I just now skimmed over some of this Hsieh stuff.
It's going as I said it would.
Checking Premises is getting adhesions and as time goes on, as the trickle grows into a stream, Hsieh will discover what an apostated scapegoat feels like, whether she considers herself an apostate or not. They are apostating her and they will not stop until she is tarred and feathered.
(OK... that was a bit too much... but definitely excommunicated, defellowshiped, disconnected, shunned or whatever they call it... maybe depeikoffed... )
She is getting what she gave to Chris Sciabarra, among others (including the Brandens.) I hope she can take it like she dished it out. Because she's not going to have a choice about it coming.
But after the shock and pain wear off once this entire ordeal is over, I sincerely hope she reflects on her own actions. For as hostile and boneheaded as she has been over the years, I believe she can become an intellectual of some value if her critical thinking develops. I see the signs of that possibility, but I'm not going to call it definitely. She has a lot to account to herself (and to others) for.
I don't give any hope for people like Valliant. He sold his soul for the artificial certainty of indoctrinated blindness too long ago. Like the folks entangled in Scientology, I don't believe he has the capacity to even see raw evil practiced by his tribe if it were staring him in the face. Sanitizing history to deceive the public is just as evil as smearing, damn it! But he won't ever see it.
Apropos of Scientology, I've been studying that world for a while now. This Objectivist subculture crap is a piker party by comparison. But at least there are highly intelligent people studying these matters. And I have found several.
In fact, if anyone wants to understand the underbelly of the Objectivist movement, I believe the intellectually responsible (and easiest) way to look into it is to read Steve Hassan (especially his BITE model of mind control). There are several others, but he is top quality. That way an interested person can learn the principles--the real deal principles of how this stuff works--and sidestep all the yelling about Objectivist personalities.
Clarity about principles you never even knew existed is a wonderful thing when you get it handed to you on a silver platter. Especially when you get such clarity and start applying it to the subculture you live in.
Speaking of Hassan, I dare the fundies who are into this schism crap to read Combatting Cult Mind Control and Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves.
I just dare them.
But I'm not holding my breath.
Getting back to Hsieh, it looks like she blocked Valliant from posting on the thread Dennis provided. I'm giving a quote below, but the Valliant block is not the one I find interesting. This is far more illuminating. She is addressing Valliant in it.
Now all Hsieh has to do is let that crack widen and look into the mirror through the fissure.
For the Objectivist movement to run on your principles -- where people are grilled every time that some friend or acquaintance says something that others find objectionable, then denounced for refusing to answer -- would be the height of pathology. I oppose that on principle: it's sheer insanity, and I refuse to take part in it.
I feel for her if that ever happens and I hope she has good friends nearby.
I wonder why I bother to post about this woman and wish her well in my heart. She has always been gratuitously nasty to me--and quite vicious about people I love and respect. I'm not a sanction of the victim kind of person.
Maybe it's because her journey is such a good example of the things I have been thinking about and studying. And I think it's because I see her as a victim of forces (both internal and external) she can't and won't acknowledge right now. As I detect a sincere wish in her to be a good person, in a weird way (but a decidedly distant way), I'm rooting for her to achieve critical rational clarity.