The Arab Spring was not hijacked

[Richard Wiig]

‘Islam Is Islam, And That’s It’

The Arab Spring was not hijacked

BY ANDREW C. McCARTHY

The tumult indelibly dubbed “the Arab Spring” in the West, by the credulous and the calculating alike, is easier to understand once you grasp two basics. First, the most important fact in the Arab world — as well as in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other neighboring non-Arab territories — is Islam. It is not poverty, illiteracy, or the lack of modern democratic institutions. These, like anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and an insular propensity to buy into conspiracy theories featuring infidel villains, are effects of Islam’s regional hegemony and supremacist tendency, not causes of it. One need not be led to that which pervades the air one breathes.

The second fact is that Islam constitutes a distinct civilization. It is not merely an exotic splash on the gorgeous global mosaic with a few embarrassing cultural eccentricities; it is an entirely different way of looking at the world. We struggle with this truth, which defies our end-of-history smugness. Enthralled by diversity for its own sake, we have lost the capacity to comprehend a civilization whose idea of diversity is coercing diverse peoples into obedience to its evolution-resistant norms...

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/article/?q=MTFhZjcyZmQ1Mjc0NGRmODY2ZGMyMWNmZjE2N2IyNjQ

[BaalChatzaf]

‘Islam Is Islam, And That’s It’

The Arab Spring was not hijacked

BY ANDREW C. McCARTHY

The tumult indelibly dubbed “the Arab Spring” in the West, by the credulous and the calculating alike, is easier to understand once you grasp two basics. First, the most important fact in the Arab world — as well as in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other neighboring non-Arab territories — is Islam. It is not poverty, illiteracy, or the lack of modern democratic institutions. These, like anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and an insular propensity to buy into conspiracy theories featuring infidel villains, are effects of Islam’s regional hegemony and supremacist tendency, not causes of it. One need not be led to that which pervades the air one breathes.

The second fact is that Islam constitutes a distinct civilization. It is not merely an exotic splash on the gorgeous global mosaic with a few embarrassing cultural eccentricities; it is an entirely different way of looking at the world. We struggle with this truth, which defies our end-of-history smugness. Enthralled by diversity for its own sake, we have lost the capacity to comprehend a civilization whose idea of diversity is coercing diverse peoples into obedience to its evolution-resistant norms...

http://www.nationalr...MWNmZjE2N2IyNjQ

If what his says is true, then al Islam is a menace to the rest of the world.

I have a very direct solution to that problem.....

Think of the Lord High Executioner's Song from -The Mikado-.

If some day it should happen that a victim must be found

I have a little list, I have a little list

Of society offenders who are best off underground

And never will be missed, no never will be missed.....

Ba'al Chatzaf

[9thdoctor]

I have a very direct solution to that problem.....

Think of the Lord High Executioner's Song from -The Mikado-.

If some day it should happen that a victim must be found

I have a little list, I have a little list

Of society offenders who are best off underground

And never will be missed, no never will be missed.....

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

More us against them tribalism.

People trying to solve a problem by being the same problem.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here's a present for Richard (Infidel) if he is not already familiar with it.

Don't Let It Go blog of Amy Peikoff

You can access recordings there of her Blog Talk Radio shows (called "Don't Let it Go... Unheard"). Hour-and-a-half plus shows. Maybe two hours.

I tried listing to the latest one (co-starring Bosch Fawstin--I don't know if he is in the others) just to see what it was like. They were discussing how honor killings are provided for in the Qu'ran.

So I stopped.

(I kinda get Bosch, though, because giving up what he had to give up to keep his spirit free would piss off anybody. But the whole discourse is not borne out by my own personal experience. So I go with my own eyes, not those of others. I do understand, though, that his eyes and my eyes have seen very different things.)

Anyway, sounds like Richard's kind of show.

Michael

[Brant Gaede]

Here's a present for Richard (Infidel) if he is not already familiar with it.

Don't Let It Go blog of Amy Peikoff

You can access recordings there of her Blog Talk Radio shows (called "Don't Let it Go... Unheard"). Hour-and-a-half plus shows. Maybe two hours.

I tried listing to the latest one (co-starring Bosch Fawstin--I don't know if he is in the others) just to see what it was like. They were discussing how honor killings are provided for in the Qu'ran.

So I stopped.

(I kinda get Bosch, though, because giving up what he had to give up to keep his spirit free would piss off anybody. But the whole discourse is not borne out by my own personal experience. So I go with my own eyes, not those of others. I do understand, though, that his eyes and my eyes have seen very different things.)

Anyway, sounds like Richard's kind of show.

Michael

I think they are married.

--Brant

[Richard Wiig]

Couldn't be more off the mark. Does white or black skin make one savage?

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Couldn't be more off the mark. Does white or black skin make one savage?

Caramba!

Since when do American Indians have black skin?

Talk about off the friggen' mark.

Michael

[Selene]

Maybe he is color blind?

[Brant Gaede]

This is a digression from the conversation, but since the thread is about the "Arab Spring" I'd like to point out that Egypt is collapsing politically and economically and mass starvation is just starting. They're running out of money and food. A great deal if not most of their food is imported, especially from the the U.S. as wheat. Bakeries need fossil fuels to fire their ovens, so even if wheat is available cooking the bread up is being delimited by that. The situation is bad going to worse going to horrendous. Greece is a piker for disaster compared to this. A two-dollar a day income half going for food with the price of food going up . . .

--Brant

[BaalChatzaf]

Couldn't be more off the mark. Does white or black skin make one savage?

Caramba!

Since when do American Indians have black skin?

Talk about off the friggen' mark.

Michael

That very issue was raised in the opening scenes of -Blazing Saddles-. Sherrif Bart tells the Gene Wilder characters how his parents encountered Indians on their way west.

Schwartzers! .................. Losem geh!

See:

and have a laugh!

Ba'al Chatzaf

[9thdoctor]

Couldn't be more off the mark. Does white or black skin make one savage?

Do you know what a metaphor is?

[Selene]

This is a digression from the conversation, but since the thread is about the "Arab Spring" I'd like to point out that Egypt is collapsing politically and economically and mass starvation is just starting. They're running out of money and food. A great deal if not most of their food is imported, especially from the the U.S. as wheat. Bakeries need fossil fuels to fire their ovens, so even if wheat is available cooking the bread up is being delimited by that. The situation is bad going to worse going to horrendous. Greece is a piker for disaster compared to this. A two-dollar a day income half going for food with the price of food going up . . .

--Brant

Brant:

Correct. The skyrocketing cost of food was the catalyst for the original uprising in several of the countries, but specifically of Egypt. It has been carefully excluded from both the "main stream" narrative and the O'biwan administration narrative.

Adam

[Richard Wiig]

That they're running out of food is a consequence, not a cause.

[william.scherk]

Egypt's Mubarak gets life in prison for protesters' deaths

[william.scherk]

Edited June 2, 2012 by william.scherk