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#121 Robert Campbell

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:14 AM

If you're undertaking a composer biography and you have the requisite skill to write about both the person and the music, more power to you.

But such combined skill sets are scarce, and if you don't possess both it's best to focus on what you are able to write about.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 04:17 PM

Update:

I received a call from Jeff Britting today at 4:15 p.m. He was very friendly and offered me the following link:

http://www.aynrand.o...3.pdf?docID=123

Additionally, I was told that he would send me a copy of their researcher's agreement, if I ever wish to discuss gaining access to the archive in the future. Mr. Britting also stated that a new article regarding their policies will be published in the next week or so.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:41 PM

Ted, I'm glad you do have a sense of humor. Do you have a cat?


I am a fan of lolcats, not so much in-the-flesh cats. I am quite allergic, and my eyes burn immediately upon entering all but the cleanest cat-owners' houses. I am offended by owners who let their cats roam free outside - but the owner is to blame, not the cat. As a teen I was babysitting a neighbor's child and the reaction I had to their cat was so bad I had to have him dial the phone for help. Thank god he was a very smart first grader. I generally dislike cats as stupid and aloof, but have enjoyed a few whose owners took the time to train them well, like dogs, as an old girlfriend did.

Edited by Ted Keer, 13 August 2010 - 05:42 PM.




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#124 Robert Campbell

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:26 PM

Mr. Britting also stated that a new article regarding their policies will be published in the next week or so.


Randall,

I'm glad you heard from him.

And it's about time that the Archives updated a 10-year-old policy (I've seen that Archives Annual from 2000) which they weren't actually following in the first place.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 08:02 PM

I wonder whether the article that Randall mentioned has in fact appeared.

After the McCaskey affair, are the Archives really going to be opened to a wider range of scholars?

Meanwhile, Jim Valliant's book remains out of print.

Today, a new copy will set you back at least $106.61, if you buy it from a vendor who lists with amazon.

That's a steep price to pay for a legendarily bad piece of writing.

And PARC's book sales rank is down to 1,238,055th at amazon.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:59 AM

PARC is no longer being sold by the Ayn Rand Bookstore. A search on "Valliant" turns up only his old video about Leonard Peikoff. A search on the book's title turns up nothing at all.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:08 PM

PARC is no longer being sold by the Ayn Rand Bookstore. A search on "Valliant" turns up only his old video about Leonard Peikoff. A search on the book's title turns up nothing at all.

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Damn! Why now? The book makes such a great stocking stuffer!!!

BTW, I thought you'd stopped posting here, where did I read that...oh yeah, Phil said it was because of the dismissive one-liners. I figured you were just busy with other things, but Phil, well Phil's always got the inside dope on other people's motives.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:33 PM

Good to see you Robert... so I guess you got my bribe in the mail and the welcome back directive...
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 11:37 AM

I figured you were just busy with other things, but Phil, well Phil's always got the inside dope on other people's motives.


ND,

I was busy indeed with other things. Such as working on a book on jazz history, helping Chris Sciabarra get the Journal of Ayn Rand Studies back on schedule...

I got to the post from Phil that you linked, and had to unignore it to see what it said. I haven't heard from Phil in a couple of years, so how would he know?

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 01:46 PM

I haven't heard from Phil in a couple of years, so how would he know?


He probably used his "largeness of mind."

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 02:49 PM

PARC is no longer being sold by the Ayn Rand Bookstore. A search on "Valliant" turns up only his old video about Leonard Peikoff. A search on the book's title turns up nothing at all.

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Robert,

I searched on the ARI site and came up with an entry for the book. See here and scroll to the bottom. But if you click the "buy now" button, it goes to an empty page at The Ayn Rand Bookstore. I tried the search function there and I got the same lack of results you did.

PARC is one piece of Objectivist trash that is dying a well-deserved intellectual death. And Valliant is getting his due discredit for being such a dishonest and incompetent bonehead.

What's worse, go look at the Amazon reviews (there are 45 as of right now, see here). PARC serves as an instrument to throw all the true believers in stark relief as unthinking zombie-like cultists, since the only people making gushes about the book are these same staunch fundamentalist types.

Everybody else, from non-fundamentalist Rand lovers to Rand haters and everyone in-between, complain about how bad the book is.

No one needs to out the O-cultists. They outed themselves--and their snarks and gushes convinced no one.

But it looks like the fundies are beginning to see that you can't turn off your brain like that to promote the irrational hatred of ex-insiders and remain credible with the public at large.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:47 PM


But it looks like the fundies are beginning to see that you can't turn off your brain like that to promote the irrational hatred of ex-insiders and remain credible with the public at large.

Michael


Michael:

I hate to go out on a limb, but maybe it has something to do with objective reality?

You am/are/is, therefore you think...

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:54 PM



But it looks like the fundies are beginning to see that you can't turn off your brain like that to promote the irrational hatred of ex-insiders and remain credible with the public at large.

Michael


Michael:

I hate to go out on a limb, but maybe it has something to do with objective reality?

You am/are/is, therefore you think...

Adam
would love to meet Valiant in a dark alley with my night vision glasses!


Whose project was that book anyway Did the ARI hire him to write it ?

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:06 PM

Subject: Distortion and Oversimplification

> Makes me and others really eager to continue throwing good long posts after dismissive one-liners. [Phil]
> Also helps explain why Roger Bissell, Jim Heaps-Nelson, Robert Campbell, Barbara Branden, Ted Keer and others who like to explore issues in depth and used to post quite often very seldom post here any more. [Phil]

> Phil's always got the inside dope on other people's motives. [ND]
> I haven't heard from Phil in a couple of years, so how would he know? [Robert C]
> He probably used his "largeness of mind." [Jonathan]

In order to convert helps explain and the reference to several people to explains and a reference to one person, I guess you guys used your "smallness of mind", hmmm? <_<

As well as your ability to come up with yet more dismissive one-liners.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 08:17 AM

Subject: Distortion and Oversimplification

Conclusion: Phil is clearly, and simply, an ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gROO7xSTxfY

But here's hoping that even he is having a Merry Christmas!

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:16 AM

To answer Daunce's question in #133: No, I don't think ARI actually commissioned Valliant, but they let him into the archives knowing they could trust him to toe the line. Similarly they set no explicit terms for Paxton when he made his movie.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 05:41 PM

I agree that Mr. Valliant's opus is in no way an Ayn Rand Institute project.

It was a project personally sponsored by Leonard Peikoff. Since Peikoff is the Estate of Ayn Rand, the Archives have to cooperate with anyone who enjoys his sponsorship.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:10 AM

PARC remains out of print.

If you want a new copy, you'll have to cough up $90 at a rare books site.

Today's Amazon sales rank: #1,186,487 in Books.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:34 AM

Gee, I tossed a copy in the trash a few years ago.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:02 PM

I will sell my copy to the first comer at 89 bucks (US, which today works out to 88 Canucki piastres). Has tears stains, and the occasional pencilled-in Are You Insane?


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