Barbara Branden Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 You guys over hyeah are missing one. No doubt. Hey, It Beats Listening to Lanza.I've never understood why anyone likes Lanza.I 'm reproducing here one of my posts from an earlier discussion of romantic music on OL Jonathan had written, "Btw, does obsessively listening to Mario Lanza turn one into self-important twit, or are self-important twits obsessively attracted to Mario Lanza? Either way, there appears to be a lot of evidence that connects obsessing over Lanza with being a self-important twit."Please find it in your heart to forgive Lanza for numbering Perigo among his fans. Lanza (of whom I am a passionate admirer) had and has many more respectable fans.When conductor Serge Koussevitzky heard the young Lanza sing, "his response was shocked, sincere, and immediate. Repeating the words 'Caruso redivivus', the maestro made immediate plans for Lanza to sing at Tanglewood. "Yours is a voice such as is heard only once in a hundred years," he said. Enrico Rosati, formerly coach to Gigli, said that Mario Lanza had one of the most beautiful voices he had ever heard.Lanza has been a major influence on the generation of tenors who came after him. Luciano Pavarotti, Plácido Domingo, Josep Carreras, Andrea Bocelli, and Jerry Hadley all credit Lanza as an inspiration to them in pursuing their chosen careers.Most of the music critics of his day agreed that Lanza's vocal range and quality were at least on a par with Caruso.Maria Callas (not known for her praise of contemporary singers) called Lanza "Caruso's successor," and in a 1973 interview said of him: "My biggest regret is not to have had the opportunity of singing with the greatest tenor voice I have ever heard.""You have the greatest given throat ever heard in a young man." - Tito Schipa"Mario Lanza has the greatest singing instrument ever bestowed on a human being." - George London"We were both surprised by the size of the voice--we were also impressed by Lanza’s innate musicality. No doubt he could have had an outstanding operatic career." - Richard Bonynge and Joan Sutherland"Mario could have sung in any opera house in the world and his career would have been sensational." - Dorothy Kirsten"He had a voice of enormous dramatic impact." - Placido Domingo"His magnificent voice enriched our lives and introduced us to a wide spectrum of classical and popular music." - José Carreras"He had a fantastic voice--not just wonderful--a fantastic voice." - Luciano PavarottiBarbara I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 My only objection to Lanza is where he sang a song he shouldn't have, like Danny Boy. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Coates Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Subject: Dumb, Musically Illiterate PhilBarbara,I am a Lanza Virgin. Plus I don't like opera (loud shrill screaming in a foreign language.) When I like Jazz it is dumbed down or 'pop' like Al Hirt - that's it. I like pop music, Elvis Presley, etc. Simple but rhythmic stuff. Rock 'n roll. The Beatles. Bob Dylan. Paul Simon. My tastes are very middle America and pretty lowbrow in music. Nothing flaky or highbrow or esoteric.In classical music, my tastes run to the Baroque (Handel, Purcell, Vivaldi, Telemann, some Bach) and not too much else.Two Questions:1. Is there any hope for me? Or am I simply condemned to be an uncultured slob, musically speaking?2. Is there anything simple, basic, bourgeois by Lanza that I might like? You know, more pop and uncultured than opera.PS, I'm thinking of becoming adventurous and experimenting with that dark, edgy, beatnik composer Lawrence Welk. Edited June 9, 2010 by Philip Coates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginny Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Phil, if you can find a CD of Friml's operetta, Vagabond King with Lanza in the lead, get it. It's the most fantastic thing ever. Based on a french legend, vagabond and thief Villon becomes King For A Day when Louis XI gets fed up. The songs are heartbreaking, the fighting song when Villon a king stirs up the soldiers against the hated Burgondians will double your heart rate, the love song Only A Rose will make you cry, as you will when prostitute Villette (sp) sings Love For Sale. As for The Drinking Song - funny as hell. The whole operetta is filled with the best songs ever. Try it. But it has to be Lanza. No other singer has done Villon justice. Edited June 9, 2010 by ginny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algernonsidney Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) You're missing the point. It was not the singer of a song she responded to as embodying her sense of life. .It was the melody.That's actually what I am referring to, Barbara. This especially applies to Mariah's early stuff, before she divorced Tommy Mottola. There was a very happy and positive vibe to her music. Another guy I know described her as "syrupy sweet." I really prefer