I don't know if "Robert Hall" is a real person. The following was posted on
the Atlantis 2 list, and I thought it was worth sharing here (for a laugh).
(Or a cry.)

REB

Letter to the Editor:

I'm voting Democrat because like most Americans I trust lawyers more
than anyone else; I think only lawyers should run the government, and
all the Democrat Leaders are lawyers: Barack Obama, Michelle Obama,
Joe Biden, John Edwards, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Leader
Harry Reid, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry, to name
just a few. (Al Gore dropped out of Law School, so I don't trust him
as much, except on Global Warming.)

I'm voting Democrat because the Democrats support the trial lawyers
and I think this country needs more lawsuits and less tort reform.
And I don't believe the trial lawyers' contributions have a thing to
do with it.

I'm voting Democrat because Congress has done such a wonderful job
under Democrat leadership the last two years, that I want a lot more
of the same.

I'm voting Democrat because I want to get my health care from the
same competent, efficient, cost-effective, customer-service-focused
folks who run the US Post Office, the Pentagon, FEMA and the state
Registry of Motor Vehicles.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun,
and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from
murderers and thieves.

I'm voting Democrat because Sen. Obama has promised to cut the taxes
of 95% of the people, including the 30% who don't pay taxes.

I'm voting Democrat because Sen. Obama has promised to take away the
secret ballot in union elections, and I think the union bosses should
know if a workingman or woman is with them, or against them.

I'm voting Democrat because Sen. Obama has over three years
experience in the Federal Government, and "Hope" is a great strategy.

I'm voting Democrat because Sen. Obama voted "present" instead
of "yes" or "no" over 120 times in the Illinois State Senate, and I
think we need a decisive president.

I'm voting Democrat because I think that drilling for American oil is
foolish, when we can buy oil from the Middle East.

I'm voting Democrat because I think windmills (except off Hyannis)
are a better answer to reliable, clean energy than Nuclear Energy.

I'm voting Democrat because I don't think we give enough to other
countries in foreign aid.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm for putting up barriers to free
trade, as they did in 1930 with the Smoot-Hawley bill. That made
things much better then.

I'm voting Democrat because I miss the high unemployment, inflation
and interest rates of the Jimmy Carter years.

I'm voting Democrat because parents shouldn't get to choose the
school their kids go to. Parents should leave their children's
education to the teachers and stay out of it.

I'm voting Democrat because I think this is the perfect time to raise
the Capital Gains tax and drive investment money out of the stock
market.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on
a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same
gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better
job of spending the money I earn than I would, and I want to spread
my wealth around to those who earn less—or nothing.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as
nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because, when we pull out of Iraq, I trust that
the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think
we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us
if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will
melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about restoring partial
birth abortions so long as we keep all death row murderers alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that small businesses should
not be allowed to make a profit. They need to break even and give the
rest away to the government for redistribution to people who didn't
start businesses.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the law is what judges say it
is, and not what legislators say -- or the constitution.

I'm voting Democrat because the media would call me a racist if I
didn't.

Robert A. Hall
Des Plaines, IL

I'm shocked-- shocked, I tell you! -- that the writer omitted what is surely the most important of all reasons to vote Democratic:

"In my judgment, anyone who votes Republican or abstains from voting in this election has no understanding of the practical role of philosophy in man’s actual life—which means that he does not understand the philosophy of Objectivism, except perhaps as a rationalistic system detached from the world." (Leonard Peikoff, on the 2006 election)

Barbara  

What makes me sad - and angry - is that this clever, telling, eloquent piece of writing will not be seen other than by Objectivists. This dude, who is funny and can write, apparently things that dropping this into the black hole of an Oist site - where EVERYONE ALREADY AGREES WITH HIM accomplishes anything.

This is the kind of writing that makes people think, can spread by samizdat or word of mouth and can change elections.

But not if no one never hears of it.

Get off your butts people and fight for freedom, rights and reason.

Yes it's hard to get published - whether on the web or in the letters to the editor section of your local papers or in a national publication -- but no excuses.

Stop just venting to a bunch of other Oists!!!

GET OFF YOUR ASSES!!! MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!

(And, YES, I have done things myself to move the culture.)

And, yes, Roger B's transcribing Oist lectures is another example of a way to make a difference.

Phil: "What makes me sad - and angry - is that this clever, telling, eloquent piece of writing will not be seen other than by Objectivists."

