It is ISIS' turn

[BaalChatzaf]

I heard on CNN the following blurb: Homeland Security has not picked up any chatter for a forthcoming ISIS attack on the U.S.

A chill ran through me. That means an attack is coming shortly. ISIS has imposed "radio silence" on their Big Attack against the continental United States. If Homeland Security thinks silence is a good sign, then we are really in bad trouble. Expect an attack or an attempted attack on any city or area where there are a lot of Jewish people.

Or look for an attack in the subway or an attempt to blow up an underwater tunnel in New York City. Or a possible attempt to poison the water supply of New York City. A gallon of botulin toxin will do just fine. Drop it from a plane are just sneak up to a reservoir (say Croton) and pour it in.

I also suspect that various agencies are holding back data or not co-operating to build up their leverage and clout. You know, just like before 9-11.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[moralist]

Islam is STRONGER than secular leftism.

America has become a secular leftist nation similar to Europe and so will experience the same fate as Europe.

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

But the next President might release the Kraken.

--Brant

America still has a lot of Kraken (here's Zeus)

https://youtu.be/gb2zIR2rvRQ

[Wolf DeVoon]

various agencies are holding back data or not co-operating

Absolutely.

...the fact that most of the attackers were living in Brussels destroys the narrative of the need to attack Syria and ISIS. That fact needs to be hammered home, Hollande shut the borders because he wanted to be seen doing something and he's yammering on about wiping out ISIS (attacking Syria) because he wants to be seen doing something. What he absolutely does not want to do is to take a stand against Muslims in his own country, that loses votes, messes with various vested interests in politics and business, and has all kinds of awkward repercussions. [comment in Zero Hedge story: Passport Found Next To Suicide Bomber Was "Definitely A Forgery" ]

[January 2015] it was confirmed by Belgian police that the weapons used in the Paris [Charlie Hebdo] attacks had been purchased in Brussels and Charleroi by Coulibaly, who had travelled to the country expressly to buy the Kalashnikovs, Skorpion, Tokarev and rocket launcher. In 2010, police in Belgium stated: "Counter to what you may have heard, it's not easy to get hold of a Kalashnikov." To prove them wrong, a reporter for Belgian newspaper La Derniere Heure managed to do so in less than six hours. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11351855/How-did-the-Paris-terrorists-get-hold-of-their-weapons.html

[moralist]

Brant writes:

But the next President might release the Kraken.

...not if there aren't enough Americans still living in America to elect one who will.

Greg

[moralist]

Wolf quotes:

What he absolutely does not want to do is to take a stand against Muslims in his own country...

Bingo.

The weak feminized secular left's own religious doctrine of political correctness renders it impotent to stopping Islamic fascists on their own soil so as not to appear islamophobic.

This is how the secular left commits suicide.

Greg

[Selene]

A road map for where to start deportation:

[Brant Gaede]

Brant writes:

But the next President might release the Kraken.

...not if there aren't enough Americans still living in America to elect one who will.

Greg

Oh, but there are. That'd be happenstance, not because of the real Americans whose absence you lament.

Wilson swore to keep us out of the war in Europe.

Roosevelt did not run on a pro-war strategy in 1940. Quite the contrary.

Both released the American Kraken.

--Brant

crackin' my Kraken

[Brant Gaede]

Adam: maybe close the border with Canada first?

--Brant

I say deport them all to California

when California detaches from the mainland and floats off to the cold northwest we'll be rid of them

in the meantime they'll be contained

goodbye, Greg

[Selene]

Adam: maybe close the border with Canada first?

--Brant

I say deport them all to California

when California detaches from the mainland and floats off to the cold northwest we'll be rid of them

in the meantime they'll be contained

goodbye, Greg

With Trudeau in power, I would love to know how they do immigration in Canada.

Can you imagine the uproar if an ISIS team came across that open Canadian border and hit Seattle?

Also, and this is serious, how does Canada vet immigrants?

That I would like to know.

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[william.scherk]

Adam: maybe close the border with Canada first?

With Trudeau in power, I would love to know how they do immigration in Canada.

Good question, especially in querying the present 'doing immigration' and any changes -- cosmetic or otherwise -- coming down the pike. Were you primarily interested in the policy changes, or were you most interested in how Canada' system works over the past decades?

Generally, Canada's system is similar to but simpler than the American one.

Still speaking generally, the differences between the USA and Canada are of four classes: visas, family reunification, 'economic'/investor, and selection procedures. To grossly simplify, Canada weighs each application according to a points system and according to labour market needs, while favouring family unification or re-unification. We also have a relatively recent Temporary Foreign Worker system driven by industry. The process of becoming a permanent resident and then citizen is relatively streamlined over the US, and takes a shorter period of time.

