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Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:07 PM

I just saw this and it is kinda cool. These kids are not the only ones waiting, but look at their interest.


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Posted 16 July 2009 - 01:14 PM

I just saw this and it is kinda cool. These kids are not the only ones waiting, but look at their interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l_2sHzXDnw


I love the enthusiasm here.
That exchange would be perfect for the movie's trailer, anyway. Those kids have good sense to them.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:44 PM

Do you will inspire as

I just saw this and it is kinda cool. These kids are not the only ones waiting, but look at their interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l_2sHzXDnw


Do you think that the movie will inspire people as well as the book doses?
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:02 AM

It is perhaps the best high school trailer for Atlas Shrugged on YouTube. I posted others a couple of years before and then this in late 2009:

http://www.objectivi...?showtopic=8028

Using tools such as XtraNormal, you will be able to make your own Atlas Shrugged with the movie stars you want - Diana Rigg, Humphrey Bogart, River Phoenix, whoever. When you consider the huge world of "fan fic" in science fiction, the lack of it among Objectivists is telling. But, be that as it may, there are a lot of kids out there influenced by Ayn Rand. I was. In fact the girl in this one sort of reminds me of my girlfriend in high school when we read Rand together.



Do you think that the movie will inspire people as well as the book doses?


No. No more than a movie of Pride and Prejudice or LOTR "inspires" people to read the books. The movies may have that affect on some, of course. Indeed, I only read P&P recently after watching all of the remakes, some more than a few times. I also read Northanger Abbey after watching The Jane Austen Book Club. But really, such movies are typically made for fans. Do you think that the 2009 Star Trek movie boosted sales of DS9 on DVD? In point of fact, I just bought three Star Trek role playing manuals and a Tholian cruiser, but I was already a fan. I think that applies to Atlas, also. Some will be motivated, truly indeed, but, no, largely the movie was made and sold to a precommitted viewership.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:25 AM

It is perhaps the best high school trailer for Atlas Shrugged on YouTube. I posted others a couple of years before and then this in late 2009:

http://www.objectivi...?showtopic=8028

Using tools such as XtraNormal, you will be able to make your own Atlas Shrugged with the movie stars you want - Diana Rigg, Humphrey Bogart, River Phoenix, whoever. When you consider the huge world of "fan fic" in science fiction, the lack of it among Objectivists is telling. But, be that as it may, there are a lot of kids out there influenced by Ayn Rand. I was. In fact the girl in this one sort of reminds me of my girlfriend in high school when we read Rand together.




Do you think that the movie will inspire people as well as the book doses?


No. No more than a movie of Pride and Prejudice or LOTR "inspires" people to read the books. The movies may have that affect on some, of course. Indeed, I only read P&P recently after watching all of the remakes, some more than a few times. I also read Northanger Abbey after watching The Jane Austen Book Club. But really, such movies are typically made for fans. Do you think that the 2009 Star Trek movie boosted sales of DS9 on DVD? In point of fact, I just bought three Star Trek role playing manuals and a Tholian cruiser, but I was already a fan. I think that applies to Atlas, also. Some will be motivated, truly indeed, but, no, largely the movie was made and sold to a precommitted viewership.


Because they made a stupid movie out of it. Lousy script, lousy directing, lousy actors, what else to expect but a lousy movie. I bet a great animation one could be made of it.

And oh you know about fanfic. How about that. 18,000 plus for Twilight. And now Fifty (MOTU) by James best seller. I've done 2 of them. Check my irresistible destiny link. Bel Ami crossed with House of MIrth. Porno of course. and a Twilight one also porno.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:39 AM

