Natanyahu Lowers the Boom


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Bibi Natanyahu address the Israeli Knesset. This is what he said:

To Ismail Haniya, and the leaders and operatives of Hamas:


We, the people of Israel, owe you a huge debt of gratitude. You
have succeeded where we have failed. Because never before, in the
history of the modern State of Israel, has the Jewish people been so
united, like one person with one heart. You stole three of our most
precious children, and slaughtered them in cold blood. But before
we could discover the horrible truth, we had 18 days of pain and
anxiety while we searched for them, during which our nation united
as never before, in prayer, in hopes, in mutual support.


And now, as you continue to launch deadly missiles indiscriminately,
intended to maim and murder as many civilians as possible, while you
take cowardly refuge behind your own civilians - you continue to
inspire us to hold strongly onto our newly discovered unity.
Whatever disputes we Jews may have with each other, we now know that
we have one common goal: we will defeat you.


But we are offering you now one last chance. Within 24 hours, all
rocket fire - and I mean all rocket fire - will cease. Completely.
Forever.


I give you formal notice that our tanks are massed at the Gaza
border, with artillery and air support at the ready. We have
already dropped leaflets over the northern parts of the Gaza strip,
warning civilians of our impending arrival, and that they should
evacuate southward, forthwith. If you fail to meet our ultimatum,
we are coming in, and, with God's help, this time we will not
leave. Every centimeter of land that we conquer will be annexed to
Israel, so that there will never be another attack launched at our
civilians from there.


Even so, we will continue to keep the door open to allow you to
surrender gracefully. The moment you announce that you are laying
down arms, we will halt our advance, and there we will draw our new
borders. If you continue to attack our citizens, we will continue
to roll southwards, driving you out of territory that you will never
again contaminate with your evil presence.


It pains me deeply that your civilians will be made homeless. But
we did not choose this war; you did. And if our choice is between
allowing our citizens to be targeted mercilessly by your genocidal
savagery, versus turning your civilians into refugees, I regret that
we must choose the latter. If only you loved your people as much as
you hate ours, this war would never have happened.


To the rest of the world: Israel has tired of your ceaseless
chidings that we should "show restraint". When you have your entire
population under constant missile fire from an implacable enemy
whose stated goal is the of murder every man, woman and child in
your land, then you may come and talk to us about "restraint".
Until then, we respectfully suggest that you keep your double
standards to yourselves. This time, Hamas has gone too far, and we
will do whatever we have to in order to protect our population.


Hamas, once again, I thank you for bringing our people together with
such clarity of mind and unity of purpose. The people of Israel do
not fear the long road ahead. Am Yisrael Chai.

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To which I add. Don't fuck around with the Jews.

Ba'al Chatzaf

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This is called leadership.

Every centimeter of land that we conquer will be annexed to Israel, so that there will never be another attack launched at our civilians from there.

And a beautiful rhetorical flourish with:

Even so, we will continue to keep the door open to allow you to surrender gracefully. The moment you announce that you are laying down arms, we will halt our advance, and there we will draw our new borders. If you continue to attack our citizens, we will continue to roll southwards, driving you out of territory that you will never again contaminate with your evil presence.

And...

If only you loved your people as much as you hate ours, this war would never have happened.

Finally, a NOTICE to the rest of the world...

To the rest of the world: Israel has tired of your ceaseless chidings that we should "show restraint". When you have your entire population under constant missile fire from an implacable enemy whose stated goal is the of murder every man, woman and child in
your land, then you may come and talk to us about "restraint". Until then, we respectfully suggest that you keep your double standards to yourselves. This time, Hamas has gone too far, and we will do whatever we have to in order to protect our population.

Great man.

Can you even imagine this current "President" of the United States making this speech?

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Thanks Bob for posting this. I was going to look for it today.

I assume since this speech was to the people of Israel, that he gave it in Hebrew.

Do you know whether he did?

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A great man and a great people. An expression of sanity in an insane world. If we had a man worthy of being called president of the United States he would express total support for Israel and stop supporting the United Nations.

