Longfellow couldn't have said it better


jts

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And your rational argument supported by that vid even in humor, does not resonate with me at all...

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His acting was pretty good. It reminded me of a 1950's Western or Eastwood's "Dirty Harry."

I loved that TV Guide story that described a busload of kids going to a wrestling match. They loved it enthusiastically, and cheered the good guys and the villains. However, when the reporter accompanied a bus load of retarded kids he was astounded that they were outraged. "He did not hit him! That's phony! He cheated! That's not real!" They saw through the sham fighting and did not get it.

I looked for anything from my archives and this is all I could find.

Bill Dwyer wrote on Atlantis:

"force" in a libertarian/Objectivist context refers to the negation of a person's will or choice; it means compulsion. In this sense, two people engaged in the sport of boxing or wrestling are not using "force" against either; since their participation is voluntary . . . The ~initiation~ of force, for an Objectivist or a libertarian, is gaining a value from its owner without his or her consent, which is why fraud is a form of force. Thus, the initiation of force presupposes the concept of property rights, which is a point that Kelley has made. For example, if I physically remove you from a particular place against your will, I have used "force" against you. But I have not ~initiated~ force against you if the place is my property and you are occupying it against my will. Thus, in order to determine whether or not an act of force qualifies as the ~initiation~ of force, one needs to have a prior understanding of the property relations obtaining between the two parties involved in its exercise.

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I loved that TV Guide story that described a busload of kids going to a wrestling match. They loved it enthusiastically, and cheered the good guys and the villains. However, when the reporter accompanied a bus load of retarded kids he was astounded that they were outraged. "He did not hit him! That's phony! He cheated! That's not real!" They saw through the sham fighting and did not get it.

And I died. :laugh:

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