<p>Sorry that you did not like the movie. Having watched it four times through in the last year, I still think that Graham Beckel as Ellis Wyatt was the best fit. However, my opinion of Taylor Schilling's delivery has improved. The thing with acting at the multi-mega dollar level is that they really make the time to learn the roles. They learn to ride horses if they don't know how, they take other jobs to see the work, meanwhile, they are on the payroll as stars. This did not have that, not at $10 million. But, still, it was all right, and having watched it several times over several months, I saw more depth in Dagny's delivery. I think that the worst fit was Dr. Hugh Akston. Jsu Garcia as Francisco was problematic on several levels but the scene where she tosses the wine in his face was priceless, even though it was invented for the movie. The scene with Frisco and Rearden was weak for the lack of good writing. </p>
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<div>In terms of the industrial background I really liked the construction of the line. The equipment laying rails was just a thrill to watch. The design of the bridge did not follow the book (a truss with an arch), but was much, much better, with the cables in tension through the ring. When it came on the screen, I stopped breathing for a few heartbeats. It had that effect each time... </div>
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<div>The other big difference is that the director assumes that we know the story, so we see John Galt early on and we get the news flashes of people disappearing. The mystery is lacking. But I look to famous films of famous books - <em>Pride and Prejudice</em> is easy - and being made for fans, there is no attempt at mystery, though the book depends on it. I just watched <em>For Whom the Bell Tolls</em> after reading the book, also. LOTR would be yet another. The movie is not the book and coming after by decades, it assumes that the viewer was a reader. I have done it the other way around, read Alan Dean Foster books based on scifi movies (<i>Alien</i> was one I remember easily). </div>
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

Michael:

I have seen it twice in the movies.

The first showing at 11:30 AM in Chelsea, the day it opened in NY. I was keeping my word to myself that I had made years ago.

There were maybe twenty (20) people in the audience. Afterwards, I spoke to three (3) of them who were followers of Rand. All three (3) were doctors, and, or, medical researchers and we all thought it was wonderful.

I then saw it again in Pennsylvania with someone who had not read any of Rand, but knew of it through my eyes. She was ecstatic and loved the movie. She identified heavily with Dagny and the themes of the movie.

My conclusion from these two (2) experiences was that the movie is an excellent medium for spreading interest to those who are not familiar with the books.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:05 AM

Well, yes .... and truth to tell, when I attended the opening in Ann Arbor, one of the GOP locals had brought three friends who did not read Ayn Rand. They seemed impressed... with the political message...

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:08 AM

Well, yes .... and truth to tell, when I attended the opening in Ann Arbor, one of the GOP locals had brought three friends who did not read Ayn Rand. They seemed impressed... with the political message...


Michael:

Correct. To spread ideas does not have restrictions to philosophy courses. That is one piece of our arsenal.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:16 AM

Atlas Shrugged: Part 1 is available to watch instantly on Netflix now.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 10:09 AM

Inside the Beltway: Ayn Rand, Part 2

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    Enlarge PhotoFilming is now underway for “Atlas Shrugged, Part II” in Los Angeles, timed for national release a few weeks before the November elections. (Image from The Strike Productions).



It’s on the way: “Atlas Shrugged Part II” is now filming in Los Angeles, the second installment of an ambitious independent movie project — due for commercial release in October, just as the presidential election looms. A source says some of the film’s background extra roles will be played by persons of note who, uh, get the significance of Ayn Rand’s original 1957 novel, and this determined undertaking.
“Part I” was released nationally more than a year ago, based on the 1,100-page novel set in the near future when a dystopian America finds its leading innovators, industrialists and artists mysteriously disappearing — resulting in the “stopping the motor of the world.” Producer Harmon Kaslow has thought much about this.
“It’s important to note that Ayn Rand was neither a conservative or a liberal,” Mr. Kaslow tells Inside the Beltway. “Ayn Rand was very simply a staunch supporter of real capitalism. While in her writing Ayn Rand warned of the dangers of crony capitalism and socialism, her primary motive was to highlight what could happen if we fail to acknowledge the rights of the world’s smallest minority — the individual. Our primary motive in making the film is the same.
“What we continue to get excited about are the droves of Ayn Rand and ‘Atlas Shrugged’ fans that continue to find us every day online on Facebook and Twitter. From people that read the book 50 years ago to kids in college that are just discovering Ayn Rand, it’s amazing to experience the diversity, and see new people.”
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:18 AM

David Weigel's review of Atlas ii and interview with John Aglialaro are in the National Post today. He says" the casting change works". And that Aglialoro regrets that Rand used the term "selfishness" and that he if she were on earth today she would probably put it another way. I don't know, I don't think "The Virtue of Rational Self-Interest" has the same ring to it,

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:20 AM

David Weigel's review of Atlas ii and interview with John Aglialaro are in the National Post today. He says" the casting change works". And that Aglialoro regrets that Rand used the term "selfishness" and that he if she were on earth today she would probably put it another way. I don't know, I don't think "The Virtue of Rational Self-Interest" has the same ring to it,


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Dave Weigel on Atlas Shrugged Part II: The 53% shrugged

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- Samantha Mathis plays Dagny Taggart in the new movie Atlas Shrugged: Part II.