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

Yeah. It looks to be a cut-and-paste job of small Binyamin Netanyahu statements mixed in with statements made up of whole cloth. I can't find any current news record of this speech to the Knesset (Yonatan Netanyahu is not in the Knesset). The speech is not quoted anywhere in Israeli English media, though the speech/hoax has already made the rounds on Twitter, with pro-Palestinian voices using it as evidence of the brutality of the Israeli leadership.

Here's a link to a page calling hoax:

And here is a page with a certain Bob Kolker spreading the story in comments.

And here is another purported Bibi speech to the Knesset ... I won't give a link to the source, observing the same protocol as Bob.

This is a speech made by Israel Prime Minister benjamin Netanyahu to his cabinet about 2 days ago. It was reprinted by Affan Sosibo for the African National Congress Youth League on the 8th July 2014.

I quote…” We are not obliged even the least to try to prove to anybody and to the blacks and Arabs that we are superior people. We have demonstrated that to the blacks and Arabs in 1001 ways. The State of Israel that we know of today has not been created by wishful thinking. We have created it at the expenses of intelligence, sweat and blood………We do not pretend like other whites that we like the blacks. The fact that, blacks and Arabs look like human beings and act like human beings do not necessarily make them sensible human beings. Hedgehogs are not porcupines and lizards are not crocodiles because they look alike. If God had wanted us to be equal to the blacks and Arabs, he would have created us all of a uniform colour and intellect. But he created us differently: Whites, Blacks, Yellow, Rulers and the ruled.

Intellectually, we are superior to the Blacks and Arabs; that has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt over the years. I believe that a Jew is honest, God fearing person, who has demonstrated practically the right way of being……By now every one of us has seen it practically that the Blacks and Arabs cannot rule themselves. Give them guns and they will kill each other. They are good in nothing else but making noise, dancing, marrying many wives and indulging in sex. Let us all accept that the Blackman is a symbol of poverty, mental inferiority, laziness and emotional incompetence. Isn’t it plausible? Therefore that the Whiteman is created to rule the Blackman……And here is a creature (Blackman) that lacks foresight….. The average Black does not plan his life beyond a year”.

The day God brings justice he will pay for the way he thinks and treats others. Jews don't even like him or his likes. Zionists not Jews!

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

And I fell for it too!

http://www.haaretz.com/news/full-text-of-netanyahu-s-foreign-policy-speech-at-bar-ilan-1.277922

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Here is the full text according to Haaretz.

Honored guests, citizens of Israel.

Peace was always the desire of our people. Our prophets had a vision of peace, we greet each other with peace, our prayers end with the word peace. This evening we are in the center named for two leaders who were groundbreakers for peace -Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat - and we share their vision.

Two and a half months ago, I was sworn in at the Knesset as the Prime Minister of Israel. I promised that I would establish a unity government, and did so. I believed, and still believe, that we need unity now more than ever before.

We are currently facing three tremendous challenges: The Iranian threat, the financial crisis, and the promotion of peace.

The Iranian threat still is before us in full force, as it became quite clear yesterday. The greatest danger to Israel, to the Middle East, and to all of humanity, is the encounter between extremist Islam and nuclear weapons. I discussed this with President Obama on my visit to Washington, and will be discussing it next week on my visit with European leaders. I have been working tirelessly for many years to form an international front against Iran arming itself with nuclear armaments.

With the world financial crisis, we acted immediately to bring about stability to the Israeli economy. We passed a two-year budget in the government and will pass it through the Knesset very soon. The second challenge, rather, the third, so very important challenge, facing us today, is promoting peace. I discussed this also with President Obama. I strongly support the idea of regional peace that he is advancing. I share the President of the U.S.A's desire to bring about a new era of reconciliation in our region.

I discussed this in my meetings with President Mubarak in Egypt and with King Abdullah in Jordan to obtain the assistance of these leaders in the effort to expand the circle of peace in our region.

