Alex Jones apologizes for "Pizzagate" lie...

[BaalChatzaf]

As it appeared in the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/business/alex-jones-pizzagate-apology-comet-ping-pong.html

Jones ought to be smartly whacked with a libel suit against him. 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Bob,

I talked about this on the Fake News thread.

On 3/25/2017 at 3:18 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

There's so much spin out in the media about this right now, it's hard to see through the fog of shit. The odd thing is, this entire kerfuffle with Alex Jones is over stuff mentioned on his show last November. Not over anything since. Last November.

In fact, I have seen Alex since last year tell people that Pizzagate was a misinformation booby trap set up to get the attention off the real problem (widespread pedophilia among the elites in general). He's said that over and over.

If you see his video apology (see here), it is full of lawyerly terms and he's obviously reading the text from a teleprompter. He never does that. So why now? I read the following in the Washington post (see here) and that probably explains it. 

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Jones, a staunch supporter of Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, offered no comment or apology to Clinton or Podesta for outlandish statements about their alleged involvement in the abuse of hundreds of children.

Jones didn’t say what prompted his apology but it may have been motivated by a letter Alefantis wrote to him in February. The letter demands an apology and retraction for InfoWars’ postings about Pizzagate; it does not threaten legal action, but refers to what Alefantis describes as “defaming” comments by InfoWars.

But the timing of Jones’s apology suggests he was concerned about a potential lawsuit. Under Texas law, the Austin-based Jones had to retract or apologize for the stories by Friday — one full month after receiving Alefantis’s letter — to avoid exposing InfoWars to punitive damages in a libel suit.

Also, there is a Pizzagate demonstration or something in Washington DC happening right around this time. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

There's a lot of activity in the press about Pizzagate that just won't go away and, like I said, it's a fog of shit. If this issue is a big fat nothingburger, why does the press keep harping on it? One would think the press would move on like it does with all tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

So I suspect there will be a new ending to this story before too long. I keep seeing that the FBI is now involved in looking into Pizzagate. It's spun this way and that, of course. But the word "Pizzagate" with the term "FBI" keep coming up in the same articles. Over and over...

btw - Did anyone notice that some of the very people so very concerned about the reputation of Alefantis are the same who claimed--over and over--that President Trump had sex with his own daughter, Ivanka, when she was young? I don't recall any of these sleazeballs retracting that crap or apologizing to the president...

So excuse me if I don't resonate with any potential moral implications of Alex's apology. I think he's doing what he has to do for legal reasons and, anyway, believes this was a misinformation propaganda trap all along. At least he's been saying that since last December.

Also, Alex has a lot of behind-the-scene friends in law enforcement. So he might be clearing the way in the media--i.e., downplaying the Pizzagate narrative to create a vacuum--for bigger news on pedophilia among the elites to erupt when the hammer slams down.

In my view, Pizzagate is here to stay. But the meme is morphing into Pedogate.

Michael

[william.scherk]

Three threads for David Seaman. Well, why not? It's 2017.  

Who's got video of his appearance? (Me, I am editing the David Seaman speechifying out of a couple of videos of the full rally)

 

Casey and Danielle travelled from Jacksonville for Pizzagate rally, say Wikileaks got them into it. Very into it: "This is all we do." pic.twitter.com/7YofPT9kyc

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) March 25, 2017

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

5 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Three threads for David Seaman. Well, why not? It's 2017.

William,

That's just on OL.

For some reason, despite constantly trying, the corporate media can't seem to squash him like a bug.

What's wrong with them? Have they lost their mojo?

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

And since William so generously mentioned David Seaman's prominence, here's some more.

 

Just now, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

David Seaman again.

Pizzagate, now Pedogate, just won't go away.

The pictures with comments David posts in this video are disturbing, especially the young child with hands taped to the table.

Michael

Also, David is unsubscribing from Alex Jones, he says, because of Alex's apology.

