Yep, there was still science and progress in Nazi Germany too even though genocide wasn't "optimal policy" either.
While I don't agree with Herb's voting tactics, I do agree that creationism teaching religious conservatives are more dangerous than Obama care. It's one thing to stifle motivation and socialize medicine, it's another thing altogether to deny science outright, and leave things to god. There are many western countries that have socialized medicine, and while that Is not an optimal policy, there is still science and progress.
I missed this one earlier. Charming.I kinda forgot what it was like to argue with objectivists. Thanks for jogging my memory.