I appeal tonight to the leaders of the Arab countries and say: Let us meet. Let us talk about peace. Let us make peace. I am willing to meet at any time, at any place, in Damascus, in Riyadh, in Beirut, and in Jerusalem as well. (Applause)

I call upon the leaders of the Arab countries to join together with the Palestinians and with us to promote economic peace. Economic peace is not a substitute for peace, but it is a very important component in achieving it. Together we can advance projects that can overcome the problems facing our region. For example, water desalinization. And we can utilize the advantages of our region, such as maximizing the use of solar energy, or utilizing its geographical advantages to lay pipelines, pipelines to Africa and Europe.

Together we can realize the initiatives that I see in the Persian Gulf, which amaze the entire world, and also amaze me. I call upon the talented entrepreneurs of the Arab world, to come and invest here, to assist the Palestinians and us, to give the economy a jump-start. Together we can develop industrial zones, we can create thousands of jobs, and foster tourism that will draw millions, people who want to walk in the footsteps of history, in Nazareth and Bethlehem, in the heights of Jericho and on the walls of Jerusalem, on the shore of the Sea of Galilee, and at the baptismal site of the Jordan. There is a huge potential for the development of tourism potential here. If you only agree to work together.

I appeal to you, our Palestinian neighbors, and to the leadership of the Palestinian Authority. Let us begin peace negotiations immediately without prior conditions. Israel is committed to international agreements, and expects all sides to fulfill their obligations. I say to the Palestinians: We want to live with you in peace, quiet, and good neighborly relations. We want our children and your children to 'know war no more.'

We do not want parents and wives, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, to know the sorrow of bereavement. We want our children to dream of a better future for humankind. We want us and our neighbors to devote our efforts to 'plowshares and pruning hooks' and not to "swords and spears"? I know the terror of war, I participated in battles, I lost good friends who fell [in battle], I lost a brother. I saw the pain of bereaved families from up close - very many times. I do not want war. No one in Israel wants war. (Applause)

Let us join hands and work together in peace, together with our neighbors. There is no limit to the flourishing growth that we can achieve for both peoples - in the economy, in agriculture, in commerce, tourism, education - but, above all, in the ability to give our younger generation hope to live in a place that's good to live in, a life of creative work, a peaceful life with much of interest, with opportunity and hope.

Friends, with the advantages of peace so clear, so obvious, we must ask ourselves why is peace still so far from us, even though our hands are extended for peace? Why has the conflict going on for over 60 years? To bring an end to it, there must be a sincere, genuine answer to the question: what is the root of the conflict? In his speech at the Zionist Congress in Basel, in speaking of his grand vision of a Jewish homeland for the Jewish People, Theodor Herzl, the visionary of the State of Israel, said: This is so big, we must talk about it only in the simplest words possible.

I now am asking that when we speak of the huge challenge of peace, we must use the simplest words possible, using person to person terms. Even with our eyes on the horizon, we must have our feet on the ground, firmly rooted in truth. The simple truth is that the root of the conflict has been - and remains - the refusal to recognize the right of the Jewish People to its own state in its historical homeland.

In 1947 when the United Nations proposed the Partition Plan for a Jewish state and an Arab state, the entire Arab world rejected the proposal, while the Jewish community accepted it with great rejoicing and dancing. The Arabs refused any Jewish state whatsoever, with any borders whatsoever.

Whoever thinks that the continued hostility to Israel is a result of our forces in Judea, Samaria and Gaza is confusing cause and effect. The attacks on us began in the 1920s, became an overall attack in 1948 when the state was declared, continued in the 1950s with the fedaayyin attacks, and reached their climax in 1967 on the eve of the Six-Day War, with the attempt to strangle Israel. All this happened nearly 50 years before a single Israeli soldier went into Judea and Samaria.

To our joy, Egypt and Jordan left this circle of hostility. They signed peace agreements with us which ended their hostility to Israel. It brought about peace.