I suspect David is getting trashed backstage by lefties for mixing his image with Alex's. After all, David's world view does not fall within Alex's. They overlap a little, but there is a wide fundamental gap. And, I believe, the lefties see David as one of their own who is wayward right now, not "the other side" like they consider Alex.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

And here is what I think David was responding to.

Regardless, it is Alex's response.

Michael

 

EDIT: The audio sync is totally screwed with the video, but this is mostly a talking head video, so you don't miss anything. If the sync bothers you and you want to watch it, treat it like a radio broadcast and don't even look.

(Note: Alex uploaded a fixed version, so I replaced it.)

Alex said he released the apology to distance himself from the Pizzagate distraction. He said he is now going to go after elitist pedophiles big-time--including reports on court cases, arrest records, etc.

I believe him.

I also expect to see him interview a lot of law enforcement insiders about pedophilia investigations and the elites. And a whole lot more. I think they poked a sleeping bear when they went after Alex and tried to nail him to a cross with Pizzagate.

[william.scherk]

10 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Who's got video of his appearance? (Me, I am editing the David Seaman speechifying out of a couple of videos of the full rally)

The fun part is when he sort of sics the crowd on another observer** ... which is a flap and a half, for later. I stitched together two videos of the same event, and combined the sound files to pan on stereo. The flap was with the dude behind Lift the Veil, who has a weird false-flag lens for almost everything, and a two-hour live call-in show, and so of course has a lengthy after-the-fact discussion of the mobbishness at the rally.  I spare you that with an under-three minute two-angle highlight. 

I watched a lot of that damn rally looking for camera angles. Some interesting and some slightly bizarre speakers.

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Seaman points out Pizzagate rival in crowd, crowd members descend on him. pic.twitter.com/WQB6wUxzqB

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) March 25, 2017

Edited March 27, 2017 by william.scherk
Add tweet. Tweak. Unsnarl CSS.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

15 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Also, David is unsubscribing from Alex Jones, he says, because of Alex's apology.

The video was taken down, so it looks like David has changed his mind.

That's good.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

13 hours ago, william.scherk said:

The fun part is when he sort of sics the crowd on another observer**

William,

That was actually kind of cool.

All those people appearing with cameras reversed the effect the heckler tried to promote.

Michael

[william.scherk]

David Brock's demonic MMfA collected some of the "Pizzagate is Real!" recipes barked out by Alex Jones before he began editing his cookbook and video feed.

 

22 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

David Seaman again. [...]

The pictures with comments David posts in this video are disturbing, especially the young child with hands taped to the table.

On 3/26/2017 at 9:07 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I don't resonate with any potential moral implications of Alex's apology.

I do, as least where epistemology gets a head-start on morality.  That aside, the notable part of the statement (beside the regret) is what Alex Jones and by extension Infowars, "knows" ... I highlight the part of the document that resonated with me:

Back to the guy of the hour.

David Seaman has fans and he has critics. Not only is the Lifting the Veil guy, Nathan Stolpman, a bit aroused by David Seaman, but Nathan is the nicest of all of those aroused to question the man. Titus Frost, one of the guys who spoke on stage at the rally, dashed off a denunciation that makes Nathan seem like a nice Consumer Reports lady.  It has since been complained about and removed by Youtube ... but is basically "Titus Frost" driving his car and shouting at the camera about how much of a fucking evul asshole David Seaman is ... to the limit of Youtube's policy on bullying and harassment. Here's a brief set up of Titus's style in the car, at this point shouting at Alex Jones while driving:

But wait! -- there's more.  Yet another guy -- who thinks Seaman is part of the Zionist shill fake-alt counterintelligence plant, or at least his audience is. I have a hard time just figuring out how wacky are the beliefs and obsessions of the Seaman^+/- community, but who loves Titus:

"He was the only one to talk about Zionism and the Talmud ... what a coincidence that they started booing him and screaming at the stage. ... It's right in their religion.  ... The Zionists in the United Kingdom ... this is my message to you ..."

Blah blah blah. Mind-control shill tactics.  "Look at me. Was I one of the first people to ...?" Blah.