If you had some particular questions, or if you would like me to bang out a few paragraphs, I'd be happy to. Here's a semi-creepy video from Canadian immigration's Youtube channel:

Can you imagine the uproar if an ISIS team came across that open Canadian border and hit Seattle?

Yeah. Of course, this presumes that the USA border is 'open' from your side. I think you will find that not to be quite true. When was the last time you attempted to cross the USA/Canada land border from either side, or traveled to Canada and back by air?

Maybe you suspect that the USA/Canada border is, as the cliche goes, undefended. The last several times I have crossed south, I saw much evidence of the care taken to vet each person hoping to go south. The neatest part of the crossing by vehicle (I often cross on bicycle) is the 'holding area' where vehicles dwell before speaking to an agent. I am sure the exact specs are classified, but it is obvious that an intense electronic scan is made while the vehicle stands.

Of course there is a close partnership between our respective border services agencies. If the USA is troubled by any weaknesses at the border, well they should be. I expect some kind of review or investigation by both sides. There have been plots uncovered and stymied. There will be more. I'd hope for continued vigilance, co-operation and security partnership. Vulnerabilities and faults need to be assessed on a continuing basis, in my opinion.

All in all, I think if I were an American I would have a level of fear/suspicion of the northern border. Even if the fear was perhaps over-stimulated, the end product of heightened security is obviously a value to both nations (intrusions on civil liberties due to 'security' is separate question for me).

Also, and this is serious, how does Canada vet immigrants?

That I would like to know.

Another good question. I found preliminary information by replacing 'screen' for 'vet' + security in search terms. Let's report back.

One thing to bear in mind is that we may not be advised of all details by the security agencies involved across borders -- via 'screening.' The word covers a whole lot of investigation-like checking of bona fides.

It will be interesting to share findings and then compare to the USA 'vetting' processes, and then scope out the vulnerabilities to terror plots and schemes that remain.

Going south, just two miles from me ... comin' atcha.

[Selene]

Adam: maybe close the border with Canada first?

With Trudeau in power, I would love to know how they do immigration in Canada.

Good question, especially in querying the present 'doing immigration' and any changes -- cosmetic or otherwise -- coming down the pike. Were you primarily interested in the policy changes, or were you most interested in how Canada' system works over the past decades?

Generally, Canada's system is similar to but simpler than the American one.

Still speaking generally, the differences between the USA and Canada are of four classes: visas, family reunification, 'economic'/investor, and selection procedures. To grossly simplify, Canada weighs each application according to a points system and according to labour market needs, while favouring family unification or re-unification. We also have a relatively recent Temporary Foreign Worker system driven by industry. The process of becoming a permanent resident and then citizen is relatively streamlined over the US, and takes a shorter period of time.

If you had some particular questions,

Thanks.

Questions:

Do you have an "anchor baby" concept in Canada?

Are there sanctuary cities in Canada?

If an illegal immigrant tries to get employment in Canada is there an e-verify system?

Can illegal immigrants obtain the equivalent of social services benefits in Canada?

Does Canada provide college educational support to an illegal immigrant?

That's it for now and thanks for all the info.

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[Brant Gaede]

For heaven's sake, William. Go east 50 miles and float across the border on your hang glider.

--Brant

then go get your bombs

[moralist]

Brant writes:

Oh, but there are.

If there were enough Americans living in America...

...a dickhead wouldn't have been elected President..

...twice.

Greg

[Selene]

Brant writes:

Oh, but there are.

If there were enough Americans living in America...

...a dickhead wouldn't have been elected President..

...twice.

Greg

Putin "allegedly" called him a child at the G20 meeting.

Even a child knows to fear a killer and either fight, or, run.

I would not insult children like that. However, this creature is the most delusional entity in my lifetime.

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[Wolf DeVoon]

Wilson swore to keep us out of the war in Europe

I made a little list of villains

Teddy Roosevelt, cowboy

Woodrow Wilson, academic

FDR, rich kid (opium)

Harry Truman, haberdasher

JFK, rich kid (whiskey)

LBJ, school teacher

none of the modern presidents did as much harm

[Brant Gaede]

Wilson swore to keep us out of the war in Europe

I made a little list of villains

Teddy Roosevelt, cowboy

Woodrow Wilson, academic

FDR, rich kid (opium)

Harry Truman, haberdasher

JFK, rich kid (whiskey)

LBJ, school teacher

none of the modern presidents did as much harm

These are all modern Presidents. Lincoln was the first modern President. Those that followed him didn't count too much until McKinley. Then Roosevelt, Wilson, Hoover, Roosevelt, etc.