Yes, it will. I've already begun sending it to people I know who are torn between McCain and Obama.

Barbara

I have just emailed that piece to everyone on my friends & family mailing list.

A friend of mine is calling radio stations and asking them to dedicate the Beatles "Taxman" to B.O.

So have I, with rather disappointing results so far.

One friend said she is "proudly voting Democratic." Another said she would appreciate it if I didn't use her email address for sending political emails. Yet another, WHO USED TO BE AN OBJECTIVIST AND LIBERTARIAN, sent a long list of alleged violations of civil rights by the Bush administration and said that electing Republicans would only guarantee more of the same, including huge defense budgets.

On the positive side, I did find four "bad" email addresses, which I promptly purged from my ISP's Address Book. :-/ Also, no one has yet tried to have me shut down by complaining to the FCC or FTC or whatever. <sigh>

REB

Roger, I did forgo mailing this to you myself. I figured you might already have seen it. As for the FEC, etc., it is the Secret Service who will be on your doorstep tomorrow for your obvious implied openly veiled death threat.

Horrible thought for the day, which someone pointed out to me: If Barack Obama applied for a job with the FBI or the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his association with a known terrorist, William Ayers. If he is elected president, he could not qualify to be his own bodyguard. And he may be elected president.

I guess I just don't understand Objectivism.

Barbara

"Civil rights" means different things to different people. If one is talking about the so-called rights of minorities, I don't see where Bush has done anything like this.

If one is talking about holding people for years without habeas corpus and/or due process, then there have been many violations of civil rights. This includes a man who was 15 when they picked him up. It also includes an American citizen. It also includes Uyghurs, who are Muslims from Western China and simply want independence from China. They had no beef with the USA before all this went down.

You could also talk about illegal wiretaps, entrapment, and spying on harmless people. Some of the people spied on include anti-death penalty groups.

I don't think either Presidency will make much difference in many of these regards. My greatest fear regarding an Obama Presidency is his extreme anti-gun-rights position. That's about the only standing between our current condition and a dictatorship. Of course, McCain also gets a big F from Gun Owners of America.

The only good thing to come out of the attack on the WTC was that American people actually became much more sympathetic to the rights of gun owners. Many people went out and bought them. Ayn Rand said that America still has a "sense of life." This was definitely a product of that sense of life.

I will be voting for Bob Barr reluctantly. I would vote for Chuck Baldwin if he had made the ballot here in Texas, although Baldwin is an official write-in candidate.

By the way, keep in mind that John McCain is largely responsible for many of those restrictions on political speech. The bill has his name on it.

Similar things have been said about Todd Palin. Both he and Sarah have some connections to the Alaska Independence Party. Actually that makes him a good guy in my book.

It is quite ironic, however, that a state that gets back a lot more federal money than it pays in federal taxes has such a significant secessionist movement.

Heck, it's very possible he was born in Africa, not Hawaii. There is no good documentation for a US birth. The liberal media would have destroyed McCain on such a point, true or not, a year ago--and on many other such points. I've been aware of the liberal media rule of the US since 1960. I was hoping the Internet would have destroyed that monopoly this year, but the economic situation is overwhelming him regardless. I'll probably be living in Thailand in several years, psychologically stateless. Why not? The African and Asian malarial genocide perpetrated by the US is enough reason to wash my hands of this place. The only saving grace is it's a defacto genocide (through dejure policy), not a de jure genocide such as the Holocaust. So as the US turns into carrion for freedom haters and the world descends further into fascism, as opposed to the totalitarianism of communism and Naziism, people will suffer more and more.

--Brant

Chris B.; The same is true of the province of Quebec in Canada.

Is the Alaska Independence Party actually on some list?.

Some people debate McCain's birth as well. He was born in the Canal Zone. The Canal Zone was never a state.



It's just taking longer than you think. I agree with you that the legacy media are the main problem.



What do you like about Thailand?

I was thinking the same thing back in 1991, before I got into Rand. I was only 20 at the time. Of course, I am still here. Leaving the country is never as easy as one wants to think it is. It probably would have been easier then than now.

Many Americans are unhappy with what is going on now. They claim to be unhappy about the trillion-dollar ripoff, for example. Well, what the hell are they doing about it? I firmly believe that the majority of Americans are getting exactly what they deserve. I have little sympathy for most of them. If the people are someday wandering the streets in poverty and famine, I will say that they have gotten exactly what they deserve. They most definitely have.