And back to David. David David David. Denouncing with one hand, while being denounced on the other. Everyone denounce.  Look up the word schmozzle.

-- "attacks against me" ... "frankly obscene" ... "we might all have Podesta in prison by now" ... "I'm getting sick of the attacks from Titus Frost."  "They are packaging Pizzagate for their own benefit ... completely free ... what Titus Frost is doing with me ... why is he promoting his fiance? ... it's what reality TV stars do ... "

But ... BREAKING! 

Er, a rather more thoughtful exposition by Lee Stranahan, in a Periscope live videocast now on Youtube. Imagine reading the comments live as you try to get through a log jam of journalism boo-boos. Extra points for the mention of McMartin and 'ritual abuse panic.'

Lee Stranahan explains why #PizzaGate is fake news and hurts alt media

Edited March 27, 2017 by william.scherk
Lee Stranahan, who quit Breitbart four days ago. Scolding the scolds ... ritual abuse panic ... waaaaaay back.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Er, a rather more thoughtful exposition by Lee Stranahan, in a Periscope live videocast now on Youtube. Imagine reading the comments live as you try to get through a log jam of journalism boo-boos. Extra points for the mention of McMartin and 'ritual abuse panic.'

Lee Stranahan explains why #PizzaGate is fake news and hurts alt media

William,

I started going through that Periscope video and got exactly 4:25 into it and stopped because of Stranahan's bullshit. I wanted this to be a good thing because I saw part of a different Stranahan video I resonated with.

Here are my two beefs. That was all there were when I stopped.

1. Stranahan claims there is no evidence at all for the list of jargon (pizza, hotdogs, etc.) that is being used for pedophile-related activities in the Pizzagate controversy. Jeez... Maybe someone should introduce him to Google and let him see how this came about, including the evidence. I gleaned the following very quickly.

- It started with symbols from a 2007 FBI document leaked by Wikileaks (see here: Symbols and Logos Used by Pedophiles to Identify Sexual Preferences).

- The Urban Dictionary, in 2010, gave the definition of cheese pizza as child porn. That might not be official, but it does show this term was widely used in the culture for at least seven years.

- Alefantis got mixed up in all this because (1) he likes those symbols in the FBI report and used some in his pizza parlor design and materials, (2) he had a weird Instagram account (no longer online) with really weird pictures of kids, and (3) he was intimate with David Brock (Clinton insider) and very good friends with other Clinton insiders, and many of these people are in Podesta's emails talking about pizza, hot dogs, etc., in a way that makes no sense if literal pizza and hot dogs are what they are referring to.

Is it such a stretch to think that people who know that "cheese pizza" means child porn would extend the jargon as they went along if they had a pizza parlor owner among them? 

That may not be a lot of evidence, nor might it be conclusive evidence, but it is evidence. There is no excuse for Stranahan saying there is no evidence at all and setting the issue aside.

(btw - The following link from November 18 of last year is where a lot of the anti-Alefantis bias and confirmation bias comes from surrounding this issue. It gives pictures from the Instagram account and a whole bunch of stuff. Basically it's a data dump collection of what was circulating on the Internet at the time. Supposing 50% is BS, which is probably the case, that still leaves the other 50%. James Achilles Alefantis And His Comet Ping Pong Network. Warning. You need a good stomach to go through this.)

As as an aside, I have a real beef with one of the gotchas being used by those defending Alefantis. When a hacker presents material to the police, they can't use it as evidence in a trial, especially because hacking is illegal  . So any material hackers have come up and turned over to the police (as some have done) are used as leads, but are not legal evidence. The gotcha folks then crow that this stuff is not evidence. It's that game where they pretend a word has only one meaning and use this as grounds to blank out all the other meanings and implications and crow about it.

2. My other beef is when Stranahan started nitpicking the difference between a hot tub and a heated pool. I know the email he was referring to (from reading it at the end of last year) and when young kids are to be brought over for the "entertainment" of adults at a party, this kind of nitpicking, imho, is bullshit.

So I decided to not waste anymore of my precious non-refundable time on that video.