To our deep regret, this is not happening with the Palestinians. The closer we get to a peace agreement with them, the more they are distancing themselves from peace. They raise new demands. They are not showing us that they want to end the conflict.

A great many people are telling us that withdrawal is the key to peace with the Palestinians. But the fact is that all our withdrawals were met by huge waves of suicide bombers.

We tried withdrawal by agreement, withdrawal without an agreement, we tried partial withdrawal and full withdrawal. In 2000, and once again last year, the government of Israel, based on good will, tried a nearly complete withdrawal, in exchange for the end of the conflict, and were twice refused.

We withdrew from the Gaza Strip to the last centimeter, we uprooted dozens of settlements and turned thousands of Israelis out of their homes. In exchange, what we received were missiles raining down on our cities, our towns and our children. The argument that withdrawal would bring peace closer did not stand up to the test of reality.

With Hamas in the south and Hezbollah in the north, they keep on saying that they want to 'liberate' Ashkelon in the south and Haifa and Tiberias.

Even the moderates among the Palestinians are not ready to say the most simplest things: The State of Israel is the national homeland of the Jewish

People and will remain so. (Applause)

Friends, in order to achieve peace, we need courage and integrity on the part of the leaders of both sides. I am speaking today with courage and honesty. We need courage and sincerity not only on the Israeli side: we need the Palestinian leadership to rise and say, simply "We have had enough of this conflict. We recognize the right of the Jewish People to a state its own in this Land. We will live side by side in true peace." I am looking forward to this moment.

We want them to say the simplest things, to our people and to their people. This will then open the door to solving other problems, no matter how difficult. The fundamental condition for ending the conflict is the public, binding and sincere Palestinian recognition of Israel as the national homeland of the Jewish People. (Applause)

For this to have practical meaning, we need a clear agreement to solve the Palestinian refugee problem outside of the borders of the State of Israel.

For it is clear to all that the demand to settle the Palestinian refugees inside of Israel, contradicts the continued existence of the State of Israel as the state of the Jewish People. We must solve the problem of the Arab refugees. And I believe that it is possible to solve it. Because we have proven that we ourselves solved a similar problem. Tiny Israel took in the hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees from Arab countries who were uprooted from their homes.

Therefore, justice and logic dictates that the problem of the Palestinian refugees must be solved outside the borders of the State of Israel. There is broad national agreement on this. (Applause)

I believe that with good will and international investment of we can solve this humanitarian problem once and for all.

Friends, up to now, I have been talking about the need for the Palestinians to ecognize our rights. Now I will talk about the need for us to recognize their rights.

The connection of the Jewish People to the Land has been in existence for more than 3,500 years. Judea and Samaria, the places where our forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob walked, our forefathers David, Solomon, Isaiah and Jeremiah - this is not a foreign land, this is the Land of our

Forefathers. (Applause)

The right of the Jewish People to a state in the Land of Israel does not arise from the series of disasters that befell the Jewish People over 2,000 years - persecutions, expulsions, pogroms, blood libels, murders, which reached its climax in the Holocaust, an unprecedented tragedy in the history of nations. There are those who say that without the Holocaust the State would not have been established, but I say that if the State of Israel had been established in time, the Holocaust would not have taken place. (Applause) The tragedies that arose from the Jewish People's helplessness show very sharply that we need a protective state. The right to establish our sovereign state here, in the Land of Israel, arises from one simple fact: Eretz Israel is the birthplace of the Jewish People. (Applause)

As the first PM David Ben Gurion in the declaration of the State, the State of Israel was established here in Eretz Israel, where the People of Israel created the Book of Books, and gave it to the world.

But, friends, we must state the whole truth here. The truth is that in the area of our homeland, in the heart of our Jewish Homeland, now lives a large population of Palestinians. We do not want to rule over them. We do not want to run their lives. We do not want to force our flag and our culture on them. In my vision of peace, there are two free peoples living side by side in this small land, with good neighborly relations and mutual respect, each with its flag, anthem and government, with neither one threatening its neighbor's security and existence.

