Selene Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Anyone want to make book on Hastert was paying to silence boy(s) that he molested as a wrestling coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The pertinent point is personal and financial privacy is dead in the United States and lying to a federal agent about your personal life to protect your privacy is a felony punishable by many years in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 The pertinent point is personal and financial privacy is dead in the United States and lying to a federal agent about your personal life to protect your privacy is a felony punishable by many years in prison.Yep...I still think the strike makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Funny how this just happens to occur while SCOTUS is considering the marriage issue...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/us/politics/hastert-indictment.html?emc=edit_na_20150529&nlid=53564225You could sense this coming...A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 This is most reminiscent of Allen Drury's Advise and Consent (1959). There the president's cronies try to blackmail a closeted senator into voting their way on a confirmation, and the senator commits suicide (as such people always did in those days). To date we have no evidence that anybody used this to sway Hastert's vote.(So THAT's why the coach was so willing to help me with my holds!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 This is most reminiscent of Allen Drury's Advise and Consent (1959). There the president's cronies try to blackmail a closeted senator into voting their way on a confirmation, and the senator commits suicide (as such people always did in those days). To date we have no evidence that anybody used this to sway Hastert's vote.(So THAT's why the coach was so willing to help me with my holds!)Lol - very nice!I always wanted to wrestle on the girls team...however their coach was a heterosexual bigot...A heterosexualphobe...A...the real war is in the language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The rumour mill is being fed by 'sources' and 'officials.' From the Los Angeles Times, Dennis Hastert made payments to conceal sexual misconduct, sources say: Asked why Hastert was making the payments, the official said it was to conceal Hastert’s past relationship with the male. “It was sex,’’ the source said. The other official confirmed that the misconduct involved sexual abuse. The issue of blackmail is unresolved. I expect that the identity of the hush-money recipient will come out at some time. If Hastert is determined to conceal the 'misconduct,' the mystery at the heart of the scandal will only grow -- until the truth is revealed.That is when OL's reigning Queer Theorist can weigh in. Who was the prettiest Speaker of the House? Which Atlas Shrugged character does this rich and famous man resemble most? The menu of choices is explained at Shmoop's elaborate AS project.-- by some lights, it can be argued that Hastert has paid the 'fine' for misconduct, directly to the 'injured party' ... which makes me wonder if a Christophile would suggest the millstone and the sea as further justice. By Queer Theory lights Hastert's partner in crime came to terms with the Evil that was performed upon him:Hastert "Imprinted" a foreign gender/sexual/orientation identity on Mr X Mr X had in his power to turn away from anger Mr X turned away from anger By turning away from anger at the violation, Mr X broke the imprinting. Win-win Less clear is the justice of the non-angered X bleeding Hastert of dollars in increments to the total of 1.7 million smackers.Utterly unclear is how justice will fall upon Hastert. If not the millstone and the sea, his end-days in federal prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Pettiest ...Nancy RuPaul Pelosi???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Pelosi was a gorgeous woman throughout her fecund years (can I say that on the air?).She is older than the hills now, and should be allowed to age as much as anybody in Congress, in my opinion. However, my advice is almost always that incumbents retire after a feed at the power trough, before corruption settles into their visages, like the spooky portrait of Dorian Gray.RuPaul had a perfect face for drag, and talent and drive to burn, That face and persona has made boatloads of money for all and sundry Not forever famous, but hey.Wait a minute. Are you just trying to 'sex up' this thread so I invoke Queer Theory, Adam? Take this!Shades of RuPaul. Edited May 30, 2015 by william.scherk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Is it me, or does that picture of Hastert resemble Phil Coates?Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The pertinent point is personal and financial privacy is dead in the United States and lying to a federal agent about your personal life to protect your privacy is a felony punishable by many years in prison.It is.Oddly enough, it has become the secular version of God watching everyone. Younger generations won't know what privacy is as they take for granted everyone knowing everything about others.Like most other social phenomena, it has both a good side and a bad side. The good side is that it can inhibit people from doing evil by the awareness of their accountability for their actions... and the bad side is blame, the angry unjust accusation of others, which is the root cause of every evil.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Is it me, or does that picture of Hastert resemble Phil Coates? MichaelIt's you. It looks like you.--Brantdriving in the wedge, hitting it with the back of my ax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/Dershowitz-Hastert-indictment-Newsmax-TV/2015/05/29/id/647617/?Dkt_nbr=ezan2lvx&nmx_source=DailyCaller-Conservative&nmx_medium=widget&nmx_content=654&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2"Dershowitz noted the federal "structuring statutes" Hastert is accused of breaking "were intended to prevent money laundering, to prevent drug dealing, to prevent income tax evasion. ""Paying hush money is not illegal," Dershowitz said. "He didn't want anybody to know about it, so he took money out in small amounts and the banks wouldn't report it. That is not within the heartland of what this statute was intended to cover – and then to have an indictment which essentially reveals that which Hastert was trying to conceal puts the government in the position of essentially being part of the blackmail – and it's just not right." