zantonavitch Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 "Those [iranians] who want to promote negotiation and surrender to the oppressors and blame the Islamic Republic as a warmonger in reality commit treason....The reason for continuation of this battle is not the warmongering of the Islamic Republic. Logic and reason command that for Iran, in order to pass through a region full of pirates, needs to arm itself and must have the capability to defend itself....Today’s world is full of thieves and plunderers of human honor, dignity and morality who are equipped with knowledge, wealth and power, and under the pretense of humanity easily commit crimes and betray human ideals and start wars in different parts of the world....Battle and jihad are endless because evil and its front continue to exist.…This battle will only end when the society can get rid of the oppressors’ front with America at the head of it, which has expanded its claws on human mind, body and thought....this requires a difficult and lengthy struggle and need for great strides....The accelerated [nuclear] scientific advancement of the last 12 years cannot stop under any circumstances." --dictator Ayatollah Ali Khamenei; May 25, 2014 (http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/25/irans-supreme-leader-jihad-will-continue-until-america-is-no-more/#ixzz32sZ50Igg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 If we are on the brink of defeat then we should dump our excess nukes on Iran. The should thank us to sending them to Allah where each Iranian man will collect his 72 Virgins. The Israelis have a Samson Policy. the U.S. ought to have one also.If we go down our enemies should not live to enjoy the benefits our our defeat. If we go down we take them with us. Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Yep it must be take a pathological psychotic to the peace table month...It makes sooo much sense to negotiate with a rational person like the Ayatollah "whack job" Ali Khamenei... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 If we are on the brink of defeat then we should dump our excess nukes on Iran. The should thank us to sending them to Allah where each Iranian man will collect his 72 Virgins. The Israelis have a Samson Policy. the U.S. ought to have one also.If we go down our enemies should not live to enjoy the benefits our our defeat. If we go down we take them with us. Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 The US should have went to war with Iran instead of wasting 13 years in Afghanistan. Who arms trains and funds the Taliban? Iran. Who supplied all the rockets the Palestinians lobbed into Israel last year(ish). Iran. Iranian Revolutionary Guard trains and arms alllllllllll of these splinter groups, then sits back and claims "we didnt do that!!". About the only group I know of that Iran doesn't fund or train is the Mujadeen. Why? Because they had their roots as Shah loyalists.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backlighting Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Unless eliminated, cockroaches multiply & spread out.Barry is hardly the "Orkin Man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I vote Debbie Schlussel for president. The cockroaches would be in "never see the sun again mode of hiding!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The US should have went to war with Iran instead of wasting 13 years in Afghanistan. Who arms trains and funds the Taliban? Iran. Who supplied all the rockets the Palestinians lobbed into Israel last year(ish). Iran. Iranian Revolutionary Guard trains and arms alllllllllll of these splinter groups, then sits back and claims "we didnt do that!!". About the only group I know of that Iran doesn't fund or train is the Mujadeen. Why? Because they had their roots as Shah loyalists..as of the year 2000 the U.S. was in no condition to wage war with Iran on Iranian soil. The only mode of attack available to the U.S. (then and now) was to nuke them thoroughly which would have been infeasible.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The only mode of attack available to the U.S. (then and now) was to nuke them thoroughly which would have been infeasible.Bob, are you sure you mean 'infeasible'? We have plenty of deliverable weapons and platforms to launch them in theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The only mode of attack available to the U.S. (then and now) was to nuke them thoroughly which would have been infeasible.Bob, are you sure you mean 'infeasible'? We have plenty of deliverable weapons and platforms to launch them in theater.I assume you have heard of radioactive fallout. In addition to reducing Iran to a glowing molten parking lot the radioactive effluence would have been carried to our friends and our foes. This sort of action does not promote international good will.Nuclear Weapons, especially strategic nukes are a last resort weapon. Iran is a big country, it has vary rough terrain and our army is not large enough to do the job. Iran has a population of 50 million a quarter of which could be converted to Jihadi Crazies if Iran were ever attacked. The only weapon we have to handle a job like that is the thermonuclear bomb and we have already seen that this will make more trouble for us than it is worth.Ba'al Chatzaf Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Nuclear Weapons, especially strategic nukes are a last resort weapon. Iran is a big country, it has vary rough terrain and our army is not large enough to do the job. Iran has a population of 50 million a quarter of which could be converted to Jihadi Crazies if Iran were ever attacked. The only weapon we have to handle a job like that is the thermonuclear bomb and we have already seen that this will make more trouble for us than it is worth.Ba'al Chatzaf Ok, let's assume that we are all on the Presidents DefCon Team, or, whatever you wish to name it.My suggestion, would be, if we have the wsupportive intelligence, would be to find a nice little spot wheein they are secreting on of their centrifuge projects and oblliterate it.A high priority, for me, would be one where we could "trap" low level nuclear radiation.