From the web site of the Alaska Independence Party:

"The problem with you John Birchers' is that you are too damn liberal!"
~ Joseph Vogler, Founder Alaskan Independence Party


Platform and Goal
of the
Alaskan Independence Party

Preamble

We affirm that all political power is inherent in the people; that all government originates with the people, is founded on their will only, is instituted to protect the rights of the individual; that all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the enjoyment of the rewards of their own industry; that all persons are equal and entitled to equal protection under the law. We stand on a firm constitutional foundation.

Platform
We pledge to exert our best efforts to accomplish the following:

1. To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.
2. To support and defend States' Rights, Individual Rights, Property Rights, and the Equal Footing Doctrine as guaranteed by the constitutions of the United States of America and the state of Alaska.
3. To advocate the convening of a State Constitutional Convention at the constitutionally designated 10 year interval.
4. To reinforce the unalienable rights endowed by our Creator to Alaska law, by eliminating the use of the word "privilege" in the Alaska statutes.
5. To amend the Constitution of the State of Alaska so as to re-establish the rights of all Alaskan residents to entry upon all public lands within the state, and to acquire private property interest there in, under fair and reasonable conditions. Such property interest shall include surface and sub-surface patent.
6. To foster a constitutional amendment abolishing and prohibiting all property taxes.
7. To seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution.
8. To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature.
9. To preserve and protect the Alaska Permanent Fund, Permanent fund earnings, earnings reserve fund and individual Permanent Fund Dividends.
10. To provide for the direct popular election of the attorney general, all judges, and magistrates.
11. To provide for the development of unrestricted, statewide, surface transportation and utility corridors as needed by the public or any individual.
12. To affirm and assert every possible right-of-way established under R.S. 2477 of July 26, 1866, before its repeal by the Federal Land Management Policy Act of October 21, 1976.
13. To support the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.
14. To support the complete abolition of the concept of sovereign or governmental immunity, so as to restore accountability for public servants.
15. To support the rights of parents to privately or home school their children.
16. To support the privatization of government services.
17. To oppose the borrowing of money by government for any purposes other than for capital improvements.
18. To strengthen the traditional family and support individual accountability without government interference or regulation.
19. To support the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, according to their conscience.
20. To support "Jobs for Alaskans...First!"

Confirmed by Statewide Convention
Fairbanks, Alaska 2008
All other copies are void

Ah, but Parti Quebecois is about defending French culture from English culture, not money.

English culture my ass. American culture! Every intellectual ass on the planet hates it.

--Brant

****AN ANGRY RANT (FROM THE SCHOOLMARM)****

http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/ ==> "A short op-ed I wrote for Fox News' Fox Forum on the threat either a McCain or Obama presidency poses to freedom is the featured commentary for the weekend."

Leaving aside those who work for ARI or TAS, why is it that 91.375% of the time when I read of a rank and file Objectivist making an effort to protest, to change the world, to strike a blow for freedom, it's an ARI-leaning Objectivist? Not a TAS-leaning one? Not just a daily poster only on these websites.

Full of lots of advice for the small internal circle of ineffectual people. Not willing to go out there in the real world. And fight for himself first. And thus all of us.

***Why is that, huh?****

Notice that this guy, Nick Provenzo, is a nobody. But he is a tough ex-marine. Someone who knows about fighting. And making an effort. Instead of just sitting on his big, fat, whining butt.

And Diana Hsieh, even though she doesn't have the world's greatest understanding of Objectivism, has been fighting against big government, going public, starting committees and activism.

Perfect idiot though she is, on many issues related to Oism, she still earns my respect for being PASSIONATE ABOUT FIGHTING FOR HER VALUES. There are a few people posting here who have done something to fight for their values. Myself included. My sphere is not politics, but I've actually advanced Objectivism in a small way. (As have for example, Barbara and Robert B, and Roger

But what have so many of you freakin' loudmouthed nitpicking dudes -- especially the ones who seem to have nothing to do but make five one-liner posts on five threads in a space of fifteen minutes -- done to EVEN MAKE A DENT in the last five years?

Or even TWENTY years?

.......

"First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me."

--Martin Neimoller, 1945

Phil, why not -- instead of generalized scolding -- suggest specific actions the "freakin' loudmouthed nitpicking dudes" might take "to protest, to change the world, to strike a blow for freedom"?

Barbara

Hang in there, Phil.

