On 7/27/2018 at 10:27 AM, william.scherk said:

One of the weirdest and most overwrought accounts still pressing the "Pizzagate" button is Liz Crokin^**.  In the last 24 hours she has fixated on Christina Wilkie, a CNBC writer on the White House beat. 

She got reported. The Wilkie tweet was removed.

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I suspect that Crokin will get her ass disciplined for this kind of wild accusation

There were no prizes.

But Liz Crokin has inserted a fresh Q tip.  Did you know that President Trump and JFK Jr could have cooked up his whole presidency, and that JFK Junior is alive and may very well be Q?

Old Roy Moore still manages to get into the headlines, even if they are ones halfway down the page. Today has minor hoopla that he gave up his lawsuit against opposition ads. And some gossip from guess-who about 'why did Roy Moore lose?' queries uttered by you-bet.

The bottom line is he lost because of black voters, especially black women.  From the Hill's 'opinion contributors' Christopher Parker and Henry Fernandez, whose reasoning links to details supporting their beliefs.  This is from late August.

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Alabama, Georgia, Virginia. Over the last year strong black voter turnout in all three states drove progressive wins in a special election (Alabama), a primary (Georgia) and a general election (Virginia).

Why? To the chagrin of some, we think it centers squarely on identity politics. Not a few on the left wish to banish identity politics to the margins of political discourse. They say it will scare off too many working-class white voters. We don't think that's relevant when two-thirds of Trump supporters reside in the upper half of the income distribution.

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The political data firm TargetSmart analyzed the 2017 special election in Alabama where Democrat Doug Jones bested Republican Roy Moore to fill the Senate seat previously held by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

They found blacks accounted for 30 percent of all ballots cast, compared to casting 24 percent of ballots in 2016. That’s an increase of 25 percent. On average, 96 percent of the black community supported Jones, with black women leading the way at 98 percent. Normally, we would expect black turnout to drop as a percentage of votes cast for an off-year election as compared to a presidential election. Instead, black turnout won this election for Jones, putting the Senate in play in 2018.

Why the boost in black turnout, especially among black women voters? We believe it is in large part a result of the threat Trump and his allies pose to minority progress. For African Americans, Trump's rhetoric about "Make America Great Again," suggests he wishes to erase progress made over the last 50 years.

In our July poll we asked black voters whether they considered Trump a threat to progress made by African Americans. 69 percent of black voters who believe Trump is a threat say they are certain to vote in the 2018 midterms.

Only 39 percent of black voters who do not see Trump as a threat share that certainty. That's a stunning 30 point swing! In addition, we have found that 89 percent of black women, the group most likely to vote in Alabama, feel they have been disrespected by something Trump said or did.

In the Virginia governor’s race, we and Latino Decisions polled a month before the election and again just before election day. Support for Democrat Ralph Northam among black voters was initially quite soft but strengthened over the final weeks.

What changed? Republican Ed Gillespie (N.J.) began running scare mongering ads featuring brown skinned Latinos and the purported threat of crime. Democrats responded with mailers that visually tied Trump and Gillespie to the racist violence in Charlottesville. Black support jumped as distinctions between the two candidates crystalized. Black voters found Gillespie’s ads more jarring than even Latino voters did.

Candidates who want black support must focus on issues important to black voters. Further, candidates who wish to increase black turnout also need to make clear with whom they stand. The black community believes Trump is a serious threat, as are candidates who seek his support. If the objective is to increase black turnout in 2018, Democrats must clarify where they stand vis-à-vis Trump.

I think this is why the snake-eyed GOP candidate for Governor is having his entrails picked over for racialist gleanings. Each iffy item can be used for electoral propaganda. So far his four or five appearances at a David Horowitz yearly bunfest have drawn the most attention.

It is kind of dispiriting to think that black women might feel personally disrespected by Trump. Does this tie into the myth of the black matriarch? Where did the impression come from? This is the force of the 'black belt' urban precincts that so flummoxed Bill Mitchell and Owen Shroyer in their respective election night punditry.

