ACORN for Kids



Originally from Lucianne. Stored here.

The cartoon is very funny and accurate.

The Washington Post had an article about all the Democratic registrations which I think with these reports might be rethought.

Finally I have a comment on this issue on my OL blog on this issue.

I spoke in jest too soon.

How about Mickey Mouse???

Vote drives defended, despite fake names
By Richard Danielson, Times Staff Writer
St. Petersburg Times
Tuesday, October 14, 2008

From the article:


Also, apparently the Dallas Cowboys signed up through ACORN.

Michael

Election fraud is not unknown. Being "on the wagon" originated with corrupt precincts of the mid-19th century. Everyone knows that Richard Daly's Cook County machine swung Illinois for Kennedy-Johnson with the ballots of dead people. These are all famous examples, as are the stories of "watered stock" (cattle first, then equities) used by robber barons. Egregious examples are egregious, by definition.

Having been employed by my township clerk as a precinct poll worker, and having been trained in that capacity according to state law by my county clerk's election office, I assure you that Mickey Mouse is not going to cast a ballot except in a corrupt precinct. Furthermore, such a violation would have to escape any audit.

A precinct is corrupt when there is an overwhelming majority for one party working the polls. Let there be two (or more) party representatives on-site and fraud is difficult to impossible. Let that corrupt precinct roll up to a jurisdiction of a different party and there will be an audit.

Moreover, you have no way to know, prove or falsify any of those assertions. Mickey Mouse ballots from an ACORN office could be a dirty trick -- and you fell for it because you want to believe it.

Election fraud is real. Personally, based on my experience, I believe that the farther you are from the precinct, the more likely the falsehoods. I think the national election was decided a year ago in Davos, Switzerland. The more local an election is, the more honest it is.

Kennedy seems to have gotten Texas through fraud too. That plus Illinois did the trick. Nixon later thought he escaped the assassination that got Kennedy and was glad not to have contested the election. Johnson probably won his first Senate race that way.

--Brant

Michael,

There is a tiny bit more context than wanting to believe it. Not much. Just a little. Like an avalanche of false registrations in a whole lot of states across the country.

Also, you are free to express your opinion to Richard Danielson if you like. He's probably a terrible professional. Maybe you can get him fired.



Michael

Michael,

Let's try to get Drudge fired while we are at it.



I really don't see why anyone would be upset by all this Acorn stuff anyway. Anyone in his right mind can figure out that just because Acorn registered thousands upon thousands of false voters nationwide, it had no intention for all these people to commit voter fraud. It's just silly to imagine that.

Besides, you might be on to something and this might be a nationwide dirty trick by the different state and federal law enforcement agencies (including a judge and Secretary of State or two) to discredit the fine people at Acorn.

It's a cold cruel dirty world, this world of politics...



Michael

Acorn seems to putting a great number of false registrations in a good number of states. It may not mean much with Obama getting a very big margin but if it is close than his election maybe doubtful like Kennedy's was.

Michael M; Your comment that the winning candidate was picked in Switzerland last year is just silly. I think some group like that would have picked Hillary.

I think so, too. Obviously, you and I just not Davos material.

MSK -- Voting as a right goes back a long, long way in this country, to a time when (1) most people were known to their neighbors although (2) no one carried identity cards. Thus, the age-old allowances (see, however below about Kentucky and Indiana) that no one will be turned away for lack of identification.

So, at each polling place (in theory) challengers can observe the process and can challenge any voter.

An election challenger working for one party or another party or no party can always observe the election process at any polling place. We have open elections here in America. If you fear that Mickey Mouse is going to slip one (or two) votes past the sleeping watchdogs, please, feel free to show up yourself and do the hard work of protecting democracy. I have been paid (twice) as a precinct poll worker, a job for which I received state-certified training from my county clerk's election office. So, I speak from personal experience and a bit of expertise. You can believe whatever you want.

(I say, "in theory" because the reality of precinct politics is that some places are not as open as others. It's not for nothing that police departments and election districts are both divided into "precincts." Also, ballots go from the precincts to the county clerk. From there, they go to the secretary of state. That's how we do it in Michigan. The process must be more or less the same everywhere, but maybe you can report the details to us here about how it is where you vote.)



If there is a real threat to the integrity of the election process, it seems to originate in a different sector entirely:


Here is a video on how to hack a voting machine.
How to hack Michigan's optical scanner voting machines
Michael-David BenDor demonstrates how an optical scanner voting machine can be hacked in under five minutes using everyday tools. So, if you want to rig the next election in Michigan, this is the video tutorial for you. Don't agree with the next popular president or governor? Then see how to hack and get around the presidential seal in the voting machine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5yH78elt7I
(Correction: The description above, taken from another website, is wrong about the seal. The seal is from the Secretary of State's Office. It is lead and is crimped shut. -- MEM)

Here is what COMMON CAUSE has to say:

501(c-3)Organization Name and Amount of Budget spent on Administration and Fundraising

ACORN 5.7%
American Cancer Society, California Division 23.3%
American Red Cross of the National Capital Area 13.8%
Feed The Children 13.2%
International Association of Fire Chiefs 18.6%
Islamic-American Zakat Foundation 7.9%
National Crime Prevention Fund 7.6%
The Sierra Club Foundation 12.4%
World Wildlife Fund 15.2%

All these charities must meet the Combined Federal Campaign’s 10 accountability standards. These standards include low overhead: generally under 25%. (We tell you how much each charity spends on overhead.)

You can take a tax deduction for gifts to all these. Legally, they are nonprofit, tax-exempt, "501 ©(3)" organizations. A "c-3" organization can do some lobbying and other types of advocacy, but it cannot engage in partisan political activity (such as endorsing candidates). In contrast, "c-4" organizations are nonprofit and tax exempt, but gifts to most of them cannot be deducted from your taxes (the exceptions are veterans organizations and fire and rescue squads). C-4s can engage in partisan political activity.

http://www.charitablechoices.org/

Michael,

Well I guess you just proved that voter fraud never happens in America and Acorn was registering those truckloads of false voters all around the nation just to spoof and horse around.

Gosh, gee. Now I can sleep better at night.

It sure is a great country when you don't have to worry about the activities of organizations like Acorn. Swell folks, them...

Why not send your post to Acorn? I know they will appreciate it. They might still be hiring.





Michael

Ah Chicago! Where the dead vote early and often.

Ba'al Chatzaf