--Brant

> Phil, why not -- instead of generalized scolding -- suggest specific actions the "freakin' loudmouthed nitpicking dudes" might take "to protest, to change the world, to strike a blow for freedom"?

Barbara, good idea, since it may not be obvious to everyone how many things can be done.

In college and early on, I learned how to write short publishable pieces on a small scale. My college newspaper published probably nearly every letter I sent them across four years. Everybody knew my name and I didn't even need my own bar stool. You learn how to shorten, polish, essentialize. Practice, practice, practice. Later, I published letters in national newspapers. For those who live outside of a big city, the standards for a publishable letter are much lower. Small town papers are especially DESPERATE for anyone to comment on what they publish and to know that their pages are not simply being used to line litterboxes.

So those of us who live there can do that. It is amazing how a couple hours work (yes, it takes that long and multiple edits - DBL - don't be lazy) in rewriting can get you into the local paper and be read by the population of your town or small city.

You can reach five hundred, a thousand, ten thousand people that way. And it affects editor's ideas on what is newsworthy, what points of view are worth hearing, learning more about.

(In a way, I'm hesitant to recommend this here because we have people who have bad writing habits, alienate rather than convince - the instant post habits of the kneejerk poster who doesn't rethink his words or who is vague or sloppy or imprecise or rambling.)

A few months back, thru Randex I saw a southern liberal columnist for a local paper write some unfair and inaccurate things about Rand and Objectivism. I fired off a polite letter "thank you for the good points...a, b, c...and for not ignoring her ideas, but I'm afraid you are mistaken on d, and e". It only took some minutes across several days, but I exhanged a half dozen emails with him.... and I think I moved his thinking a little bit away from the Left.

Most importantly, I was able to zero in more precisely on the -kinds- of misconception that are out there. And I'll be even sharper or more accurate next time I have to see that coming.

It's possible, in the era of blogs to be published even nationally as in the Fox News example - get heard online by a larger audience and different audience than oists.

You can call in to radio shows.

It is important today to protest biased on dishonest journalism. Several times in the last few weeks I have written a letter of complaint or posted 'reader comments' on national sites. Then I've seen that they were actually posted and could be read by thousands.

Once you are a -good- writer or a non-ranting call in guest to a radio show [hint: Do NOT post insults or condescending comments or do a rant when you call in. An example of what not to do in public is what I did on this list: using language like "freakin' loudmouthed nitpicking dudes" - it's okay internally when I want to kick a little butt. And pretty much no one is listening :-).

But you can't do that in public. You don't know those people, haven't spent years in dialogue, and first impressions matter. In other words you can't rant. If you are going to vent, rather than be logical (it is the rare person who either alcohol or rage makes more lucid), PLEASE do not follow any of the advice in this post.

You'd help us all better if you just kept your mouth shut.

If you are not a good communicator with those who don't already share Oism, it is possible to make changes or work to spread or help Oism. I started campus clubs. One in college, one in grad school, more than a half dozen in one city where I lived. And community clubs. But again, if you have never been a leader or student government types or don't have social skills, better leave this to others.

People on these oist sites often talk about demonstrating or signing a petition. That has a lot less impact than a letter to the editor. You'd be surprised how -easy- it is to get published as a letter writer. If you have studied and thought this thru. My own record over the years is that I ALMOST NEVER had a letter rejected, even to liberal publications or places that get tons of letters like the NYT.

And someday, maybe, we'll have people who have done some of the preceding. Learned how to be successful. And develop the taste to take it to the final level:

The rarest skill of all is that of a -great- writer who can take an abstract theory like Oism and apply it, bring it down to earth, answer all the objections. We don't have anyone like that today. No Orwell. No Mark Twain. No Mencken. No Dickens.

And certainly no Rand or Shakespeare in our ranks. (But again you ain't gotta be no shukspeare to ged yo stuff published. Jus ha good grammer and pnnctushun; and spell pretty,)

Barbara, please feel free to add to this.... It's only a preliminary list.

Another idea is you can HELP SOMEBODY who has really good ideas, or a worthwhile project, or is struggling to be heard, to publish, to make an impact, to spread Oism or any very positive application.

There is a broad spectrum of kinds of help.

Someone starts a campus club or wants to and you volunteer to pitch in. You do clerical work or office help or spend a day making phone calls or raising money for someone starting an Objectivist publication. You offer web hosting or help.