the Mariah Carey of those days. Edited June 9, 2010 by Chris Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 2. Is there anything simple, basic, bourgeois by Lanza that I might like? You know, more pop and uncultured than opera.Give these a shot, and report back: You say "by Lanza", but he was a performer, not a writer. He came and went before rock n roll was around, and maybe he's just not for you. I, for one, can only take him in small doses.PS, I'm thinking of becoming adventurous and experimenting with that dark, edgy, beatnik composer Lawrence Welk.My Grandmother lives for the reruns. Every Sunday, 5pm, don't even try to call then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 If it didn't come from her or her husband she wouldn't have liked it. She reportedly explored Deems Taylor’s work, guided by the composer. She wanted him to create an opera based on Anthem, using atonality to depict the bad guys. I believe you’ll find this in the Heller bio. It would be worth bringing up the next time Perigo goes on one of his rants…I mean assuming any conversation with that entity would ever be worth having.Your comment implies that she wasn’t open to being introduced to new music, depending on who was doing the introducing. That would be rather second handed, don’t you think? She made the request about not sending her records because strangers had such a bad batting average in picking music she’d like, I don’t read anything more into it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNA Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Here's a song I am sure Ayn would have enjoyed very much!!!! It's a great song!!!!!!!! Too bad it falls outside the ortho box of what is acceptable. To me, it's definitely not!!!!! But hey, that's ME and don't care!!!!!! "Just Fine"You know I love musicAnd every time I hear something hotIt makes me wanna moveIt makes me wanna have funBut it’s something about this joint right hereThis joint right hereIts makes me wanna…WooohLet it go……Can’t let this thing called love get away from youFeel free right now, go do what you want to doCan’t let nobody take it away, from you, from me, from weNo time for mopping around, are you kidding?And no time for negative vibes, cause I’m winningIt’s been a long week, I put in my hardestGonna live my life, feels so good to get it rightSo I like what I see when I’m looking at meWhen I’m walking past the mirrorNo stress through the night, at a time in my lifeAin’t worried about if you feel itGot my head on straight, I got my mind rightI aint gonna let you kill itYou see I wouldn’t change my life, my life’s just…Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohJust fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohYou see I wouldn’t change my life, my life’s just fineFeels so good, when you’re doing all the things that you want to doGet the best out of life, treat yourself to something newKeep your head up highIn yourself, believe in you, believe in meHaving a really good time, I’m not complainingAnd I’m gonna still wear a smile if it's rainingI got to enjoy myself regardlessI appreciate life, I’m so glad I got mineSo I like what I see when I’m looking at meWhen I’m walking past the mirrorAint worried about you and what you gonna doI’m a lady so I must stay classyGot to keep it hot, keep it togetherIf I want to get betterYou see I wouldn’t change my life, my life’s justFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohJust fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohYou see I won’t change my life, my life’s just fineI aint gon’ let nothing get in my way(I ain't gone let nobody bring me down, no, no, no)No matter what nobody has to say(No way, no way, no way)I ain’t gon’ let nothing get in my wayNo matter what nobody has to sayFeels so good, when you’re doing all the things that you want to doGet the best out of life, treat yourself to something newIt’s a really good thing to sayThat I won’t change my life, my life’s just fineFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohJust fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohYou see I won’t change my life, my life’s just fineSo I like what I see when I’m looking at meWhen I’m walking past the mirrorNo stress through the night, at a time in my lifeAin’t worried about if you feel itGot my head on straight, I got my mind rightI ain’t gonna let you kill itYou see I wouldn’t change my life, my life’s justFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohFine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohJust fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, oooohYou see I wouldn’t change my life, my life’s just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anna123 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Ran across this forum looking for music that had objectivist ideas in it. Not so easy to find I see. Even though this is an older thread it is a timeless quest probably. Anyway, this song isn't quite that but it is a song called 'Wyatt's Torch', about 'Wyatt's Torch"from Atlas Shrugged. http://www.juliekovich.com/DISCOGRAPHY.