[ZZzzzzz Canadian ethno-racial politics ...]

Identity politics is always a potential live wire in Canada because we are such a high-melt crucible, with regional variants. French-English issues always simmer on someone's stove, and the fears of Them swamping Quebec culture can be whipped up  at any time, with varying results (the last separatist government under Pauline Maurois tried to campaign on an otherwise popular 'unmask Muslims & oh yeah Quebec Values Charter' requirement that if you took public services [a bus-rider?] or you were a public servant [a nurse or doctor?] you could not wear conspicuous symbols of religious hoohaw that hid your face or hair or otherwise upset the older crowd. This split her party, since it also has social liberationoid factions, and her government was thrown out. The following government tried to finesse it with an almost-equally odious unmask-the-Muslim law, that actually required a regulation to except keeping the bag-head and scarfed ladies off transit.

The law was examined by a court that said, basically, hey -- "Quebecers have rights within Canada and your law goes into the unconstitutional file. You will lose all your appeals, you idiots." After obvious warnings that this is what would happen, the government is not huffy and puffy about the issue of bagheads and scarves, though appeals are lodged.)

Today there is an intra-ethnic dispute roiling the Indo-Canadian community, particularly the Punjabi-speaking or descended.

Canada has relaxed some of its rules on international students being able to step out of university into work, and from there toward citizenship and of course sponsoring eighty-five hunded relatives.  The main points of dispute are between exploitation and corruption. Who is zooming who?  A full public-opinion thrashout is underway within their zone between rooted Canadians and seeming gatecrashers, schemers -- within a form of exploitative mining  of 'labour.' 130,000 Indian-origin students in our universities now. 

It's bad news to disrespect a brown or black lady in my city. It has a hundred-year history of Punjabi farmers alongside other colonist later settlers with pluck and determination. Their descendants harvested the last blueberries you ate. A black person here is as likely to be your barber as your banker. There is no 'ghetto' where any one group congregates due to exclusion from 'better' areas.  The biggest and best house on our circle belongs to Mr Singh. He has the best lawn and in his crisply-fenced side-yard four hundred potato plants, of which crop he has promised us.

Just kidding about the blueberries. Punjabi-heritage people are fully integrated into all dimensions of life, not just dominating berry production. Pickup trucks, gym, tight leggings for the millennials, pickup trucks, old river jetboats -- and boots and plaid for the still plowing generations. It's a gross social error to racialize conduct in public. Brown Mr Besant whom I talk to at the mailbox is thoroughly anti-Trudeau straight-Conservative retired voter 35 years on the Canadian Pacific rail crews. He dresses in vaguely-sinister Bulgarian tracksuits just large enough for his grandpa belly.

All kinds.[... zzzZZZZ]

Roy Moore feels it necessary to comment on the Kavanaugh Kerfuffle:

Muh false flag Russians?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/liberal-billionaire-apologizes-for-funding-false-flag-effort-to-link-kremlin-to-republican-in-alabama-senate-race

3 hours ago, 9thdoctor said:

Muh false flag Russians?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/liberal-billionaire-apologizes-for-funding-false-flag-effort-to-link-kremlin-to-republican-in-alabama-senate-race

 

Dennis,

Yup.

Bought and paid for.

These Silicon Valley dudes can sound an awful lot like cheesy politicians when they feel there's a threat the government will come down on them like a ton of bricks.

Look what Reid Hoffman said--from the article:

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“I find the tactics that have been recently reported highly disturbing. For that reason, I am embarrassed by my failure to track AET – the organization I did support – more diligently as it made its own decisions to perhaps fund projects that I would reject,” he said in a statement provided to the Washington Post.

“I want to be unequivocal: there is absolutely no place in our democracy for manipulating facts or using falsehoods to gain political advantage,” he added.

Yeah, right...

Coming from him...

If Clinton had won, not only would he not say that, he would be doing more crap like it.

Michael

2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

If Clinton had won, not only would he not say that, he would be doing more crap like it.