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Nuclear Weapons, especially strategic nukes are a last resort weapon. Iran is a big country, it has vary rough terrain and our army is not large enough to do the job. Iran has a population of 50 million a quarter of which could be converted to Jihadi Crazies if Iran were ever attacked. The only weapon we have to handle a job like that is the thermonuclear bomb and we have already seen that this will make more trouble for us than it is worth.Ba'al Chatzaf Ok, let's assume that we are all on the Presidents DefCon Team, or, whatever you wish to name it.My suggestion, would be, if we have the wsupportive intelligence, would be to find a nice little spot wheein they are secreting on of their centrifuge projects and oblliterate it.A high priority, for me, would be one where we could "trap" low level nuclear radiation.A...That is a limited objective attack. A tactical nuke would do very nicely in that instance. In this case the attack is on the facility, not the entire nation or people. Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 That is a limited objective attack. A tactical nuke would do very nicely in that instance. In this case the attack is on the facility, not the entire nation or people. Ba'al Chatzaf Correct.It certainly gets their attention and it clearly states a simple street rule which is ... ok enough of this crap - stop it or leave the neighborhood... in this case that would be Earth...which they cannot accomplish...therefore, either they stop it, or, the next stratefic target will get taken out ...HiroshimaNagasakiyou get the picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 HiroshimaNagasakiyou get the picture...Images of mushroom clouds dance in my head.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Neutron bombs have little fall out and they leave infrastructure mostly intact. Just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Neutron bombs have little fall out and they leave infrastructure mostly intact. Just sayin...Agreed. First, do we have them?Second, are they depliyable?Thirdly, if so use them tonight.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 use them tonight.Genocide? -- for real? -- 30 million women and children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 use them tonight.Genocide? -- for real? -- 30 million women and children?No Wolf.If you read upthread I am talking about the immediate tactical use of weaponry on certain targets.If the Mullah/12vers do not get the message, we just wratchet it up until they do.A...Post Script:I would rather their population suck radiation than ours.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Their nuclear facilities, which are located near population centers...?... and missile bases, so they can't hit back?... and their air bases and naval assets?Are you really sure this is a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Someone is going to start the next big war and he doesn't post on or read OL. Henry Kissinger wasn't master of the world until Nixon gave him two hats in 1969. Just some prof. out of somewhere. Not being masters of the world, wouldn't our energies best be spent not being crushed by the ones who will actually get to push the red buttons? --Brantthinking of moving to--Puerto Rico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I'll eat popcorn from the sidelines up here in Canada! Sadly the US REALLY dropped the ball in 2009 when Iran had a rather large uprising. ALL the rebels were looking for from the US was "Yes we give you our MORAL support and if need be, anything else!" Silence...they got fucking silence. The end of the whole regime MOSTLy if not all at the hands of their own just LOOKing for some support and they got nothing...and then they got suppressed. Way to go Obamullah.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Mashad in the Northeast corner is an effective place to start.Again rather their population centers than ours.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The problem on this thread is posters knowing more than they know with Wolf ineffectively pointing that out. But that's the general historical state of the world, with leaders knowing more than they know going to war with the stupidity and ignorance refined out and learned out as the corpses pile up even after--or especially after--Grant takes command and his pal Sherman gets loose in Georgia.--BrantKyrel is watching us . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Need more popcornnn....JihadStealth jihadLook..now we have lotto jihad...wonder where the winnings are going!http://www.debbieschlussel.com/72295/video-palestinian-muslim-grocery-store-owner-wins-lottery-4-times-in-1-day-muslim-store-owners-are-9-of-top-10-lottery-winners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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