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/Dershowitz-Hastert-indictment-Newsmax-TV/2015/05/29/id/647617/?Dkt_nbr=ezan2lvx&nmx_source=DailyCaller-Conservative&nmx_medium=widget&nmx_content=654&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2"Dershowitz noted the federal "structuring statutes" Hastert is accused of breaking "were intended to prevent money laundering, to prevent drug dealing, to prevent income tax evasion. ""Paying hush money is not illegal," Dershowitz said. "He didn't want anybody to know about it, so he took money out in small amounts and the banks wouldn't report it. That is not within the heartland of what this statute was intended to cover – and then to have an indictment which essentially reveals that which Hastert was trying to conceal puts the government in the position of essentially being part of the blackmail – and it's just not right."Why is it bad, Dersh, to laundry money, drug deal and evade income taxes? If such are wrong why is it illogical that Hastert gets clobbered? That's what wrong laws are for--to totalitarian terrorize for terror is the only real, practical and used way to totalitarianism (and don't talk to the cops!)--Brantif he had molested a girl he wouldn't have needed to pay out so much money for boy molestation is so much worse as men run this country and all men were once boys and women still get the short end of the stick (and many men don't think fucking girls--even little girls--is so bad for, after all, it's heterosexual!, and they remember how badly they wanted to do that too when they were adolescents if not young men or even now next door to their dotage, and homosexuals are out of that loop and a freebie target for the heterosexual tribalists) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 if he had molested a girl he wouldn't have needed to pay out so much money for boy molestation is so much worse as men run this country... Men are not running this country and haven't for quite a while.America is run by males who failed to become men,only because there are more males than men.Man... the vanishing species.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 A lot of men running this country are like you, just not like you in ways you like. I call them half-assed men.--Branttestosterone counts for something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 A lot of men running this country are like you, just not like you in ways you like. I call them half-assed men.--Branttestosterone counts for something...and I call them completely-assed males... and that explains why the government is what it is. What distinguishes a man from a male is values.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 if he had molested a girl he wouldn't have needed to pay out so much money for boy molestation is so much worse as men run this country and all men were once boys and women still get the short end of the stick (and many men don't think fucking girls--even little girls--is so bad for, after all, it's heterosexual!, and they remember how badly they wanted to do that too when they were adolescents if not young men or even now next door to their dotage, and homosexuals are out of that loop and a freebie target for the heterosexual tribalists)Run-on, revised:If Hastert had inappropriately touched (molested) a female student he would not have needed to pay out so much money. Molestation of boys by men is seen as much worse than molestation of girls by men. Men run this country. All men were boys. Women get shorted. 'Many' men don't think fucking girls (molesting/touching inappropriately) is that bad (wrong) ... These 'many' men put molestation of young girls under the heading "Heterosexual sex." These men remember how horny they were as adolescents. These men when boys wanted to fuck (young) girls. Homosexuals are 'out of the loop' of wanting to fuck (young) girls. Homosexuals are a freebie target for the heterosexual tribalists. All interesting assertions, some well-warranted, some not. A perfect framework for an essay that could shine a light on the blackmail/hush-money scandal, and the hypocrisies of men. A joke going around on Twitter: "The revelation of an inappropriate sexual affair is the closest thing Congress has to term limits." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I frequently put up stuff I cannot document or even fails personal experience for I didn't experience it. It's usually called "conjecture."--BrantI call it something(s) to think about--I'm proud of the idea of "heterosexual tribalist," which I first thought of while writing my post; it's one of the biggest and safest tribes to belong to if not the biggest and the safest apart from the human tribe as such--there are many tribes and one can belong to many too with a lot of overlapping, complete or not, and sometimes it's not a good idea to let on about all of your tribal affiliations (though the model railroading affiliation--bores me--is quite safe, even quaint)first time I've been Cliff-Noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wonder if people in fact think male-on-male child molestation is worse than male-on-female. How would you measure this? One source of information would be conviction rates for men accused of one or the other. The claim predicts a higher rate for male-on-male, because juries more easily condemn it. Or sentences for those convicted. Another would be a survey of literary or dramatic treatments of these acts, with information about how these works fared commercially. Lolita is the only one that comes to mind.Maybe there are others, but I'd have to see some hard data before I accepted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Me too.--Wilkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I wonder if people in fact think male-on-male child molestation is worse than male-on-female. How would you measure this?I'd cut through all the relativistic crap and call them fifty shades of black.It's like people who have stepped off a cliff arguing over who's falling faster.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I wonder if people in fact think male-on-male child molestation is worse than male-on-female. How would you measure this?I'd cut through all the relativistic crap and call them fifty shades of black.It's like people who have stepped off a cliff arguing over who's falling faster.GregGreg slung, the bat connected, the ball flew out of the park!--Casey envy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 I wonder if people in fact think male-on-male child molestation is worse than male-on-female. How would you measure this?I'd cut through all the relativistic crap and call them fifty shades of black.It's like people who have stepped off a cliff arguing over who's falling faster.GregGreg [redacted by an algorythm] , the bat connected, the ball flew out of the park!--Casey envy Change that envy person because the Mighty Casey has struck out according to the poem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 "swung" (I was never here and this never happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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