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I am sure she either liked or would have liked the Sinatra Standard: I did it my way...Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Ran across this forum looking for music that had objectivist ideas in it. Not so easy to find I see. Even though this is an older thread it is a timeless quest probably. Anyway, this song isn't quite that but it is a song called 'Wyatt's Torch', about 'Wyatt's Torch"from Atlas Shrugged. http://www.juliekovich.com/DISCOGRAPHY.htmlAnna,Welcome to OL.That is a cool song. I don't know if Ayn Rand would have liked it, but I sure do. Nice hook.I listened to several at that link and I also liked "Dr. of Destruction."It was a pleasant surprise to come across Julie Kovich. I don't generally listen to that kind of pop.Here's the most popular song of hers on Amazon (which is not bad): What Is It About You?According to what I dug up, "Wyatt's Torch" is from 1996 and her latest album is from 2002. Whatever happened to her?Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backlighting Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Here's an article referencing "Wyatts Torch"http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/14/did-obama-ignite-wyatts-torch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I just re-listened to Julie Kovich's song "Wyatt's Torch."I really like it. Whew! It wasn't just me being sleepy last night. So how do you hear it? Well, it's kind of convoluted. There is nowhere I can find it in an embeddable form, so here is a walkthrough from the link Ms. Anna was so kind to provide.First go to the link below.http://www.juliekovich.com/DISCOGRAPHY.htmlYou will probably have to have Quicktime to hear the songs on that page (not all are available), but I'm not sure. In any case, you can get Quicktime from Apple here (it's free).But before you do all that, try to see if your browser will play the tune as it is. If not, jump through the Quicktime hoops.So... after you land on Julie Kovich's Discography page, go to the left column and look at the third song starting from the top. That is "Wyatt's Torch."Then just listen.Like I said, I think it is pretty cool.If you want to hear it, I suggest you do it soon. That page looks in disrepair so it might be taken down before too long. Also, at the time of this post, the song is not for sale on Amazon or another site that seems to be hers, JK7 Music.I kind of feel sorry for this singer because she obviously has talent (pop singer talent, but talent). Alas, she is nowhere to be found in the current culture.MichaelEDIT: You can buy the full CD (without audio preview) on Amazon here: Wyatt's Torch. It's only three and a half bucks or so used. (About seven dollars or so with shipping.) Incidentally, the name of the album is the same as the name of the song. I just bought a copy to have in my archives. Also, it seems Julie Kovich uses another name at times, Julie Genevis. But it's hard to find stuff on her, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Let me make an addition to my liking Kovich. I don't like the canned-sounding arrangements of her production, nor do I like the emotional distance in her lyrics.However, I do like the hook (imagery and music) of "Wyatt's Torch" and she sings pretty decently. It sticks in memory in a very pleasant manner, at least in mine.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarnold Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Here's one (potentially "pop", at least) she could have dug: http://youtu.be/kbvEk6lujTQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDS Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I don't think Rand would have liked pop music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I don't think Rand would have liked pop music. If you weren't her husband she likely would have disliked any suggestions.Dagny must have been driving herself crazy only listening to the music of one man. Even someone crazy about Bach wouldn't have been that nuts unless literally insane.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'm pretty sure 2 Cellos would have given her a chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedechaine Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I Got a Name by Jim Croce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Where you going to tomorrow?Where you goin' with the mask I found?And I feel, and I feelWhen the dogs begin to smell herWill she smell alone? When the dogs do find herGot time, time, to wait for tomorrow... h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Every time I first hear that bass voice of Stone Temple Pilots I say WOW. Rand would have liked them if she had been born in America from maybe the 1940's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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