Brady's Balls And Bill Belichick's Sergeant Schultz Persona


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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/bill-belichick-deflate-tom-brady-cheat-super-bowl-press-conference

This is a question of ethics.

This is the kind of issue that Objectivism should have a position on and be out front because that would gain a front and center chair in a national conversation that more than half of the population will participate in.

Let's see if the Orthodox Objectivist even are aware that this is an ethical issue that creates a teachable moment with children and regular folks.


Not directly, of course, but by saying he had nothing to do with the deflation of the balls, Belichick insinuates that his quarterback did, especially by delivering this damning quote:

“Tom’s personal preference on his footballs are something he can talk about in much better detail than I can possibly provide.”

Et tu, Brutu-chick?

Brady was supposed to talk to the media on Friday, but that press conference/confrontation has been moved to 4 p.m. ET on Thursday. The quarterback certainly got no cover from his coach prior to his chat with the press. When asked a question about whether Brady handles the footballs before the game, Belichick demurred, saying that was a question that could be answered by the league. Time and again he was given the opportunity to defend his quarterback. He never did.

If true, and you are the commissioner, who earns 42 million dollars a year...what would your ruling be?


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Brady: out.

I'm relying on John Madden's analysis. Plus I promised my sister (lives near Seattle) I'd root for the Seahawk's. Not that Brady's presence or not will change the outcome...

By the way: ethics? This is the age where the best liars are admired for their skilled expertise in gaming the 'system'. Honesty is for suckers.

[i'm with T. Sowell]

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Brady: out.

I'm relying on John Madden's analysis. Plus I promised my sister (lives near Seattle) I'd root for the Seahawk's. Not that Brady's presence or not will change the outcome...

By the way: ethics? This is the age where the best liars are admired for their skilled expertise in gaming the 'system'. Honesty is for suckers.

[i'm with T. Sowell]

Who does he play for? :rolleyes::huh:

Just kidding...

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This is absolutely fascinating - the Brady press conference just ended ... imagine the press being one tenth as inquisitive of President O'bama.

The press conference is in the link from CBS Connecticut:

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2015/01/22/brady-this-isnt-isis/

I guess Brady lives in Conn.

The headline is priceless:

"This isn't ISIS!" THE quote of the day.

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The Seahawks are going to be absolutely crushed by The Patriots for every player on that team will want to wash off that Deflategate crap.

If the NFL hasn't got the right procedure for insuring proper ball inflation in its games, Deflategate is as much on them folks as anyone else.

--Brant

I'm staking my--hahahaha--reputation on this: Patriots by 20 (and I'm not responsible for any bets nor will I be betting)

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The Seahawks are going to be absolutely crushed by The Patriots for every player on that team will want to wash off that Deflategate crap.

If the NFL hasn't got the right procedure for insuring proper ball inflation in its games, Deflategate is as much on them folks as anyone else.

--Brant

I'm staking my--hahahaha--reputation on this: Patriots by 20 (and I'm not responsible for any bets nor will I be betting)

What happens if Brady had the eleven (11) of the twelve (12) balls that the referees stamped and approved some two (2) hours before the game and were in the hands of New England for the entire time.

New England's "problem" came as the refs checked the twenty four balls at half time, the other twelve (12) were in the hands of the Indianapolis Colts hands.

All twelve (12) of the Colts balls were at the same prescribed inflation and eleven (11) of the twelve (12) New England balls were two (2) pounds less.

One might ask, well, see, they were defective, or, one might, knowing Belichick's theory of taking every advantage in a contest, kept one (1) properly inflated, in case someone, like a ref, asked for a ball to test.

Ethics be damned? Win at all costs?

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Ethics! We don't have no ethics! We ain't got to show you no stinkin' ethics!

--Brant

mo money, mo money, mo money (<$5,000,000 for 30 seconds)

the problem seems to be--aside from them thar ethics--that each team plays with its own balls

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Ethics! We don't have no ethics! We ain't got to show you no stinkin' ethics!

--Brant

mo money, mo money, mo money (<$5,000,000 for 30 seconds)

the problem seems to be--aside from them thar ethics--that each team plays with its own balls

Yeah and one team has manly inflated balls and those New England Barney Frank Patriots have deflated balls.

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Ethics! We don't have no ethics! We ain't got to show you no stinkin' ethics!