“Steve Jobs died,” says John Aglialoro. “But let’s say he disappeared and left a little note that said: ‘Who is John Galt?’ Hey, where the hell’s Steve Jobs? I don’t know. It’s only Earth. Did he get in a spaceship? Where’d he go? In 2012, we’ve got men and women going on strike.”

Aglialoro is the co-producer of the Atlas Shrugged film trilogy, and he is full of rhetorical questions. It’s Sept. 18, and we’re sitting across a table at the Heritage Foundation shortly before the first-ever screening of Atlas Shrugged II: The Strike. Aglialoro’s co-producer, Harmon Kaslow, sits nearby, sporting one of the Atlas pins that sell for $14.95 on the film’s website. Washington is still talking about the video of Mitt Romney deriding the “47%” of voters too dependent on the federal teat to vote Republican.

So Aglialoro wants me to think of Atlas Shrugged as a history of the future. “Most entitlements are promises made by politicians to the unwilling,” he says. “We’ve got generations of people on welfare. That’s not because there weren’t job opportunities, or education, or anything like that. We’ve got a problem of greed on the level of the entitlement class. Not the producers and the entrepreneurs that are creating the tax revenue. They’re the 53%. If we get to the tipping point, 57%, 58%, then you’re going to see people saying: How do I go on strike?”

In the novel, and in these films, the “strike” is the literal disappearance of industrialists and inventors. The 2012 edition of our political dictionary calls these people the “job creators.” They built that. And so on. The Bible-sized novel is broken into three long “books,” so Aglialoro and Kaslow have broken it, faithfully, into three two-hour movies.

In Part I, released early last year, we met the rail company COO Dagny Taggart, the only member of her family business who’d rather take bold, sexy risks than wait for doughy bureaucrats to redistribute wealth for her. She meets Hank Rearden, a billionaire metallurgist who’s invented a product “cheaper, stronger and lighter” than steel. They build a new line and name it after John Galt, a mysterious genius who — coincidentally! — was the first of his kind to vanish and leave a bunch of grubbing, venal government bureaucrats behind to “loot” his good works.

Since that movie came out, and made back around a quarter of its budget (“Zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes,” laughs Aglialoro), the Atlas story has mushroomed. Rep. Paul Ryan was picked to join Mitt Romney’s Republican ticket. A scandal-curious media dug into Ryan’s recent past and discovered that he loved Rand, loved Atlas, had given a speech about it to the Atlas Society — of which Aglialoro’s a member.

“The effect of Romney choosing Paul Ryan was bringing Ayn Rand back into the news,” says Kaslow. “From our perspective, promoting this movie, we need to connect the dots for someone who’s interested in economics, get him or her interested in the film.”

After a short break, we head in from the meeting room to the screening room. For all the mockery, for all the liberal gloating about box-office numbers, the first Atlas film accidentally cast too many successful actors. Taylor Schilling, the original Dagny Taggart, went on to co-star in The Lucky One and the upcoming Ben Affleck movie about the Iran hostage crisis. “She’s a bona fide movie star now,” says Aglialoro. So she’s been replaced by Samantha Mathis, a 1990s star who’s been mounting a kind of comeback. The rest of the cast is also new. It’s libertarian cinema by way of Doctor Who.

And it completely changes the tone of the story. Schilling’s Taggart was all ice and sneers, storming into meetings without disturbing her bouffant. Mathis replaces the sneer with a pout. “Where are they?” she asks her assistant Eddie, as they ride through an emptied-out Manhattan, fueled by $40/gallon gas. “Where are the people who could make a difference?”

