DallasCowboys Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Hey guys,I am confused on what's the difference between the two? It seems they both hold a lot of similar ideals. Sorry this isn't about Objectivism which this section asks for, but I couldn't think of other spot to place it. Thanks,David C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoAMadDeathWish Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Subjectivism and pragmatism with regard to what?These are really broad brush strokes which don't denote any specific philosophical system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 No, both are real philosophical schools in their own right. A check up of them in the AR Lexicon may surprise you, Naomi.David, I'd say pragmatism is a subset of subjectivism, differentiated that the first holds that only what is practical, what 'works' or what 'worked' last time, is right. Followed by, what is good for the greatest number, is right.Simply: experience without principle -- or, empirical fact apart from reasoned concepts.Subjectivism as you know, elevates primacy of consciousness - so whatever a man wishes ~feels~ to be true, is true. Reality then is dependent upon the contents of his mind, which will differ from his consciousness to an other's. So, rationalist or mystic ideas with disregard of any facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoAMadDeathWish Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 No, both are real philosophical schools in their own right. A check up of them in the AR Lexicon may surprise you, Naomi.David, I'd say pragmatism is a subset of subjectivism, differentiated that the first holds that only what is practical, what 'works' or what 'worked' last time, is right. Followed by, what is good for the greatest number, is right.Simply: experience without principle -- or, empirical fact apart from reasoned concepts.Subjectivism as you know, elevates primacy of consciousness - so whatever a man wishes ~feels~ to be true, is true. Reality then is dependent upon the contents of his mind, which will differ from his consciousness to an other's. So, rationalist or mystic ideas with disregard of any facts.Yeah, according to the AR lexicon, the doctrines that it describes are labeled "subjectivism" and "pragmatism", but the usage of these terms is totally different outside of Objectivism, which is why I'm asking DallasCowboys to define his terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Of course dear Naomi, defining terms is all-important. All the more, seeing as David is obviously an existentialist and this is a Marxist forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Marxist? That's absurd.Maoist eh maybe( the whole cultural revolutionary thingy, that seems to permeate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasCowboys Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wait this isn't a Marxist forum? Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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anthony Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 "I refuse to join any forum that would have me as a member". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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