--Brant

mo money, mo money, mo money (<$5,000,000 for 30 seconds)

the problem seems to be--aside from them thar ethics--that each team plays with its own balls

Yeah and one team has manly inflated balls and those New England Barney Frank Patriots have deflated balls.

For the record: I, Brant Gaede ("The Magnificent") will be rooting for the Seattle Seahawks Feb 1--in spite of their own cheating coach (at USC).

--Brant (the wimp)

can't risk Adam's anger--gotta be able to post on OL Feb. 2

(I really will root for Seattle [truth!]--I don't need no ego food [lie!] from that 20 point spread--it's just a hedge [lie!]--mo ego, mo ego, mo ego!)

and the hell with Barney Frank!

everything I say is a lie (lie!)

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Many unanswered questions come quickly to mind here. Hopefully insipid, serpentine, torturous, monkey-brain Mankind will eventually address most of them.

1) Why weren't the balls inflated to the right pressure in the first place? If 11-pounds-per-square-inch is really the best, why use a bloated, slippery, rugby-like, 13-pound ball to begin with?

2) Why don't both teams use the same balls, like in all other sports?

3) What named persons, of what official positions, have custody of the footballs between the inspection 2.25 hours before kick-off and game-time?

4) Why aren't Bill Belichick and the Patriots conducting their own investigation of this?

5) Can we punish New England by making their balls 2 pounds overinflated in the Superbowl?

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Many unanswered questions come quickly to mind here. Hopefully insipid, serpentine, torturous, monkey-brain Mankind will eventually address most of them.

1) Why weren't the balls inflated to the right pressure in the first place? If 11-pounds-per-square-inch is really the best, why use a bloated, slippery, rugby-like, 13-pound ball to begin with?

2) Why don't both teams use the same balls, like in all other sports?

3) What named persons, of what official positions, have custody of the footballs between the inspection 2.25 hours before kick-off and game-time?

4) Why aren't Bill Belichick and the Patriots conducting their own investigation of this?

5) Can we punish New England by making their balls 2 pounds overinflated in the Superbowl?

1. answer - all the balls were certified and stamped by the official about two (2) hours prior to kickoff. The New England Patriots receive 24 balls of which Brady selects 12 of the stamped and certifiedy balls.

2. because the rules of football is different. In baseball, a pitcher can ask for another ball. Ump can replace a ball.

3. no named person, nor official is in possession of those certified balls. Generally, my understanding is that they are given to the equipment manager of each team.

4. There club persona is to do whatever it takes to win. Any edge Bellichick can get, he will take.

5. the Commissioner of Football, who makes 42 million per year, and, virtually anything which does not violate the general public law.

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#5, Adam, is pure obscenity.

And that each team plays with its own balls--that's on the NFL generally, not on the Patriots. If the Patriots deflated that's on them too boot. And who is to say the balls were properly inflated in the first place?

Instead of paying that much money to the commish--what's her name?--why not some R and D for safer football helmets or a little more money to NFL brain-damaged NFL veterans?

Maybe if the manufacturers of football helmets would study the structure of a woodpecker's skull they could find a way to a better design. I doubt if there's an answer there in that but what are they doing about a game that damages too many brains?

For me Deflategate is a silly, little, let's-have-our-morality-for-dessert joke. Even Mike Ditka wouldn't want any children of his [playing football, now knowing what everybody knows or easily could know today, because of brain if not body damage also.

--Brant

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Maybe if the manufacturers of football helmets would study the structure of a woodpecker's skull they could find a way to a better design. I doubt if there's an answer there in that but what are they doing about a game that damages too many brains?

For me Deflategate is a silly, little, let's-have-our-morality-for-dessert joke. Even Mike Ditka wouldn't want any children of his [playing football, now knowing what everybody knows or easily could know today, because of brain if not body damage also.

--Brant

Sadly I agree with you and Ditka. I would caution my son not to play a game that I love.

Interesting idea about the Woodpeckers. I would also look into the Mountain goats/rams who smash into each other with their heads.

We've all seen the Disney short on this...

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the commish's name is Roger Goodell

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They will never let loose of Nixon...lol

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I wonder how they would react if that was William Jefferson Clinton saying "I am not a rapist!" as he bent over Juanita Broderick's beaten body...

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This is definitely one of my favorites...because of the extremely good caricature...

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Funny stuff on this thread. This time I was prepared...no coffee drinking @ the desktop.

-J

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