36 Signs Media Lying About Fukushima Radiation


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I chose to start this new thread because of the seriousness of this issue. Otherwise it would be lost deep in the other thread on the subject.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/36-signs-media-lying-fukushima-radiation-affecting-west-coast/

I observe that reactions vary. Some suggest that there is ample evidence of harm to animals in the Pacific ocean all the way from Fukushima to the West Coast . Others suggest that the amount of radioactive material from the destruction of the power plants in infinitesimal and no threat at all.

I suggest that you go to the link above and read through it all and make up your own mind.

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It is not necessary to go thru each of the 36 items, figuring out first is it relevant and second is it true. It is sufficient to dig up dirt on the author, Michael Snyder.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_T._Snyder

A good ad hominem attack on the author is sufficient to invalidate everything he says. The idea that a statement is true or false according to whether it is true or false and independently of the character of the author is a fallacy.

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David Suzuki - link

Biography

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David Suzuki, Co-Founder of the David Suzuki Foundation, is an award-winning scientist, environmentalist and broadcaster.

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Dr. Suzuki is a geneticist. [....]

In 1972, he was awarded the E.W.R. Steacie Memorial Fellowship for the outstanding research scientist in Canada under the age of 35 and held it for three years. He has won numerous academic awards and holds 25 honourary degrees in Canada, the U.S. and Australia. He was elected to the Royal Society of Canada and is a Companion of the Order of Canada. Dr. Suzuki has written 52 books, including 19 for children. His 1976 textbook An Introduction to Genetic Analysis (with A.J.F. Griffiths), remains the most widely used genetics text book in the U.S. and has been translated into Italian, Spanish, Greek, Indonesian, Arabic, French and German.

Dr. Suzuki has received consistently high acclaim for his thirty years of award-winning work in broadcasting. [...]

Dr. Suzuki is also recognized as a world leader in sustainable ecology. He is the recipient of UNESCO's Kalinga Prize for Science, the United Nations Environment Program Medal, UNEPs Global 500 and in 2009 won the Right Livelihood Award that is considered the Alternative Nobel Prize.

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Read an essay by David Suzuki: Biotechnology: A geneticist's personal perspective (PDF).

Ellen

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Toronto Sun report re Suzuki appearance in Australia:

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Down Under blunder: David Suzuki unmasked as a know-nothing huckster on Australian TV

BY EZRA LEVANT ,QMI AGENCY

FIRST POSTED: SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2013 07:00 PM EDT

Last week in Australia, David Suzuki did something he hasn't done before: He allowed himself to be interviewed in a situation he did not control.

It was a disaster.

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The first question put to Suzuki by a critic in the audience was about the 15-year hiatus in global warming. There just hasn't been any observed climate change since 1998, and it's a major problem for the climate change industry, whose computer models all warned that we'd see significant warming by now.

Thermometers - including hyper-accurate satellite readings - say it just hasn't happened. Here is a transcript of Suzuki's response:

Yeah, well, I don't know why you're saying that In fact, the warming continues . So where are you getting your information? I'm not a climatologist. I wait for the climatologists to tell us what they're thinking.

Normally, that's the worst Suzuki would face - one tough question that slips past his handlers. But he had no handlers that day. And ABC let the questioner come again, citing his sources that the world hasn't warmed: Sure, yeah. UAH, RSS, HadCRUT, GISS data shows a 17-year flat trend which suggests there may be something wrong with the CO2 warming theory?

Now, that's scientific jargon that a layman wouldn't understand. But Suzuki claims he's a scientist, and he has opined on global warming for years. But he had no clue what the questioner was even saying. Suzuki asked for an explanation: Sorry, yeah, what is the reference? I dont ...

He actually said that.

The questioner had a third go at it, speaking very slowly: Well, they're the main data sets that IPCC use: UAH, University of Alabama, Huntsville; GISS, Goddard Institute of Science; HadCRUT. I don't know what that stands for, HadCRUT; and RSS, Remote Sensing something. So those data sets suggest a 17-year flat trend, which suggests there may be a problem with the CO2.

Suzuki still had no clue. No, well, there may be a climate skeptic down in Huntsville, Alabama, who has taken the data and come to that conclusion You know, we can cherry pick all kinds of stuff. Cherry pick, in fact, the scientists that we want to listen to, but let's listen to the IPCC.

That's classic Suzuki - impugn the motives of anyone who disagrees with him. He heard Alabama and thought "hick" and called them a skeptic. He said we ought to listen to the IPCC - the one acronym Suzuki did know. That stands for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the UN's climate bureaucracy.

But all of those places the questioner mentioned - including Alabama - were IPCC research stations. They're the places that crunch the temperature data for the UN.

Suzuki had no clue.

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Ellen

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Ellen,

So first someone here tries to invoke an ad hominem approach to invalidate the claims of a serious radiation threat.

Then you cite the author's credentials which counters the ad hominem attack on him.

