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#1 User is offline   Michael Stuart Kelly 

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 04:10 PM

I took this screenshot off of Drudge just now. I thought it was cute.

As President Obama's plans unravel and his popularity tanks and he contemplates the size of the mess he is leaving and gradually becomes aware of the erosion of his power over time, I believe we will see more and more of this. I hate to think of what he is going to be like by the end of his presidency, especially after two years with his hands tied by a Republican congress afraid to further upset its very pissed-off constituency. (That, by the way, is my prediction for what 2010 will bring.)

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 05:17 PM

His "pissed-off constituency" deserves what it's getting. Where were the brains of the people who voted for him when Obama made it clearly, obviously, screamingly evident exactly what ideology he would bring to the White House. This is an angry, determined, ignorant -- and very dangerous -- man. By the time his hands are tied --if they get tied -- we may have Government Motors, First Government Banks, Government Electric, and Government Health Care. In a word, we may have the loving protection of our Savior from cradle to an early grave. I hate to think of what international agreements he'll commit us to as he continues apologizing to our enemies and slapping the faces of our friends. And who knows what a Republican Congress will do?

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 05:42 PM

You forgot to mention the 'green' legislation that is going to change the energy production of the U.S. for quite some time. Just think that if the next big thing is an ice age, what will happen if the oil and coal industries are virtually destroyed by this type of legislation.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 08:09 PM

View PostMichael Stuart Kelly, on Jun 30 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

I took this screenshot off of Drudge just now. I thought it was cute.

As President Obama's plans unravel and his popularity tanks and he contemplates the size of the mess he is leaving and gradually becomes aware of the erosion of his power over time, I believe we will see more and more of this. I hate to think of what he is going to be like by the end of his presidency, especially after two years with his hands tied by a Republican congress afraid to further upset its very pissed-off constituency. (That, by the way, is my prediction for what 2010 will bring.)

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View PostSelene, on Jun 26 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

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The malevolent type not the involuntary


Too weird Michael - evil eyes mentioned withing three days of each other.

I alluded to his cold throat cutter look with that fly video. This guy has the soul of a street thug.

Watch him without the sound. Especially when he gets that far away look in his marxist eyes. He will peer down his condescending nose with those imperious thug eyes.

What was that song ... your lips tell me no no, but there is yes yes in your eyes.

Sounds like a date rape song to me.

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:54 AM

View PostSelene, on Jun 30 2009, 09:09 PM, said:

View PostMichael Stuart Kelly, on Jun 30 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

I took this screenshot off of Drudge just now. I thought it was cute.

As President Obama's plans unravel and his popularity tanks and he contemplates the size of the mess he is leaving and gradually becomes aware of the erosion of his power over time, I believe we will see more and more of this. I hate to think of what he is going to be like by the end of his presidency, especially after two years with his hands tied by a Republican congress afraid to further upset its very pissed-off constituency. (That, by the way, is my prediction for what 2010 will bring.)

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View PostSelene, on Jun 26 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

Mal Occhio

The malevolent type not the involuntary


Too weird Michael - evil eyes mentioned withing three days of each other.

I alluded to his cold throat cutter look with that fly video. This guy has the soul of a street thug.

Watch him without the sound. Especially when he gets that far away look in his marxist eyes. He will peer down his condescending nose with those imperious thug eyes.

What was that song ... your lips tell me no no, but there is yes yes in your eyes.

Sounds like a date rape song to me.

Adam


...or maybe the guy just has intense eyes?
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 04:58 AM

Barbara, what would a Republican congress do? Why, they would have us give prayers to god in thanks.

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 05:21 AM

Some people still don't know how to quote, don't quote every time the whole text with picture and all!
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 02:06 PM

A talisman to ward off the mal ochio:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090616/capt.794...yibVwQ_Hs5JPw--


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Posted 02 July 2009 - 04:51 PM

View PostBarbara Branden, on Jun 30 2009, 05:17 PM, said:

His "pissed-off constituency" deserves what it's getting. Where were the brains of the people who voted for him when Obama made it clearly, obviously, screamingly evident exactly what ideology he would bring to the White House. This is an angry, determined, ignorant -- and very dangerous -- man. By the time his hands are tied --if they get tied -- we may have Government Motors, First Government Banks, Government Electric, and Government Health Care. In a word, we may have the loving protection of our Savior from cradle to an early grave. I hate to think of what international agreements he'll commit us to as he continues apologizing to our enemies and slapping the faces of our friends. And who knows what a Republican Congress will do?

Barbara

Why exactly do you consider government health care as bad? (I suppose you mean public health care, please correct me if I'm wrong).

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 05:23 PM

X-Ray, dear, where exactly are you from? I don't mean what city. I'm inquiring about your home planet.

