SoAMadDeathWish Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Completely empty space means there is no space. Something in space defines a space but its existence is purely epistemological. You can't move space around or modify it in any way. An expanding universe is not expanding into space it is creating space which it only a measurement of distance and what's in it. Time is just a measurement of motion--of something. No matter what you do with space, time and space-time those are all and only in your head.--Brantthe layman strikes, can't swim, blub, blub, blubThe same mathematical object which describes matter and radiation (a tensor field) is also used to describe the shape of spacetime. There is no reason to believe that one is any more or less real than the other. It is not possible to eliminate the metric tensor (the tensor that describes spacetime) from the field equations of General Relativity. You need both in order to make sense of gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 General Relativity treats the space-time manifold as substantial. That is why space-time can be bent or stretched.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Completely empty space means there is no space. Something in space defines a space but its existence is purely epistemological. You can't move space around or modify it in any way. An expanding universe is not expanding into space it is creating space which it only a measurement of distance and what's in it. Time is just a measurement of motion--of something. No matter what you do with space, time and space-time those are all and only in your head.--Brantthe layman strikes, can't swim, blub, blub, blubThe same mathematical object which describes matter and radiation (a tensor field) is also used to describe the shape of spacetime. There is no reason to believe that one is any more or less real than the other. It is not possible to eliminate the metric tensor (the tensor that describes spacetime) from the field equations of General Relativity. You need both in order to make sense of gravity.I have no opinion on any Relativity theory except what if they aren't true?--Brantbending things that don't exist?today's gravity sense tomorrow's no sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoAMadDeathWish Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Completely empty space means there is no space. Something in space defines a space but its existence is purely epistemological. You can't move space around or modify it in any way. An expanding universe is not expanding into space it is creating space which it only a measurement of distance and what's in it. Time is just a measurement of motion--of something. No matter what you do with space, time and space-time those are all and only in your head.--Brantthe layman strikes, can't swim, blub, blub, blubThe same mathematical object which describes matter and radiation (a tensor field) is also used to describe the shape of spacetime. There is no reason to believe that one is any more or less real than the other. It is not possible to eliminate the metric tensor (the tensor that describes spacetime) from the field equations of General Relativity. You need both in order to make sense of gravity.I have no opinion on any Relativity theory except what if they aren't true?--Brantbending things that don't exist?There's actually a pretty neat argument for why spacetime must be curved.Suppose that there are two observers that start falling toward the Earth in parallel lines. They will tend to approach each other as they both fall towards the center. Now, since observers in free-fall are inertial, then they must be traveling along straight lines locally. But since they must meet at the center, then this means that two parallel and straight lines will eventually intersect. Therefore, spacetime cannot be Euclidean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have no opinion on any Relativity theory except what if they aren't true?--Brantbending things that don't exist?today's gravity sense tomorrow's no senseIn the mean time your GPS will tell you where you are to within ten meters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 So if I were nine meters from where I am , I'd be closer or it would ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have no opinion on any Relativity theory except what if they aren't true?--Brantbending things that don't exist?today's gravity sense tomorrow's no senseIn the mean time your GPS will tell you where you are to within ten meters.You deleted my question mark from the quotation.GPS is theory confirmation. So far. Maybe it will come to confirm a different, better, theory.Planetary orbits confirm Newton, or once did.--Brantbut at least he was good to within "ten meters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoAMadDeathWish Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have no opinion on any Relativity theory except what if they aren't true?--Brantbending things that don't exist?today's gravity sense tomorrow's no senseIn the mean time your GPS will tell you where you are to within ten meters.You deleted my question mark from the quotation.GPS is theory confirmation. So far. Maybe it will come to confirm a different, better, theory.Planetary orbits confirm Newton, or once did.--Brantbut at least he was good to within "ten meters."--BrantMaybe. But the theory has to actually exist before it can be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Planetary orbits confirm Newton, or once did.-Newton got the precession of the precession of the perihelion of Mercury wrong from the git-goBa'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJOBnoqk_0Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 http://resonance.is/nexus-france-magazine-features-nassim-harameins-unified-physics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Sounds kinda New Age.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Possibly.I'm dying to hear the Bobster's take, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hyperbole? Self-aggrandizement? Yes.But we are all Objectivish people here, so that needn't be a concern. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Everything is connected? Sure. What else is new? Same for everything spins. This is still no unified field theory--is that what they call it?--as such.--Brantlet's go to the references! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 let's go to the references!Way above my pay grade:http://hiup.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1367405491-Haramein342013PRRI3363.pdfI'm gonna need a heft dose of DMT to grok this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 let's go to the references!Way above my pay grade:http://hiup.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1367405491-Haramein342013PRRI3363.pdfI'm gonna need a heft dose of DMT to grok this..What is DMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hyperbole? Self-aggrandizement? Yes.Be sure to let us know when a working quantum gravity theory is corroborated. It would be good news if someone found the graviton. No one has done it yet.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What is DMT.Enlighten yourself Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqzHzAx4roIntuition in a grain of easily available plants.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I just noticed the Haramein paper makes reference to the black hole Cygnus X-1.I gotsta reprezent my boys: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What is DMT.Enlighten yourself Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqzHzAx4roIntuition in a grain of easily available plants....What is this???? The bullshit hour? I will not spend an hour on pure dreck. There is no spirit so there is certainly no spirit molecule. All there is is matter and energy in time and space. The Universe is physical right down to the basement level.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoAMadDeathWish Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What is DMT.Enlighten yourself Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqzHzAx4roIntuition in a grain of easily available plants....What is this???? The bullshit hour? I will not spend an hour of pure dreck. There is no spirit so there is certainly no spirit molecule. All there is is matter and energy in time and space. The Universe is physical right down to the basement level.Ba'al Chatzaf It's just a hallucinogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What is DMT.Enlighten yourself Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqzHzAx4roIntuition in a grain of easily available plants....What is this???? The bullshit hour? I will not spend an hour on pure dreck. There is no spirit so there is certainly no spirit molecule. All there is is matter and energy in time and space. The Universe is physical right down to the basement level.Ba'al Chatzaf Such hostility! Why is that Bob?The documentary is replete with mature, intelligent professionals, 90% of whom have Doctorates in their respective fields. Hardly dreck. They may or may not be correct, but they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Why the tantrum Bob? Why not watch and learn? Do you feel threatened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serapis Bey Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 What is DMT.Enlighten yourself Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqzHzAx4roIntuition in a grain of easily available plants....What is this???? The bullshit hour? I will not spend an hour of pure dreck. There is no spirit so there is certainly no spirit molecule. All there is is matter and energy in time and space. The Universe is physical right down to the basement level.Ba'al Chatzaf It's just a hallucinogen.Technically, no.It is in a class of its own.Take it from someone who has sampled the cornucopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoAMadDeathWish Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Technically, no.It is in a class of its own.Take it from someone who has sampled the cornucopiaIt's just a hallucinogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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