Are we to to conclude that there is indeed a profound threat from the Fukushima plant, given the reported situation there with vulnerable radioactive fuel rods in a precarious cooling pool which might leak in another earthquake exposing the rods to the air. Likewise the attempt to remove those rods from the pool on the fourth floor of the plant to a safer location is fraught with risk of the rods touching each other which would cause a meltdown with release of enormous amounts of radioactive material from the 89 tons of rods in the pool now.

This is truly a sword of Damocles hanging over the heads of not just those on the Pacific Coast but ultimately the entire Northern Hemisphere.

If this calamity were to materialize the consequences will affect us for a very long time and no one would be spared.

Inevitable!

The world will begin again with the insects becoming dominant.

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Ellen,

So first someone here tries to invoke an ad hominem approach to invalidate the claims of a serious radiation threat.

Then you cite the author's credentials which counters the ad hominem attack on him.

William,

Better read more carefully if you don't want to scare yourself sick

The ad hominem, by jts, was directed against Michael Snyder.

Michael Snyder is not the scientist cited as an authority. David Suzuki is.

David Suzuki's professional training was in genetics - in which field he might be good. I don't know. I haven't looked into his work in genetics.

However, he's been making a public presence as an environmentalist. Judging from the Toronto Sun article, if that accurately reports what happened at a Suzuki appearance in Australia, Suzuki is still claiming that there's global warming and doesn't even recognize the acronyms for the main data sets. I.e., he doesn't know what he's talking about in that area.

Very possibly, then, he doesn't know what he's talking about re the radiation threat either.

So far I haven't found someone who I think does know the science of radioactivity who's talking alarm. If I find such a person, I'll post the info.

Ellen

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Can not anyone get some kind of drone , with video capabilities into the structure? To at least investigate the source of the mysterious plumes?

The owners, or, the Japanese government, is hiring unemployed Japanese citizens to clean up the cite.

Class act don't you think?

What happened to the alleged "Pacific drift" with radiation emitted at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Anyone know?

What happened the the alleged "Pacific drift" from Chernobyl?

How many deaths were there from Chernobyl?

And my favorite question did more people die from Three Mile Island, or, in the back seat of Ted Kennedy's car?

A...

"Religious" football worship is over for today. Two (2) great entertaining game.

These NFL playoff games are starting to look more and more like the original Rollerball with James Caan.

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Can not anyone get some kind of drone , with video capabilities into the structure? To at least investigate the source of the mysterious plumes?

The owners, or, the Japanese government, is hiring unemployed Japanese citizens to clean up the cite.

Class act don't you think?

What happened to the alleged "Pacific drift" with radiation emitted at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Anyone know?

What happened the the alleged "Pacific drift" from Chernobyl?

How many deaths were there from Chernobyl?

And my favorite question did more people die from Three Mile Island, or, in the back seat of Ted Kennedy's car?

A...

"Religious" football worship is over for today. Two (2) great entertaining game.

These NFL playoff games are starting to look more and more like the original Rollerball with James Caan.

A...

The "drift" never go far. Chernobyl was a different story. A lot of the radioactive particulates settled on Finnland, Norway and Sweden which got those folks properly T-ed off.

It turns out Chernobyl produced more particulate fallout than did either Nagasaki or Hiroshima.

Ba'al Chatzaf

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Hmmm, so you mean we are not dead?

My neighbors are not radioactive glowing Zombies?

The article referred to the picture of reactor3 taken back in 2011. It was quite misleading. If the “author” (I dare not to say “writer”) didn’t recognize what the picture was, the person doesn’t know anything about Fukushima situation. The steam has been visible since July. It wasn’t timely to warn to run, at least not urgent. They should have reported it in July.

Then, another website called occupy something (Please don’t take me wrong, I’m not blaming the occupy movement itself.) picked up the story of Turner something and started saying “reactor3 is having meltdown” with the picture of black smoke. and the picture was of 2011 again.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Here is some fear mongering by environmentalists. Ayn Rand was opposed to environmentalism. Environmentalism is the idea that mankind must be sacrificed to the environment. This Fukushima nonsense will persuade people to give up nuclear energy merely because of a little harmless radiation. There is not the slightest evidence that anyone is getting cancer or babies are getting deformities from Fukushima radiation. The radiated food is perfectly safe to eat. This video shows how the environmentalists appeal to emotion instead of reason.

Notice. All they are saying is there is radiation and it's spreading. Big hairy deal! Why the h... should we give a rat's ass? They offer no evidence that it does any harm.

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OMG Alfred E. Neuman.

Now I really feel old.

That better be in reference to my post #4 and not the Devil Baby lose on the streets of NY City with the marxist DeBlasio in charge of out first line of defense - da police!

Shades of Mia Farrow ...

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Dat's de sound a da police...

Possibly my most favorite rap oops seems it is hip hop** song...good dose of Reverand Wtight's black liberation theology, this is O'biwan with rhythm.

I especially love the semantic sleight of hand that gets from overseer to officer.

The background film is also excelletnt, including the Tiannamen Suare shot along with the "Be this man" photo recently posted here which are amongst my favorite freedom photos.

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Post Script: ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRS-One KRS-One stands for Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone

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