I'm sad because I wanted to use Stranahan as a check on my own protective emotions (protective of children, that is) as I work through my thoughts and observations on Pizzagate and Pedogate. But if this is the kind of crap he's going to present, whoopty doo. 

Hell, most of the comments I saw on his YouTube video complain that he didn't present anything that debunked anything. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't, but that's good enough for me. I'm not going to invest a half hour of my life finding out for sure. My thing isn't gotcha and Stranahan means very little to my life.

Michael

[ThatGuy]

On 3/27/2017 at 7:51 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

William,

I started going through that Periscope video and got exactly 4:25 into it and stopped because of Stranahan's bullshit. I wanted this to be a good thing because I saw part of a different Stranahan video I resonated with.

Here are my two beefs. That was all there were when I stopped.

1. Stranahan claims there is no evidence at all for the list of jargon (pizza, hotdogs, etc.) that is being used for pedophile-related activities in the Pizzagate controversy. Jeez... Maybe someone should introduce him to Google and let him see how this came about, including the evidence. I gleaned the following very quickly.

- It started with symbols from a 2007 FBI document leaked by Wikileaks (see here: Symbols and Logos Used by Pedophiles to Identify Sexual Preferences).

- The Urban Dictionary, in 2010, gave the definition of cheese pizza as child porn. That might not be official, but it does show this term was widely used in the culture for at least seven years.

- Alefantis got mixed up in all this because (1) he likes those symbols in the FBI report and used some in his pizza parlor design and materials, (2) he had a weird Instagram account (no longer online) with really weird pictures of kids, and (3) he was intimate with David Brock (Clinton insider) and very good friends with other Clinton insiders, and many of these people are in Podesta's emails talking about pizza, hot dogs, etc., in a way that makes no sense if literal pizza and hot dogs are what they are referring to.

Is it such a stretch to think that people who know that "cheese pizza" means child porn would extend the jargon as they went along if they had a pizza parlor owner among them? 

That may not be a lot of evidence, nor might it be conclusive evidence, but it is evidence. There is no excuse for Stranahan saying there is no evidence at all and setting the issue aside.

(btw - The following link from November 18 of last year is where a lot of the anti-Alefantis bias and confirmation bias comes from surrounding this issue. It gives pictures from the Instagram account and a whole bunch of stuff. Basically it's a data dump collection of what was circulating on the Internet at the time. Supposing 50% is BS, which is probably the case, that still leaves the other 50%. James Achilles Alefantis And His Comet Ping Pong Network. Warning. You need a good stomach to go through this.)

As as an aside, I have a real beef with one of the gotchas being used by those defending Alefantis. When a hacker presents material to the police, they can't use it as evidence in a trial, especially because hacking is illegal  . So any material hackers have come up and turned over to the police (as some have done) are used as leads, but are not legal evidence. The gotcha folks then crow that this stuff is not evidence. It's that game where they pretend a word has only one meaning and use this as grounds to blank out all the other meanings and implications and crow about it.

2. My other beef is when Stranahan started nitpicking the difference between a hot tub and a heated pool. I know the email he was referring to (from reading it at the end of last year) and when young kids are to be brought over for the "entertainment" of adults at a party, this kind of nitpicking, imho, is bullshit.

So I decided to not waste anymore of my precious non-refundable time on that video.

I'm sad because I wanted to use Stranahan as a check on my own protective emotions (protective of children, that is) as I work through my thoughts and observations on Pizzagate and Pedogate. But if this is the kind of crap he's going to present, whoopty doo. 

Hell, most of the comments I saw on his YouTube video complain that he didn't present anything that debunked anything. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't, but that's good enough for me. I'm not going to invest a half hour of my life finding out for sure. My thing isn't gotcha and Stranahan means very little to my life.

Michael

"Five years later..."

Pizza-Based Sex Class In Enfield Middle School Causes Outrage

"Here is the complete text of the assignment, the teaching of which was said to be a mistake."

