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[moralist]

A line has been crossed twice now in regards to government controlled "healthcare"... that of the Supreme Court taking over a function of Congress.

This is part of a larger trend:

Both the Executive and Judicial branches of government are acting in the place of Congress.... as the sanctity of the Constiutional checks-and-balances three party system of government is being violated.

If you think this is of no consequence... think again.

There's a storm coming.

After 911, a tree was planted at Ground Zero to replace the tree that protected Saint Paul's Chapel where George Washington and all the members of congress prayed on his Inaguration Day from being destroyed by the blast from the falling Twin Towers.

The replacement tree was named the Tree of Hope.

No matter what they did trying to keep it alive...

...it died.

Greg

[Peter]

Greg wrote about the sanctity of the Constitutional checks-and-balances of the three party system being violated. Ted Cruz and other patriots in our duly elected government are well aware of the crisis.

But, Greg, you are missing the boat. The Bible is one tract amongst hundreds if not thousands of fantasies with no proof. I understand that the religious right needs to be galvanized to win the next election but it must be done in a non-denominational way. Cultural and political trends can be countered but not if the philosophy is religious in nature. If you go at a political problem from a religious perspective the Methodists will offend the Episcopalians. The Christians will irk the Jewish. The Jewish will tick off the secularist. Inclusion, not division, is required so, there must be a separation of church and state - and fantasy and science. Philosophy is needed. Keep religion for your personal life. Speak the language of philosophy here and you will have a more stimulating time of it.

[Selene]

Um...it is the three distinct Constitutionally separate branches of government guys.

And it is about the Separation of Powers doctrine that has been publicly executed.

A...

[moralist]

But, Greg, you are missing the boat. The Bible is one tract amongst hundreds if not thousands of fantasies with no proof.

Peter, I said nothing about the Bible in regards to this issue.

I was referring to the Executive and Judicial branches of government both acting on behalf of the Congressional branch. If there is something wrong with a law that Congress passed, they should be the ones to fix it... not for the Supreme court to do it in their ruling, or for the President to do it by executive order.

I understand that the religious right needs to be galvanized to win the next election but it must be done in a non-denominational way.

There are no longer enough Americans in America who deserve a Constitutional government, only an unconstitutional one. So that's what they get because that's what they deserve.

Greg

[BaalChatzaf]

There are no good governments and there never were any. There are only bad governments and worse governments.

[moralist]

There are no good governments and there never were any. There are only bad governments and worse governments.

Government can never be any better than the political majority who created it in their own image.

Greg

[moralist]

Um...it is the three distinct Constitutionally separate branches of government guys..

...not any more!

[Brant Gaede]

But, Greg, you are missing the boat. The Bible is one tract amongst hundreds if not thousands of fantasies with no proof.

Peter, I said nothing about the Bible in regards to this issue.

I was referring to the Executive and Judicial branches of government both acting on behalf of the Congressional branch. If there is something wrong with a law that Congress passed, they should be the ones to fix it... not for the Supreme court to do it in their ruling, or for the President to do it by executive order.

I understand that the religious right needs to be galvanized to win the next election but it must be done in a non-denominational way.

There are no longer enough Americans in America who deserve a Constitutional government, only an unconstitutional one. So that's what they get because that's what they deserve.

Greg

This goes back a long, long way--iconically to the late 1930s when the Supreme Court became a Roosevelt Administration's lapdog after FDR's bullying attempt to pack the Supreme Court when it declared one of the New Deal's pet babies unconstitutional.

--Brant

[moralist]

But, Greg, you are missing the boat. The Bible is one tract amongst hundreds if not thousands of fantasies with no proof.

Peter, I said nothing about the Bible in regards to this issue.

I was referring to the Executive and Judicial branches of government both acting on behalf of the Congressional branch. If there is something wrong with a law that Congress passed, they should be the ones to fix it... not for the Supreme court to do it in their ruling, or for the President to do it by executive order.

I understand that the religious right needs to be galvanized to win the next election but it must be done in a non-denominational way.

There are no longer enough Americans in America who deserve a Constitutional government, only an unconstitutional one. So that's what they get because that's what they deserve.

Greg

This goes back a long, long way--iconically to the late 1930s when the Supreme Court became a Roosevelt Administration's lapdog after FDR's bullying attempt to pack the Supreme Court when it declared one of the New Deal's pet babies unconstitutional.

--Brant

My point is that today there aren't enough Americans who deserve a decent government... and that's why it isn't.

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

Maybe there never were, for it's been downhill since George Washington took office. The country-going-down speed is ramping up.

--Brant

[moralist]

Maybe there never were, for it's been downhill since George Washington took office. The country-going-down speed is ramping up.

--Brant

The silver lining on the cloud is that millions of Americans have enjoyed freedom for hundreds of years regardless of the general degeneration of America.

After all, isn't this the essence of what freedom is, Brant?

The enjoyment of a happy, independent, autonomous, self motivated, self reliant, creative, productive, meaningful life... regardless of what others do?

...and even regardless of what the government does!

That freedom exists in america right here and right now.... and whoever doesn't have it, doesn't deserve it.

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

You are saying save the world for yourself, not others, that'd be moral welfare. Let others be others. Be an example--the right example--even shine a light on yourself if you want, but not required; that could be dangerous, depending. Above all, don't go to Washington; you'll be used and abused or be the user and abuser. This family of man consists of 6 - 7 billion people. Each doing his/her own thing(s). One can address this family--it's only one--but very few actual people and those usually ineffectively. Now, there are two sub-categories of the family of man: the initiators of force and the non-initiators. Each informs the other what needs to be done about the other. Islam today as a dynamic force embraces the initiation of force, but not necessarily any Muslim. So those against the initiation of force are entitled, whatever their religion, to smash those initiators. If they are categorized as fascists, which they are, they can be smashed by a war on fascism, not through an unwinable war against a religion with well over a billion adherents with multiple sects. To truly have a world of your own you need to smash fascism as it directly impacts you locally if you can't avoid it. Think of your American life as a circle of freedom competence that excludes fascism. How big the circle depends on you and your abilities and interests. That is the only imperative needed to be an American--to know what one is doing and why for, for any person on earth it's always conflict and fighting of one sort or another for that is the nature of living, but your example is educational for knowing this most important thing. That's all you're really doing here--that's moral entertainment, even the joy of battle. You have been enjoying yourself here and elsewhere, no?

--Brant

fight fascism, make love, make money, and don't forget "Miller Time"!