These two facts - our link to the Land of Israel, and the Palestinian population who live here, have created deep disagreements within Israeli society. But the truth is that we have much more unity than disagreement.

I came here tonight to talk about the agreement and security that are broad consensus within Israeli society. This is what guides our policy. This policy must take into account the international situation. We have to recognize international agreements but also principles important to the State of Israel. I spoke tonight about the first principle - recognition. Palestinians must truly recognize Israel as the state of the Jewish people. The second principle is demilitarization. Any area in Palestinian hands has to be demilitarization, with solid security measures. Without this condition, there is a real fear that there will be an armed Palestinian state which will become a terrorist base against Israel, as happened in Gaza. We do not want missiles on Petah Tikva, or Grads on the Ben-Gurion international airport. We want peace. (Applause) And, to ensure peace we don't want them to bring in missiles or rockets or have an army, or control of airspace, or make treaties with countries like Iran, or Hezbollah. There is broad agreement on this in Israel. We cannot be expected to agree to a Palestinian state without ensuring that it is demilitarized. This is crucial to the existence of Israel - we must provide for our security needs.

This is why we are now asking our friends in the international community, headed by the USA, for what is necessary for our security, that in any peace agreement, the Palestinian area must be demilitarized. No army, no control of air space. Real effective measures to prevent arms coming in, not what's going on now in Gaza. The Palestinians cannot make military treaties.

Without this, sooner or later, we will have another Hamastan. We can't agree to this. Israel must govern its own fate and security. I told President Obama in Washington, if we get a guarantee of demilitarization, and if the Palestinians recognize Israel as the Jewish state, we are ready to agree to a real peace agreement, a demilitarized Palestinian state side by side with the Jewish state. (Applause)

Whenever we discuss a permanent arrangement, Israel needs defensible borders with Jerusalem remaining the united capital of Israel. (Applause)

The territorial issues will be discussed in a permanent agreement. Till then we have no intention to build new settlements or set aside land for new settlements. But there is a need to have people live normal lives and let mothers and fathers raise their children like everyone in the world. The settlers are not enemies of peace. They are our brothers and sisters. (Applause)

Friends, unity among us is, to my view, vital, and unity will help with reconciliation with our neighbors. Reconciliation must begin now. A strong Palestinian government will strengthen peace. If they truly want peace, and educate their children for peace and stop incitement, we for our part will make every effort, allow them freedom of movement and accessibility, making their lives easier and this will help bring peace. But above all, they must decide: the Palestinians must decide between path of peace and path of Hamas. They must overcome Hamas. Israel will not sit down at conference table with terrorist who seek to destroy it. (Applause)

Hamas are not willing to even let the Red Cross visit our abducted soldier Gilad Shalit who has been in captivity three years, cut off from his family and his country. We want to bring him back whole and well. With help of the international community, there is no reason why we can't have peace. With help of USA, we can do we can do the unbelievable. In 61 years, with constant threats to our existence we have achieved so much. Our microchips power the worlds computers unbelievable, we have found cures for incurable diseases. Israeli drip irrigation waters barren lands throughout the world. Israeli researchers are making worldwide breakthroughs. If our neighbors only work for peace, we can achieve peace. (Applause)

I call upon Arab leaders and Palestinian leaders: Let's go in the path of Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat, Yitzhak Rabin and King Hussein. Let's go in the path of Prophet Isaiah, who spoke thousands of years ago, they shall beat their swords into plowshares and know war no more. Let us know war no more. Let us know peace.

The Kolker post was the speech I wanted to hear, unfortunately, I heard it in my own head...lol

I knew I should have checked it. However, we had plans this afternoon. Beautiful day in the neighborhood.

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Adam, Now that's an even greater speech, and much more credible.

WSS, It's no justification to not link that viciously trash speech, authored by an ANC 'cadre', because you are "observing the same protocol as Bob".

It should be exposed, repudiated and condemned in no uncertain terms, whenever it is quoted.

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Adam, Now that's an even greater speech, and much more credible.

