Harry Binswanger on Open Immigration

[Peter]

Adam doesn't look his age.

It’s all our fault, in a strategic sense, says Ron Paul. He plays the game of *what if we hadn’t.* It is such a mess now after our meddling , establishing false borders, overthrowing some and propping up other regimes. So, is his solution of not meddling now, an answer? If refugees are encouraged to cross borders that is meddling. If necessity impels refugees to migrate we respond with arms at our side, not open arms. I would be willing to try isolationism, as long as we fulfill our limited promises to allies. With the key word being limited, increasing freedom and prosperity at home, could be the long term, benevolent solution.
Peter

The Real Refugee Problem - And How To Solve It, September 08, 2015 by Ron Paul . . . . The reason so many are fleeing places like Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, and Iraq is that U.S. and European interventionist foreign policy has left these countries destabilized with no hopes of economic recovery. This mass migration from the Middle East and beyond is a direct result of the neocon foreign policy of regime change, invasion, and pushing "democracy" at the barrel of a gun. Even when they successfully change the regime, as in Iraq, what is left behind is an almost uninhabitable country. It reminds me of the saying attributed to a U.S. major in the Vietnam War, discussing the bombing of Ben Tre: "It became necessary to destroy the town in order to save it."

. . . . Most of us have seen the heartbreaking photo of the young Syrian boy lying drowned on a Turkish beach. While the interventionists are exploiting this tragedy to call for direct U.S. attacks on the Syrian government, in fact the little boy was from a Kurdish family fleeing ISIS in Kobane. And as we know there was no ISIS in either Iraq or Syria before the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. As often happens when there is blowback from bad foreign policy, the same people who created the problem think they have a right to tell us how to fix it - while never admitting their fault in the first place.

. . . . Here is the real solution to the refugee problem: stop meddling in the affairs of other countries. Embrace the prosperity that comes with a peaceful foreign policy, not the poverty that goes with running an empire. End the Empire!
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[Brant Gaede]

Not "destroy the town"--"destroy the village." It was uttered by the son of George S. Patton jr (III), George S. Patton IV. He was probably being sardonic but criticized for being a stupid thug. Take a pick; it's one or the other. He got a lot of medals and eventually made Major General.

--Brant

soldiers are in the business of being thugs or supporting the thugs in the field in turn supported in their thuggery by the folks back home--there are all kinds of thugs from stupid to noble and we pretend government thugs--police and soldiers--aren't thugs because the law de-thugs them with legal and at least implied moral sanction so they get to hit people over the head, but the people can't reply in turn: it's a no-no

every government action is thuggery including action against other thugs, it's only justification: the anarchists think that's why we should have anarchy, but I have to go with my (noble) thug can beat up your (ignoble) thug, so fuck off or he will