Cheap point: if Clinton had won, there wouldn't have been an special Alabama Senate race for his group to "meddle" with.

Sounds like this guy would love to use the words "no collusion".  But he can't.

On a totally different matter, I was just listening to NPR (it's good to know what tunes the devil is playing) and they did a year-end round up of "2018 climate change disasters".  E.g. hurricanes.  Some "scientist" has recently published a paper opposing the till-now standard IPCC line that the cause of extreme weather events can't/shouldn't be ascribed to climate change.  One paper.  So now they're running with it.  Have they covered this Alabama scandal?  Guess.

Well, who could have predicted this?

GOP candidate welcomes Roy Moore to enter Alabama Senate primary

Who is to say Roy Moore won't enter the primary contest, win it -- and win in the general election in 2020?

Poll: Roy Moore leading Alabama GOP field
 
There are only 293 days until the first electoral contest of the cycle. The excitement is unbearable in some quarters.

Something tells me the President might change his mind if Moore clinches the GOP primary ...

On the other hand, a tale from 538 by Geoffrey Skelley: How Roy Moore Could Actually Win Alabama’s Republican Senate Primary

On 11/11/2017 at 4:26 PM, william.scherk said:

Now, as to the Roy Moore allegations, I don't believe for a moment that he is or was a pedophile. That he sought to date teenaged girls in his 30s seems more likely than that he is sexually-attracted to girls below the age of puberty. That he invited young Leigh to touch his genitals is ... disputed.

Roy Moore topic thread branch:  

15 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

William,

btw - Here you seem to understand perfectly

From NewsMax:

The lawsuit centered on one TV commercial that recounted accusations against Moore. Moore's attorneys argued the ad, through the juxtaposition of statements, falsely claimed he solicited sex from young girls at a shopping mall, including another 14-year-old who was working as a Santa's helper, and that resulted in him being banned from the mall.

The advertisement began with: “What do people who know Roy Moore say?” It followed with the statements “Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden mall ... for soliciting sex from young girls” and “One he approached was 14 and working as Santa’s helper.”

Wendy Miller has previously testified that she met Moore when she was 14 and working as a Santa’s helper at the local mall. She testified Moore told her she was pretty, asked her where she went to high school and offered to buy her a soda. He asked her asked her out two years later, but her mother told her she could not go.

Moore’s attorneys argued the juxtaposition of statements in the ad painted Moore in a false light and falsely made it look like he was soliciting sex from girls at the mall.

“In their ad they strung quotes together to make a single statement. That’s what the jury found offensive. They got up and lied and said they didn’t intend that,” Jeffrey Scott Wittenbrink, an attorney for Moore, said.

The Senate Majority PAC had argued the ad was substantially true and that there were widespread reports about Moore’s inappropriate behavior at the mall. An attorney said they planned to appeal.

According to a Thursday court filing from Senate Majority, a Gadsden police officer who worked as security at the Gadsden Mall in the late 1970s — J.D. Thomas — testified that he told Moore not to return to the mall after receiving complaints from store managers that Moore was asking out teen employees or making them uncomfortable. Moore maintained he was never banned from the mall.

“No amount of deflection or distraction from Roy Moore will change the fact that multiple individuals testified under oath to corroborate credible accusations against him. Many others have come forward to make their allegations public, at serious personal cost. We do not think this verdict is the right decision, but we believe the facts are clear and this ruling will be overturned on appeal," Stafford, an attorney representing Senate Majority PAC, said in an emailed statement.

"Big setback for Pedogate yesterday. France got a pedophile as it's first lady."

Just to be clear, Newsmax doesn't think that the verdict will be overturned on appeal.

The attorney for the party that has to shell out $8 million plus said that.

But to be clear, nobody thinks the lawyer or his client have 8 million plus reasons to appeal, do they?

Of course not.

Everybody thinks they are warriors for truth and justice, mom. apple pie and the American way of life.

Oops... looks like I misspoke...

Not many people, not many people at all, think they are warriors for truth and justice and the rest...

Most people think they are political hacks and lawyers.

Michael