On a more serious note, there's a difference between a standard and a goal. It is entirely possible for a person to use an effective standard to pursue a very bad goal. A standard merely gives you something to measure against within specific confines. A goal is the actual concrete (or concrete experience) in your own life you pursue. (NB has a recent article on this somewhere.)
So Michael says: the Miller/Jesus uses the donation and communication aspects of the free market well enough to achieve his goals. He's within the free market ideal since he is not using force, but instead, merely offering his services in the marketplace of ideas. However, his goals are really wacko. God bless him.
In case N. Branden's article can be accessed online, if you could give a link, TIA.
A standard and goal are differenent things, no question.
So a person having a 'wacko' goal can still 'rationally' make use of standards to promote the goal.
And please stop. You're blowing my cult leader gig with this constant wondering about what Rand would say.
You are right.
For the cult thing is not going to work with all that hypothesizing, questioning, and "what if" scenarios.
So let's concentrate our mental efforts on the cult thing again. Somewhere upthread, you have already provided a list of necessary ingredients for a successful cult.
The main obstacle I see in creating an Objectivist cult is the 'pleasure' part. Some cults practise 'bacchantic' celebrating in all its forms, but since people tend to becme pretty 'irrational' during such bashes
, this can be no option because it would go against the standard of rationality required.
The same goes for other kinds of extasy often practised in cults like shaking, trembling, banging one's head against the floor, etc. Again, a no-go area for an Objectivist cult.
Instead Objectivsts are required to always remain in a state of fully conscious awareness, they constantly have to assess their thinking and actions in terms of rationality, etc.
All that sounds a bit, well, pleasureless, and I think one would have to work at least some kind of pleasure factor into the Secret Objectivist cult thing, but have no idea what it could be. Any suggestions?
(btw - What are your thoughts on tithing? I gotta work this into my plans somehow... )
Working tithing into the Secret Objectivist cult plan should pose no problem because one can use rational arguments here.
I have been an advocate of tithing ever since I came across the financial advice to save one tenth of my income ("Pay yourself first", it said in a book I bought on handling money). The book assured me that, with a little adjustment, I could live well on the remaining 90 per cent. Although I was bit skeptical because I'm not very thrifty, I thought I might give it a try. To my surprise, it worked.
It was actually the best financial advice I ever acted upon. Highly recommendable!
So all you have to do is to rationally convince potential donors that they will be able to live well on their remaining 90 per cent while giving a tenth of their income to a great cause of supreme value, and you will see the bucks accumulate on the SOC account.
As they are donations, they may even be tax deductible for the followers, so there's another incentive.
Edited by Xray, 25 September 2011 - 10:47 PM.