Roger B and several others on this list are helping NB and BB get their work into print. That is a very big deal. And I'm sure quite time-consuming. People who contribute to ARI or TAS - either money or as volunteers, if they are in a position to do so.. Not just advice - the one thing I suspect they are not short of. Unless it's a truly original insight or analysis or idea they've never heard of. People who speak at conferences are helping.

Can even be small. Ed Hudgins posted yesterday his most recent and very good article ‘obama chicks in bondage’. Result: dead silence. I posted what was good about it. I don’t know if EH has seen it yet. But it’s an issue of justice. And support

One of the things that has come more and more to disgust me about so many people on these lists is that they talk a good game. But in practice they often seem dead to justice. Peikoff made a very good point when he said rendering justice is not only about punishing or criticizing the bad, but praising and rewarding the good.

The just man does both.

One kind of help is moral support. Just an email saying great article. Can be as short as a pat on the back. Or one line: "Thanks, many good points" / or "I learned a lot". There are times when those of us who try to write or lecture have simply been demoralized when no one said anything about what we did. When I helped organize all of the campuses in Southern California and helped ARI enormously do something they thought was impossible, after a stint of that I simply stopped and went back to my own professional work.

For a very simple reason: No one had ever said two simple words. "Thank you".

Help Somebody - the two most neglected words in Oist circles. A lot of takers. Not a lot of givers.

Phil; Really great post.

The part of your post about praising the good as well as condemning the evil being a huge part of justice is worth remembering and being reminded of. Thank you.

At the last Summer Seminar I made a contribution to the scholarship fund. I was very pleased when one of the students brought me a thank you card. Sadly she was the only one the scholarship who did this. At the next Summer Seminar I plan to reinforce this message.

May I add that while I may not agree with you always I appreciate your posts.

Phil, I spend a good deal of my time assisting people who are writing books or articles helpful to the cause of reason and freedom by editing, supplying information, contacting possible agents, advising, etc. Some of you have been and will be reading books to which I have made small or large contributions. Apart from doing my own work, this is about all I have the time for these days.

Barbara

As an individual who values his own life and freedom, who is also an Oist, I have joined the Campaign For Liberty which is a group of over 100, 000 former Ron Paul supporters.

I encourage people I meet who are disillusioned about the ridiculous choices we have to become our next president, to join the Campaign For Liberty too.

I have every hope that the Campaign For Liberty will grow exponentially as I have always hoped that the Objectivist movement would grow since I discovered it in 1968. I still hope that the Objectivist movement will grow as it has so much to offer a person besides the perspectives about politics.

I sense an energy and passion within the Campaign For Liberty movement which motivates those within the movement to pass the torch to others. I expect that the painful consequences of the Obama presidency will only serve to cause more people to be awakened to the necessity of a more rational alternative. Ayn Rand used to suggest that we get involved within the Republican Party. I expect that the CFL will support people running for office within the Republican Party. I believe it is his devotion to Constitutional limits and sound money more than his antichoice position which appeals to so many of his supporters.

!.2 million people voted for Ron Paul in the primaries. If each of them reaches out and recruits another to the movement every six months the numbers will double and redouble, 2.4 M then 5M in one year. Ten and then 20 M in another year. 40 and then 80 in the third year! That is enough to win the presidency!

Reason and rationality are on our side. Join us and become part of the Campaign For Liberty movement. All you have to do at minimum is to selectively inform others you encounter to the existence of this movement which promises to restore our Constitutional Republic. www.campaignforliberty.com

In addition you can bring the wisdom of the Objectivist philosophy to others within the movement. They have already shown they are open to the wisdom Ron Paul gave them about the Federal Reserve. They are open to learning more about the Austrian School of economics. Ron Paul recommended Atlas Shrugged in his best seller.

Greenspan admits he made a mistake and said this crisis was unpredictable but we, Objectivists and CFL members know that Ron Paul predicted this years ago because of his understanding of Austrian economics.

You folks are a hard sell. Just watch over time. I know most of you are unlikely to join the CFL now but if they are as successful and effective as I like to think I have reason to believe perhaps you will join with us in the future. I even joined the Republican Party in February after being a lifelong Libertarian. I will vote for the LP this time to help them with ballot access. I am active in my local Congressional district and we are planning to run a businessman for Congress next election as a Republican. Our present Congressman voted for the bailout despite our emails to him.