WSS, It's no justification to not link that viciously trash speech, authored by an ANC "cadre", because you are "observing the same protocol as Bob".

It should be exposed, repudiated and condemned in no uncertain terms, whenever it is quoted.

Yes it is.

There were really "clanky" words in it and I just wanted not to hear them.

PDS was infinitely more objective about it.

My anger has not been tamped from the embers of September 11th, 2001.

There are days where I need to go into NY City.

Depending where the meeting, or, Court is, I embark from different points.

One of them is in a graceful community, where a small corner of one of the community's cross streets, exposes how raw the pain is from 9/11.

A father boarded that express bus on that perfectly clear day to go to work at the World Trade Center and anticipated coming home to his community, home, wife and children.

And he was obliterated by some fanatic.

As were two (2) of my long time friend's wives.

As was the Chaplain of the NY Fire Department at that time.

As were 300 + fire fighters.

As were 3,000 plus of my fellow Americans.

And my anger has not subsided.

Yes, it is personal for me.

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Yonathan Natanyahu address the Israeli Knesset. This is what he said:

To Ismail Haniya, and the leaders and operatives of Hamas:

We, the people of Israel, owe you a huge debt of gratitude. You

have succeeded where we have failed. Because never before, in the

history of the modern State of Israel, has the Jewish people been so

united, like one person with one heart. You stole three of our most

precious children, and slaughtered them in cold blood. But before

we could discover the horrible truth, we had 18 days of pain and

anxiety while we searched for them, during which our nation united

as never before, in prayer, in hopes, in mutual support.

And now, as you continue to launch deadly missiles indiscriminately,

intended to maim and murder as many civilians as possible, while you

take cowardly refuge behind your own civilians - you continue to

inspire us to hold strongly onto our newly discovered unity.

Whatever disputes we Jews may have with each other, we now know that

we have one common goal: we will defeat you.

But we are offering you now one last chance. Within 24 hours, all

rocket fire - and I mean all rocket fire - will cease. Completely.

Forever.

I give you formal notice that our tanks are massed at the Gaza

border, with artillery and air support at the ready. We have

already dropped leaflets over the northern parts of the Gaza strip,

warning civilians of our impending arrival, and that they should

evacuate southward, forthwith. If you fail to meet our ultimatum,

we are coming in, and, with God's help, this time we will not

leave. Every centimeter of land that we conquer will be annexed to

Israel, so that there will never be another attack launched at our

civilians from there.

Even so, we will continue to keep the door open to allow you to

surrender gracefully. The moment you announce that you are laying

down arms, we will halt our advance, and there we will draw our new

borders. If you continue to attack our citizens, we will continue

to roll southwards, driving you out of territory that you will never

again contaminate with your evil presence.

It pains me deeply that your civilians will be made homeless. But

we did not choose this war; you did. And if our choice is between

allowing our citizens to be targeted mercilessly by your genocidal

savagery, versus turning your civilians into refugees, I regret that

we must choose the latter. If only you loved your people as much as

you hate ours, this war would never have happened.

To the rest of the world: Israel has tired of your ceaseless

chidings that we should "show restraint". When you have your entire

population under constant missile fire from an implacable enemy

whose stated goal is the of murder every man, woman and child in

your land, then you may come and talk to us about "restraint".

Until then, we respectfully suggest that you keep your double

standards to yourselves. This time, Hamas has gone too far, and we

will do whatever we have to in order to protect our population.

Hamas, once again, I thank you for bringing our people together with

such clarity of mind and unity of purpose. The people of Israel do

not fear the long road ahead. Am Yisrael Chai.

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To which I add. Don't fuck around with the Jews.

Ba'al Chatzaf

Hey Bob... was this an official government public notice?

If it wasn't... it should be.

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

I got the letter forwarded to me from the Jewish Federation of Middlesex County New Jersey. It is real.

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I almost don't believe it is possible that a leader would say such things.

This isn't somebody's fantasy of what they hope BN might say some day, right?