I'd say: JFK, broads.

Wilson did the most harm if you objectify it all out--enabled into office by Roosevelt in 1912.

Here's a tease: what kind of President would that nut case Williams J Bryan have been if he had defeated McKinley in 1896? Wasn't he Secretary of State under Wilson and principled against entry into "The Great War"?

One thing that should be understood is while Presidents can do a lot of harm it's hard to do much good for a lot of that good would have to be undoing the harm done previously. For instance, The Affordable Care Act, previously known as Obamacare. (We are going back to the original and official name because the "Affordable" in the ACA has become a sick joke to everybody who has to use it.)

--Brant

and humanity in the aggregate marches on to better things and it's progress, it really is, except for those who think philosophy is the be all and end all of progress and they can't understand why the "right" philosophy seems to play little role so they look for "Horror Files" and get fucking depressed

the world first has to be accepted as it is before you can do anything about it--and you have to understand that world is too much to handle unless the handling is centered on your own life not what the world seems to need in your Olympian understanding so you'll be able to enjoy yourself while doing those good things that may actually have a positive effect on humankind--but if not, not; otherwise you'll be a Randian altruist expecting the showering of Rose petals as your life's reward (Peikoff [branden?]: if AS sells 50,000 copies this culture is cooked [1957])

[william.scherk]

Questions:

Do you have an "anchor baby" concept in Canada?

Yes, but. A baby born in Canada gains citizenship at birth, except if born to a Temporary Resident or a 'transiting person' ... and if born to a diplomatic family.

Are there sanctuary cities in Canada?

Yes. The most broad of the 'sanctuary' policies is education, primary and secondary. In simplistic detail, no child in Canada can be kept out of school, all children, 'illegal' or not, are accepted in the school system (which are provincially administered).

If an illegal immigrant tries to get employment in Canada is there an e-verify system?

No but yes. No one can legally work in Canada without a Social Insurance Number (or in some cases, with a work permit or student visa).

Can illegal immigrants obtain the equivalent of social services benefits in Canada?

No to government assistance directly measured -- no to medicare, no to tax rebates, no to welfare. Only a citizen or refugee or permanent resident is eligible. There are quasi-public institutions large and small that take subventions from various governments -- so there are free clinics for the destitute, legal aid, advocacy and faith groups. At one time or another the 'sanctuary' in Canada led to some situations where a failed 'immigrant' was sheltered in a church or temple ...

Does Canada provide college educational support to an illegal immigrant?

No.

That's it for now and thanks for all the info.

You bet. Just one question from my side of the border: does the USA allow illegals to receive state assistance for college or university?

[Selene]

That's it for now and thanks for all the info.

You bet. Just one question from my side of the border: does the USA allow illegals to receive state assistance for college or university?

Yes on a state by state basis.

[Selene]

Adam: maybe close the border with Canada first?

--Brant

I say deport them all to California

when California detaches from the mainland and floats off to the cold northwest we'll be rid of them

in the meantime they'll be contained

goodbye, Greg

With Trudeau in power, I would love to know how they do immigration in Canada.

Can you imagine the uproar if an ISIS team came across that open Canadian border and hit Seattle?

Also, and this is serious, how does Canada vet immigrants?

That I would like to know.

A...

Do not know if this is accurate.

However, it appears the Trudeau has changed immigration policy, according to a statement that Rush just reported.

Trudeau supposedly stated that Canada will no longer take single male refugees????

So, does that make Trudeau a racist, a bigot and a Xenophobe?

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[william.scherk]

Do not know if this is accurate.

However, it appears the Trudeau has changed immigration policy, according to a statement that Rush just reported.

Here's a link to a decent story (with informative links to Canadian views): Military bases preparing for arrival of early refugees. Do you have a link to the Limbaugh story, or was it only a broadcast comment?

It looks like a matter of 'priorities' in the selection procedures abroad (from within the pool of registered UNRA refugees), with lowest priority for single men. Bear in mind that the whole policy is not simple -- in that there are both private sponsorship and official sponsorships. As far as I can tell there is no ban on single men -- however, they are going to be restricted to private sponsors.

I must say the local community is gearing up. In my city (Surrey), religious groups have got into the act of sponsorship, and at least one synagogue has partnered with local Muslim associations to sponsor individual families. This is part of a greater pattern.

I don't know if I like it -- the posturing of 'good' Canadians, a certain trend to self-satisfaction, the artificial deadline (no way are we going to get all 25k into Canada by New Year, in my opinion, though I could be wrong -- I am right, according to this story just published.).