“I’m sitting next to one of them,” says Eddie. Taggart/Mathis holds back a sigh.

Our Rearden in Atlas I was Grant Bowler, who treated the character like a smart fed-up tech whiz beset by Asperger’s syndrome. He’s been replaced by Jason Beghe, who woke up hung-over and crammed his mouth full of gravel. His wife catches him coming home from a night with Dagny (in a very un-Rand touch, we don’t see them having sex), and he dares her to divorce him while he changes into fresh clothes.

This casting change definitely works. Rearden has to deliver the big speech of Part II, when he’s called in to a star chamber for selling his metal to a friend and violating the government’s new “Fair Share” law. (In the novel, it’s the “Equalization of Opportunity” law.) On the page, Rearden’s speech is pretentious in all the best ways. “It is not your particular policy I challenge, but your moral premise,” he says. “If it were true that men could achieve their good by means of turning some men into sacrificial animals, and I were asked to immolate myself for the sake of creatures who wanted to survive at the price of my blood, if I were asked to serve the interests of society apart from, above and against my own — I would refuse.” On screen, Rearden/Beghe boils this down into a short defence of “job creators.” And it works! The Rand-curious audience wants to stand up and cheer for this hard-working, word-chewing businessman who’s just trying to pour some damn metal.

But that really is the high point. We get two action scenes — a plane chase and two trains colliding in the “Taggart Tunnel” — but the fullness of Rand’s message can only be delivered through boardroom scenes and phone calls and meetings in Washington. Most of these scenes are deadly. Your fun, as a viewer, may come from an impromptu game of “hey, it’s that guy!” The chairman of the Taggart board — Biff from Back to the Future. The “head of state” (not president) — Ray Wise, the evil dad from Twin Peaks. The talkative security guard — funny enough, that’s Teller of Penn & Teller, protecting her from people waving “We Are the 99%!” signs.

When the third installment comes, in July 2014, we’ll probably get another all-new cast. “It’s hard to lock people down,” says Aglialoro. It’s the great cultural paradox of the Tea Party age. Rand’s dramatic work of dystopian horror can teach Republicans how to think, but it’s teeth-pullingly hard to keep distributors and audiences interested.

“The left dismisses Ayn Rand,” he says. “The version of her that they attack is childish, it’s a cartoon.” But he understands why.” I wish she didn’t say ‘selfishness’ as she did. That she was for ‘selfishness.’ She was human, and probably meant that in a rhetorical way. But if she was on this Earth again, maybe she’d put it another way.”

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

There's a live streaming thingamajig going on right now from an event billed as the first showing of the film. All the actors are there, yada yada yada. So far it's cutting in and out like crazy.

http://www.ustream.t...-shrugged-movie
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

The live stream was a bust, but here's a new clip. Looks pretty good. I like this Rearden better.


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:08 PM

The new Rearden seems to be a big hit with everyone. Maybe they can actually pin him down for part 3.

Incidentally our late lamented Janet has engaged Bandler on this topic on Solo. It is civil so far. I am just waiting for him to go psycho on her or vice versa,

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:45 AM

Here's a new clip from Reason Magazine at last night's Washington showing. I see David Boaz, but no John Allison. No doubt Allison is in Washington, having just taken the helm at Cato what, the day before?


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:20 AM

The live stream was a bust, but here's a new clip. Looks pretty good. I like this Rearden better.


Oh my God!!! Did you see that sculpture to the left of the entrance to Rearden's office? It's abstract! What is Rearden trying to do, destroy man's consciousness?

Boycott the movie!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:40 AM


The live stream was a bust, but here's a new clip. Looks pretty good. I like this Rearden better.


Oh my God!!! Did you see that sculpture to the left of the entrance to Rearden's office? It's abstract! What is Rearden trying to do, destroy man's consciousness?

Boycott the movie!

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No, no, Jonathan. That sculpture is a symbol of the overwhelming evil that has penetrated even to Rearden's office. It was placed there by an envious, mooching employee (Lilian's cousin) while Rearden was out pouring metal. Hank is too busy thinking about Dagny to notice it yet.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:05 AM

Yep...I definitely would be thinking about stripping Dagny and possessing her.
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