Pizza-Based Sex Class In Enfield Middle School Causes Outrage | Enfield, CT Patch

PATCH.COM

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Here is the complete text of the assignment, the teaching of which was said to be a mistake.

So, Pizzagate 2.0? (And a "mistake"? Really? Notice that, when caught, the answer is always that it was a "mistake"? As they say, "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining..."
Checks off another box on the "conspiracy theories that's coming true" list...)

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This is a pretty good thread for that following item.

After all these years...

The part I find disturbing is not the perverts involved in abusing children in the Pizzagate scandal, although they are monsters.

It's the sheer amount of people defending the perverts without knowing anything about them.

And I don't believe the majority of them are perverts, so why? To feel superior to others?

You look and you wonder. Why are so many people are so passionate about defending evil and so gleeful about "debunking" those who try to expose it?...

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

On 11/18/2023 at 11:48 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The part I find disturbing is not the perverts involved in abusing children in the Pizzagate scandal, although they are monsters.

It's the sheer amount of people defending the perverts without knowing anything about them.

And I don't believe the majority of them are perverts, so why?

Pizzagate.

It never went away, although it was suppressed by a coverup for a while.

Now it is coming back, and this time with a vengeance.

I, for one, want to see a lot of those children-deforming perverts in prison.

This time, mockery and imitating Predator Class talking points ain't gonna work.

Think about the following.

Public statements might identify the mocker and the butt-licker of the Predator Class. In other words, public statements might put a target on the mocker and the butt-licker's back. There are tons of people who are furious over the massive establishment-sanctioned child abuse and censorship to cover it up.

So let the mockers and the butt-lickers now feel the fear of being targeted they tried to instill in decent people.

Snark, snark...

 

Michael

[Strictlylogical]

On 11/19/2023 at 12:48 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

This is a pretty good thread for that following item.

After all these years...

The part I find disturbing is not the perverts involved in abusing children in the Pizzagate scandal, although they are monsters.

It's the sheer amount of people defending the perverts without knowing anything about them.

And I don't believe the majority of them are perverts, so why? To feel superior to others?

You look and you wonder. Why are so many people are so passionate about defending evil and so gleeful about "debunking" those who try to expose it?...

Michael

 

Paradoxically (almost), although the leftist leaning predator class are helplessly hypocritical, haplessly self-contradictory, and intellectually bankrupt, they cannot escape the consistency of identity.

They ARE chronic abusers and true believers in tribalistic collective identity (observe their racism and sexism and groupism in general), which implies guilt (or innocence) by association with the group or tribe. 

This belief system justifies (and is further reinforced by) the deployment of guilt by association attacks, which we see from them all the time.  Individuals are not guilty because of anything they specifically do, e.g. that entire "right-wing" group is guilty... all of them... (it's like a grotesque two for one sale... why get one guilty person when you can impune an entire class of people?).  Equally no single person is innocent... every member of their group or tribe of choice is innocent.

This world view cannot brook a bad apple in their ranks, not only because it is distasteful to them, but because of the entrenched consistency of their flawed thinking: guilt or innocence by tribal membership... blanking out and denying individual responsibility and culpability as such... This consistency of blindness will not allow them to see, or pick from amongst their prized group or tribe of so-called "progressives", those particular individuals which are evil... they simply cannot and do not exist for them.

 

 

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

S,

That's a pretty good description of the surface. (I don't mean that in derogatory terms. I mean it in terms of what's on top, with emphasis on their worldview.)

Underneath, though, I see them operating like the nobility of the past: all perversions and crimes are permitted to the upper class so long as the person doing it is not caught. Once caught, that person is shunned from the upper class.

In today's world, there is a variation. They will circle the wagons--as a collective--to see if they can get away with a denial. Once it is clear they cannot, they will then shun the person. Look at Al Franken for a quick and easy example that does not involve children. It was pretty hard to deny that photo no matter what the story was.   

But when serious damage might happen to them like with Jeffrey Epstein and shunning does not work, they go ahead and assassinate the person.

In short, as a collective they are scum who can't think straight. As individuals, they are scum who can at times.

 

Michael