whisperers holding down the fort night and day on modern Youtube. THE STORM!

 

 

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Don't forget the Glee actor's suicide...

Whoozits...

(OK, I'll look... Mark Salling is the notable gentleman's name, the one who was facing jail time for child porn--see here.)

Michael

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4 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Sure. It turns out you likely got a whiff of The Cabal by way of divinations of "Q."

Schiff will continue to represent his California district; he will not be swept up in the Great Awakening, sent to Guantanamo, have his neck snapped or bite a bullet; the murder suggestions will be cake in the rain. 

For other readers ... I wish Jon had just cited "Q" and/or Q-whisperers from the clamour of Youtube, 8chan, reddit, etc.

It all depends on how far down the rabbithole one is willing or able to go. Since this involves the latter-day seer Q, I have made a selection of entry-level material:

 

-- here is someone's Grandpa, from his lair, one of scores of Q-whisperers holding down the fort night and day on modern Youtube. THE STORM!

 

 

It’s cute that you post low grade YouTubes about Q then go on to imply they are the primary support for various Trump-positive positions.

Thanks for this YouTube, though. I’m 3/4ths through it. Not so much a Q drop as a reading and thoughts about Trump’s Executive Order and declaration of National Emergency.

I really enjoyed the 30:00 mark, when the Congressmen and Congresswomen are chanting USA! USA! The night of the speech that moment really got my attention. That’s not usual decorum and it says a lot about their current emotional state, their thoughts, intentions and will. Some of us don’t need reporters, or Q, to tell us that upheavals are happening.

Do you know when it hit me? About a year ago when the Italian Police raided a residence at the Vatican, arrested 50 or 150 or so during a gay orgy, half a million dollars of coke on the kitchen table taken as evidence, etc...

That should never have happened, right? Meaning, those police would never raid that house. They don’t want to die, disappear, never be seen again. They would never do it. That’s why the parties never used to get busted. But that night, they DID raid the house. Again, there’s no need for reporters to explain it to me - an enormous power shift is occurring. I don’t need a bunch of details before I can conclude that. I don’t need to go find a link that supports the thesis a power shift is underway, which appears to be your first instinct. I may be curious about a hundred things, but I know enough to know a huge power shift was underway at the Vatican.

Then Saudi Arabia, Twitter top shareholder hung upside down and tortured, then Schmidt quits ABC/Google, and now all the democrats are acting full-bore fucking deranged. Almost like they are desperate for their very lives. You seem to think it’s not objectivish until a cite is produced that says everything I just said, but you’re wrong.

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L.A.'s Standard Hotel owner charged with chemical dumping

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/31/local/me-standard31

Officials initially suspected terrorism.

Several people had been overcome by a cloud of noxious gas, causing at least two of them to begin vomiting and a Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy to experience a burning sensation in his eyes and lungs.

The officer noticed an empty 50-gallon tank labeled "muriatic acid" under some stairs near the pool, but employees denied dumping any of that into the drain. There was another unmarked 50-gallon tank -- this one nearly empty -- nearby.

 

So much acid. Serial killers and mob dissolve bodies in acid.

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You don’t want to be a young black man staying overnight with Ed Buck
 
 
No investigation, though. And so, like with bodies falling off the orgy rooftop Standard Hotel, if there’s is no investigation, then it was purely self-inflicted, and if it was purely self-inflicted, there is no point in any investigation.
 
Here is Ed Buck with Adam Schiff
 
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On 2/3/2018 at 12:22 PM, Jon Letendre said:

I made one claim, “Very nasty things about Schiff and Standard Hotel being said today,” and that claim is 110% correct and true.

Then you asked me for the contents and I gave some.

I then asked for cites or sources of the rumours of child trafficking, murder and Schiff which you posted. In other words, "Where, where are the rumours coming from, Jon?"

As it turns out, the rumours originated with Q and Q-whisperers.

I don't know why you did not simply refer readers to your source or sources of the rumours -- or post a link to one of the Q-whisperers. I added in above what I believe were the sources/origin points.

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   -- next time, I will first ask: do you believe the rumours you pass along? I might also ask "how would you know if you are wrong?"  It may be too late here but I will ask anyway: "do you believe the rumours you put forward here?"

If so, readers here will likely ask themselves, "Why? Why does Jon believe the rumours?"

On 2/3/2018 at 10:58 PM, Jon Letendre said:

It’s cute that you post low grade YouTubes about Q then go on to imply they are the primary support for various Trump-positive positions.

I posted links to Q's mention of Adam Schiff and a few subsequent first-order elaborations on the mention. Not to imply they are 'the primary support for various' Trump-positive positions,' but to suggest this was where the rumours were generated and ramified.  I have no idea at which point in the elaboration of Q''s questions/comments you reached gnosis. You remain coy on where you first saw the rumours ... 

On 2/3/2018 at 10:58 PM, Jon Letendre said:

Some of us don’t need reporters, or Q, to tell us that upheavals are happening.

On this blog, commenters are encouraged to provide sources for the information they pass along.  We need you, Jon, to report honestly on where you fetch up rumours you post.

On 2/3/2018 at 10:58 PM, Jon Letendre said:

I don’t need to go find a link that supports the thesis a power shift is underway, which appears to be your first instinct.

I don't understand this. My first instinct here was to ask "WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFORMATION?"

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On 2/3/2018 at 10:58 PM, Jon Letendre said:

You seem to think it’s not objectivish until a cite is produced that says everything I just said, but you’re wrong.

Perhaps you now understand what I ask for.  If you think it is wrong or non-Objectivish of me to ask you to provide references to information you cite ... that's fine. Please respond to reasonable requests in good faith next time.

OL for the blind ... Jon and WSS repartee above:

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I have poked around the Standard websites a bit and there really is no question these people are satanic pedolphiles.

The Standard Hotels cater to child fuckers.

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I saw discussions and reported on them. I did not see the Q posts you have posted.

why do you think you know I got them directly from where you say?

what the hell is wrong with you?

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Jon: people say the damnedest things about that Nixon.

Trump Derangenemnt Sufferer: Like What?

Jon: Broke in somewhere and stole things. Erased tapes. Lied about important stuff.

Trump Derangenemnt Sufferer: You read Bernstein.

Jon: I’ve heard of him, but did not get this from him.

Trump Derangenemnt Sufferer: Yes you did! You read Bernstein! You read Bernstein! You read Bernstein! Try to care about honesty, you read Bernstein!

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