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

I got the letter forwarded to me from the Jewish Federation of Middlesex County New Jersey. It is real.

Just an off topic comment on the significance of Israel's response to being attacked by Hamas.

Right now the world is in the middle of a Blood Moon Tetrad, which is an extremely rare series of 4 total lunar eclipses that fall on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles over a period of two years (2014-2015).

The last time this happened was the Six Day War.

The time before that, Israel became a nation.

The time before that, the Jews were expelled from Spain and Columbus discovered America.

...and history is in the making yet again.

Greg

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

I got the letter forwarded to me from the Jewish Federation of Middlesex County New Jersey. It is real.

Just an off topic comment on the significance of Israel's response to being attacked by Hamas.

Right now the world is in the middle of a Blood Moon Tetrad, which is an extremely rare series of 4 total lunar eclipses that fall on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles over a period of two years (2014-2015).

The last time this happened was the Six Day War.

The time before that, Israel became a nation.

The time before that, the Jews were expelled from Spain and Columbus discovered America.

...and history is in the making yet again.

Greg

Puhleeeeeeze. No astrology!!! It is bloody nonsense.

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

I got the letter forwarded to me from the Jewish Federation of Middlesex County New Jersey. It is real.

Just an off topic comment on the significance of Israel's response to being attacked by Hamas.

Right now the world is in the middle of a Blood Moon Tetrad, which is an extremely rare series of 4 total lunar eclipses that fall on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles over a period of two years (2014-2015).

The last time this happened was the Six Day War.

The time before that, Israel became a nation.

The time before that, the Jews were expelled from Spain and Columbus discovered America.

...and history is in the making yet again.

Greg

Puhleeeeeeze. No astrology!!! It is bloody nonsense.

Ba'al Chatzaf

Change your Depends, Bob. It's not astrology.

NASA precisely logs the timing of these events...

In the last 2,000 years, there have been 62 sequences of four consecutive total lunar eclipses. Of those, Only eight fell on the feast days of Passover and Succot, and the ninth is taking place right now.

Didn't you know that the Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar? All of the major holy days are based on the Moon.

"And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth”; and it was so."

So not only are the Sun and the Moon for giving light to the Earth, they also mark the days and the years, and delineate the seasons with solstices and equinoxes, and are also signs.

Right now Israel is making history yet again... just as it did by its unique birth as a nation, and when it reclaimed Jerusalem in the 6 day War.

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Might as well call it "Operation Final Solution to the Palestinian Question" and get it over with.

I'll believe Israel is only defending itself when they end their policy of lebensraum in Palestinian territories.

MSK can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there is any statutory requirement on OL that you comment on topics you seem to know little about. The certainty of your pronouncements seems, routinely, to be inversely proportional to the array of facts that might support them.

Your use of the term "Final Solution", in this context, is assinine--hoaxed letter, or not. Your use of the term "lebensraum", which you probably think is clever, is gratuitous bullshit.

I have learned that the adage that "youth is wasted on the young" has some resonance, especially for those both young and smart, which you appear to be.

No offense, but I am often reminded of this adage when I read your posts.

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Yup. Sure enough it looks like it's a hoax.

C'mon guys...

I got the letter forwarded to me from the Jewish Federation of Middlesex County New Jersey. It is real.

Just an off topic comment on the significance of Israel's response to being attacked by Hamas.

Right now the world is in the middle of a Blood Moon Tetrad, which is an extremely rare series of 4 total lunar eclipses that fall on Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles over a period of two years (2014-2015).

The last time this happened was the Six Day War.

The time before that, Israel became a nation.

The time before that, the Jews were expelled from Spain and Columbus discovered America.

...and history is in the making yet again.

Greg

Puhleeeeeeze. No astrology!!! It is bloody nonsense.

Ba'al Chatzaf

Change your Depends, Bob. It's not astrology.

NASA precisely logs the timing of these events...

In the last 2,000 years, there have been 62 sequences of four consecutive total lunar eclipses. Of those, Only eight fell on the feast days of Passover and Succot, and the ninth is taking place right now.