Just curious.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 05:46 PM

Xray,

Gov't Health Care means you would be forking the bill for someone else's care, as opposed to your own (for those of us who rarely need a doctor's care). You would forego the entitlement and freedom of which doctors you could see. You could assume that the gov't would be in your personal affairs at their whim, since "they" are providing your health care at the expense of "your" tax dollars. The level of care would plummet as a result of everyone being "entitled" to health care. Good luck seeing a doctor at your convenience.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 06:19 PM

View Postginny, on Jul 2 2009, 06:23 PM, said:

X-Ray, dear, where exactly are you from? I don't mean what city. I'm inquiring about your home planet.

Just curious.

Ginny

My home planet is the same as yours; I live in a country which (imo) has a fairly good public health care system.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 06:28 PM

I'm familiar with Germany's health care system. I was born there. Maybe I'm being a fool for asking, but do you think Germany's system is better than ours?
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 06:32 PM

View Postginny, on Jul 2 2009, 07:23 PM, said:

X-Ray, dear, where exactly are you from? I don't mean what city. I'm inquiring about your home planet.

Just curious.

Ginny


LOL! The planet is called Prussia. Prophets like G. K. Chesterton and Isabel Paterson have been warning us against that alien menace since before the Great War.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 06:37 PM

View PostXray, on Jul 2 2009, 03:51 PM, said:

Why exactly do you consider government health care as bad? (I suppose you mean public health care, please correct me if I'm wrong).

From my perspective I'd rather see a doctor than a paper-pushing bureaucrat. From the doctor's, it's about freedom--his freedom. Governments in the U.S.--state and national if not local--have tied medicine into a gigantic, expensive, controlling knot full of third-party payers and private insurance so controlled and mandated it's a joke. When government is involved prices go through the roof and quality into the crapper. You see this at all levels of public education which most private schools have to mimic. In medicine. Where government is at freedom is not. Government is force (George Washington).

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 07:42 AM

View Postginny, on Jul 2 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

I'm familiar with Germany's health care system. I was born there. Maybe I'm being a fool for asking, but do you think Germany's system is better than ours?

I'm not familiar enough with the American health care system to answer that. All I can say is that I can't complain about ours here, although it is being discussed controversially too.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 07:52 AM

The German health care system has an excellent reputation here.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 08:03 AM

View PostTed Keer, on Jul 2 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

LOL! The planet is called Prussia. Prophets like G. K. Chesterton and Isabel Paterson have been warning us against that alien menace since before the Great War.

I'm not from Prussia, which as a state btw has long since ceased existing. :)
But all that categorizing into nationalities is of zero interest to me anyway. I don't identify with categories. Doing so would be denying the principle of inividual entity by treating a category as a entity.
This epistemological fallacy plays a pivotal role in the discussion here.
For succumbing to the illusion of categorial identity (thereby denying individual entity) is collectivist thinking, i. e. a denial of individualism.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:03 AM

Xray,

I am still unable to say if you get this stuff wrong because you lack mental skills or whether you are baiting people.

It's always just a little bit wrong.

But you always preach.

That's a hell of a hook, I have to admit.

I am leaning toward you baiting people.

I sense learned discipline in manipulating others, similar to what I observed watching a Jehovah's Witness group training its congregation over a 3 month period (usually on Wednesday nights). Obviously you don't come across as a Jehovah's Witness, but they are not the only ones who train this stuff.



For those reading,

This kind of training involves being in group with a skilled trainer. You learn how to respond to different objections that may be raised by targets, you analyze your targets in depth and categorize them, you learn how to stay congenial under all circumstances—especially hostility, and you take part in theater-like acting out so you can get proficient at baiting engaging and responding before hitting the field.

Many of Xray's posts and responses are canned from this kind of source. Textbook examples, in fact.

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 09:23 AM

View PostXray, on Jul 3 2009, 10:03 AM, said:

View PostTed Keer, on Jul 2 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

LOL! The planet is called Prussia. Prophets like G. K. Chesterton and Isabel Paterson have been warning us against that alien menace since before the Great War.

I'm not from Prussia, which as a state btw has long since ceased existing. :)
But all that categorizing into nationalities is of zero interest to me anyway. I don't identify with categories. Doing so would be denying the principle of inividual entity by treating a category as a entity.
This epistemological fallacy plays a pivotal role in the discussion here.
For succumbing to the illusion of categorial identity (thereby denying individual entity) is collectivist thinking, i. e. a denial of individualism.


You are such a good Prussianist (und ich hab nicht <<Preusser>> gesagt) that you don't even know it. Prussianism is nationalist socialism, inculcated through mandatory public education (e.g. Kindergarten) and instantiated in cradle to grave nanny statism including socialized medicine and the military draft. Now of course, ever since the Nazis won WWII, the US has been providing you with your military defense for free. So you can pretend not to be a militaristic society. But all the other aspects of Prussianism lie in place.
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