I think there is strong opposition to the Syrian refugee file. It isn't a 'love-in' from all quarters. All in all, though, it looks like the same kind of effort Canada made in earlier waves (from Kosovo, Vietnam, Uganda, etc). In my local area, I have made friends with a couple of former refugees -- from Iraq and from Syria. They are so thankful for the community support in their years-long transition. The very first refugee I met was a victim of torture.

It looks like some Canadians are fluffing up the whole issue a little bit -- over-emphazing just how wonderful we are. A couple of times I have been moved. When I first read of former Vietnamese refugees sponsoring Syria families, I found that moving. And I found a little bit moving the class of behaviour I will call 'welcoming' -- the actual people just reacting in a warm and empathetic way.

But then I went back to my cynical baseline.

Trudeau supposedly stated that Canada will no longer take single male refugees????

No. Not quite, as indicated above. See this CTV video that summarizes the details of the Syrian policy: http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=757075

So, does that make Trudeau a racist, a bigot and a Xenophobe?

From the CTV link:

Priority settlement?

Earlier on Tuesday, the Liberals came under fire for a practice that gives priority to the settlement of women and children.

Peter Showler, a former Immigration and Refugee Board chair, told CTV News last week that the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees performs a "triage of refugees who are eligible for resettlement."

UN officials who are on the ground tend to prioritize women, children and families.

"The classic example of that is first of all is children; secondly women," said Showler.

"So you're going to see a lot of single family, women-led families coming over."

On Monday, NDP Leader Tom Mulcair said that officials should not to exclude single men as potential refugees.

“We do not believe that it is appropriate to make a vast generalization about a category of refugees and exclude them ahead of any processing, just because of who they are,” Mulcair said at a press conference in Ottawa.

“While security concerns remain of vital importance, will a young man who lost both parents be excluded from Canada’s refugee program?” the NDP leader asked.

“Will a gay man who is escaping persecution be excluded?” he added. “Will a widower who is fleeing (ISIS) after seeing his family killed be excluded?”

Mulcair said that, “excluding them in advance is not the Canadian way,” and likened it to “the previous Conservative government’s plan to prioritize certain religious groups over others.”

-- I don't fully understand the interest from the American side of the border. Your country settles up to ten times the amount of refugees we do over the same period of time; there isn't much you can do about our refugee policies -- in the same way we cannot do much about yours.

(back to the salt mines, labouring on some overdue AGW replies ...)

Edited November 25, 2015 by william.scherk

[Selene]

Is salt a pollutant?

[william.scherk]

?

[Selene]

?

A joke Bill...

Your "drama queen" use of going back to work in the Salt Mine....

A....

[Selene]

Mulcair said that, “excluding them in advance is not the Canadian way,” and likened it to “the previous Conservative government’s plan to prioritize certain religious groups over others.”

-- I don't fully understand the interest from the American side of the border. Your country settles up to ten times the amount of refugees we do over the same period of time; there isn't much you can do about our refugee policies -- in the same way we cannot do much about yours.

(back to the salt mines, labouring on some overdue AGW replies ...)

Here is why William:

With U.S. security concerns heightened following the attacks in Paris claimed by Islamic State, the relatively porous state of America's northern border has attracted little attention as politicians, mostly Republicans, have attacked President Barack Obama's plans to allow in 10,000 Syrian refugees.

But in Montana, which shares a 500-mile (800-km) border with Canada, border agents and some residents say they are concerned about Ottawa's plan to bring in 25,000 Syrians by year-end, even though the government there insists its screening will be thorough and there are limited indications that militants may be seeking to use refugee status to cross borders.

The world's longest shared land border attracts a fraction of the U.S. attention and security resources taken up by the much shorter southern border with Mexico, which is patrolled by 18,000 U.S. border agents compared to 2,200 in the north.

The National Border Patrol Council, the border patrol union, says at least another 2,000 agents are needed on the Canadian border, which runs 5,500 miles from Alaska to Washington State and Maine. Herdina says the most effective tool in tracking illegal border crossers is not the border agents or surveillance airplanes; it’s the roughly 100 ranchers who span Montana's border with Canada.

"They are our best asset," said Herdina, who is vice-president of the Montana branch of the union.

Last year, one rancher called the border patrol to report two strangers on his land, Herdina said. They were two Guatemalans who had crossed the border illegally.

Janas Strauser, owner of 66 Ranch on the border, said: "The people up here will report people who cross the border. The ranchers and farmers call them in."

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-refugee-plan-revives-concerns-over-porous-u-094834943.html

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My dead Irish Setter could cross your border ...