Didn't you know that the Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar? All of the major holy days are based on the Moon.

"And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth”; and it was so."

So not only are the Sun and the Moon for giving light to the Earth, they also mark the days and the years, and delineate the seasons with solstices and equinoxes, and are also signs.

Right now Israel is making history yet again... just as it did by its unique birth as a nation, and when it reclaimed Jerusalem in the 6 day War.

Greg

so what? How often do wars occur when there is no blood moon. What is the connection between the quality of light reflecting from the moon and warefare?

There is a common fallacy called post hoc ergo propter hoc. That means: after this therefore because of this.

It is bloody nonsense. Blood moon and war. Why not the conjunction with mars and war?

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Change your Depends, Bob. It's not astrology.

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So not only are the Sun and the Moon for giving light to the Earth, they also mark the days and the years, and delineate the seasons with solstices and equinoxes, and are also signs.

Right now Israel is making history yet again... just as it did by its unique birth as a nation, and when it reclaimed Jerusalem in the 6 day War.

This is garble, nonsense, end-times vapours. From Wikipedia's Blood Moon page:

The Blood Moon Prophecy is an idea popularized by Christian pastors John Hagee and Mark Biltz, which states that an ongoing tetrad (a series of four consecutive total lunar eclipses, with six full moons in between, and no intervening partial lunar eclipses) which began with the April 2014 lunar eclipse is a sign of the end times.

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Right now Israel is making history yet again... just as it did by its unique birth as a nation, and when it reclaimed Jerusalem in the 6 day War.

Greg

There is nothing especially "unique" about the way in which Israel became a nation. It did so largely by conquest, as it did in OT times. Understand that I am not singling out Israel here, since conquest has played a major role in the establishment of nation-states throughout history, so Israel was merely following suit. As for the role of the U.N. in the founding of modern Israel, I doubt if many libertarians are willing to concede that kind of authority to the U.N.

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Right now Israel is making history yet again... just as it did by its unique birth as a nation, and when it reclaimed Jerusalem in the 6 day War.

Greg

There is nothing especially "unique" about the way in which Israel became a nation. It did so largely by conquest, as it did in OT times.

It was unique for the Jews.

America became a nation by defeating England in war.

And the UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than any other nation on Earth. It's a cesspool of festering jewhate.

Greg

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This is garble, nonsense, end-times vapours.

Despite the poo pooing... the eight sequences of four total lunar eclipses falling on Passover and Succot which occurred in the last 2,000 years is a physical reality that even you can't deny.

However, you are perfectly free to believe that those events are completely devoid of any significance, and to believe that they just happened to randomly coincide with the crucifixion of Christ, the discovery of America, the birth of Israel, the 6 Day War, and right now... as all just being a matter of pure blind dumb chance.

Greg

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Might as well call it "Operation Final Solution to the Palestinian Question" and get it over with.

I'll believe Israel is only defending itself when they end their policy of lebensraum in Palestinian territories.

MSK can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there is any statutory requirement on OL that you comment on topics you seem to know little about. The certainty of your pronouncements seems, routinely, to be inversely proportional to the array of facts that might support them.

Your use of the term "Final Solution", in this context, is assinine--hoaxed letter, or not. Your use of the term "lebensraum", which you probably think is clever, is gratuitous bullshit.

I have learned that the adage that "youth is wasted on the young" has some resonance, especially for those both young and smart, which you appear to be.

No offense, but I am often reminded of this adage when I read your posts.

Yeah... no... see, I think you're pulling this judgment out of your ass, since I'm quite certain that I've never been uncertain about something I know a lot about. But even then you don't have the slightest clue about how much I know about the topic anyway.

I stand by what I said in that post. Israel's policies toward the Palestinians are nothing short of genocide. Anybody with eyes can see that, and, as I've come to learn, anybody who disagrees is usually ignorant of the topic, and when they're not, they've bought into the "Four legs good. Two legs bad." theory of history.

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