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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

After receiving top notch cancer care in the People's Republic of Cuba,  Hugo Chavez has died.

 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

After receiving top notch cancer care in the People's Republic of Cuba,  Hugo Chavez has died.

 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

Ba' al Chatzaf 

Oh no!

 

Shall we wring our collective hands?

 

Shall we weep out collective eyes?

 

Nah...IT'S PARTY TIME ...

 

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

And there's more celebrations...

 

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

Best news I've heard in weeks.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:16 PM

Bu-bu-but, Venezuelans trying to get their money out of the country have been a major source of capital for companies I work for! Y'all are clapping and dancing and I've got some mixed feelings over here! This is how it would be if they actually did 'simplify' the tax code. Like when Bush repealed the Estate Tax, albeit only briefly. You know how long I had to spend learning that shit?

Nevertheless, when the news came across I sang out the beginning of this tune, and by the end a chorus (everyone in earshot) had joined in.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:08 PM

Will Venezuela recover... or spin out of control?  Look at what happened in Yugoslavia when Tito died.  Ayn Rand preferred a communist government to no government.  She wasn't kidding. A power struggle must now play out.  How that is realized may be hard on the people.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

The dictator Hugo Chavez may be dead. But the idea of dictatorship, unfortunately, is still quite alive. The world needs to mercilessly kill off the idea that the Individual should somehow live, and be forced to live, for the sake of god, mankind, or the gov't. The sacred One is an untouchable and deity-like creature which should only live for his own pleasure, enjoyment, excitement, contentment, satisfaction, meaning, purpose, and happiness. So to hell with serving these extraneous and accursed god, mankind, and gov't things!

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:24 PM

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:25 PM

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:28 PM

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

"All men are ruled by a flag or a game."  How about you Kyril?  Are you dedicated to freedom?  Extreme egoism is undifferentiable from nihilism.  Does an amoral middle exist?  I mean, specifically, even if we here grant ourselves a special status of awareness beyond that of the benighted masses whom we see to save from themselves, is that not being ruled by some deity-like entity, a disembodied, non-corporeal idea apart from your own rational self-interest.

 

Harry Browne warned against that in How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World.  He called it The Burning Issue Trap.  (The Headline Trap was a corollary.)  According to Browne (and others such as Skye & Natalee), a rational person is only interested in the freedom that they can get for themselves in their lifetime.

 

Moreover, Chavez was democratically elected, which speaks to the deeper problem of a the philosophical roots of a nation's culture.  Politics is a consequence, nothing more (or less).


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:59 PM

Extreme egoism is undifferentiable from nihilism.  Does an amoral middle exist?  I mean, specifically, even if we here grant ourselves a special status of awareness beyond that of the benighted masses whom we see to save from themselves, is that not being ruled by some deity-like entity, a disembodied, non-corporeal idea apart from your own rational self-interest.

 

Not sure what you mean, Michael. Isn't extreme egoism a strong dedication to individual happiness, while nihilism is a strong dedication to the destruction of others and the self? And I'm not sure how the pursuit of ideals or the good life for the individual means being ruled by a disembodied, non-corporeal idea. 


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

  Ayn Rand preferred a communist government to no government.  She wasn't kidding.

 

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You have a source for that statement by Ayn?

 

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

According to Browne (and others such as Skye & Natalee), a rational person is only interested in the freedom that they can get for themselves in their lifetime.

With an attitude like that I wonder if John Locke would have ever bothered putting pen to paper. Or Rand, come to think of it.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

Bette Davis said to always speak good of the dead......   He’s dead.  Good.






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