Wm

Dream on. American voters -love- what they believe are benefits coming from the government. They will not abolish the welfare state at the ballot box. The only way we are going to get rid of the welfare state is by its collapse.

Ba'al Chatzaf

> Phil, I spend a good deal of my time assisting people who are writing books or articles helpful to the cause of reason and freedom by editing, supplying information, contacting possible agents, advising, etc. Some of you have been and will be reading books to which I have made small or large contributions. Apart from doing my own work, this is about all I have the time for these days. [Barbara]

Barbara, if every person alive today (or during the past several decades) who agreed with Objectivism and felt that it was vitally important that it be understood in order to change the world for the better did ***one hundredth of one percent*** of what you've done in your lifetime to advance the ideas

--- from starting a lecture organization and magazine to the things you list above ---

we would already have a major foothold in the culture and would be on the way to winning in a not too long amount of time.

Thank you, Phil.

Barbara

Sounds pretty good except for point 10. Election of judges leads to political corruption --- "I'll rule for you if you donate money to my political campaign."

Darrell

(I didn't write the following poem, and I don't know who did.
It's all over the Internet, with no attribution. Enjoy! REB)

'Twas the night
before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!

I in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.

When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys

They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!

He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink

He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!

' On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi'
He screamed at the pairs!

They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn't stand up and fight!

So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

21 Reasons Why Sarah Palin Should NOT be Elected Vice-President of the United States :



1) She is a Woman.

2) She does not believe in killing babies, born or unborn.

3) She is NOT endorsed by Susan Sarandon, Jane Fonda, Rosie O'Donnell, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Geraldine Ferrara, Barbara Walters, Helen Thomas, Ellen DeGeneris, Ted Kennedy, Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, Barbra Streisand or David Letterman.

4) She is married to a 'Native American'--meaning her five children are half-breeds.

5) She has on more than one occasion expressed PRIDE in the United States of America .

6) Unlike decent, self-respecting Democrats everywhere, she has a 17-year-old daughter who became pregnant out of wedlock.

7) She is a member of the American Riflemen's Association / actually owns firearms / and knows how to use them.

8) She has killed a moose, among other animals--and spreads the propaganda that it is hunters, through their license fees, that keep American wildlife from becoming extinct.

9) She often does her own grocery and other household shopping.

10) She drives a car, and flies a plane.

11) She chose to give birth to a defective child, rather than allow a skilled Abortion Doctor to kill it for her.

12) She refuses to apologize for seeking the termination of an Alaskan State Trooper just because he applied a gentle taser to his 12-year-old stepson (who, of course, happened to be Gov. Palin's nephew).

13) She is inexperienced. And she refuses to admit that her duties as the chief executive in the State of Alaska are nowhere near equal to those of a public servant who was once a Community Organizer, or that of a United States Senator who has carried the awesome burden of overseeing a staff of political appointees.

14) She has a son who is in the U.S. . Military, deployed to the Persian Gulf --probably making her prejudiced against all the peaceful Muslims in that part of the world.

15) She is on Oprah Winfrey's 'Do Not Invite' list.

16) She professes to be a Christian, but has no 'Spiritual Adviser'-- even though Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who served Sen. Obama in that capacity for 20 years, is now available.

17) She isn't really a 'beauty queen,' as advertised. She was only the runner-up in the Miss Alaska Contest; and Alaska is not a very populous state, anyway.

18) The Obama-Biden ticket is favored over McCain-Palin, 80% to 20%, by our friendly allies in France .

19) Her children are not properly trained in hygiene. (Did you see her 7-year-old daughter shamelessly lick the entire palm of her hand at the Convention, then use it to slick down the hair of her little brother?)

20) She is of mixed English, German, and Irish ancestry--and you KNOW you can't trust the Limey's, Krauts, or Micks.

21) Back to No. 1: This is the one that really galls modern, liberal 'feminists.' Gov. Palin is a Woman, a female-type wife and mother, who shaves her legs, wears makeup, dresses smartly, often cooks meals for her family, doesn't give a hoot about the National Organization for Women or the all-powerful Teachers Unions--and obviously will never, ever fit in as a member of the Washington Elite.

Do we want a person like this to be the Vice President of the United States ? ?

Roger; These all sound like good reasons to vote for her.

hee, hee. Now you know why those Old White Guys at the Republican Convention, suffering from chronic erectile dysfunction, got wood for the first time in twenty years.

Ba'al Chatzaf