The Ukraine - This Ain't No Board Game Of RISK...!


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Just keeps getting worse...

NOVOHANNIVKA, Ukraine (AP) — Pro-Russia separatists shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane Saturday, killing all 49 crew and troops aboard in a bloody escalation of the conflict in the country's restive east.

It was a bitter setback for the Ukrainian forces, which have struggled to suppress an armed insurgency by foes of the new government. And it came only a week after Ukraine's new president, billionaire candy magnate Petro Poroshenko, spoke about a peace plan in his inaugural address.

Yet the deadliest single incident in the four-month-old conflict suggested the two sides were still far apart in their demands and talk of de-escalating the conflict remained premature.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140614/eu--ukraine-58b2dea484.html

and...

DONETSK, Ukraine — The State Department said Friday that Russia had sent tanks and other heavy weapons to separatists in Ukraine, supporting accusations Thursday by the Ukrainian government.

A convoy of three T-64 tanks, several BM-21 multiple rocket launchers and other military vehicles crossed the border near the Ukrainian town of Snizhne, State Department officials said. The Ukrainian Army reported Friday that it had destroyed two of the tanks and several other vehicles in the convoy.

“This is unacceptable,” said Marie Harf, the deputy State Department spokeswoman. “A failure by Russia to de-escalate this situation will lead to additional costs.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/world/europe/ukraine-claims-full-control-of-port-city-of-mariupol.html

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Meanwhile, the Ukraine is beginning to degrade and the chances of a potential conflict with Russia are increasing.

Needless to say the incompetent in the White House has no clue what to do.

SNIZHNE, Ukraine -- An airstrike in eastern Ukraine sent an apartment building crumpling to the ground Tuesday, killing at least 11 people and adding to the steadily mounting civilian death toll from the fighting between government forces and pro-Russian insurgents.

Rebels pinned the attack on the Ukrainian air force. The government swiftly denied blame but was not immediately able to offer an alternative explanation.

The bombing in the rebel-held town of Snizhne demonstrated how airstrikes and heavy rocket fire are becoming increasingly common as the conflict drags into its fourth month. The attack comes one day after a Ukrainian military transport plane was shot down in disputed circumstances.

Seems Putin is jabbing at the situation with air support...

Dmitry Tymchuk, a military analyst who co-ordinates closely with Ukraine's Defence Ministry, said that since rebels are unlikely to have any planes capable of conducting the bombing, there could only be one explanation.

"Only Russian aviation could have performed the airstrike on Snizhne," he wrote on his Facebook account.

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Apparently, this is the "President's" response to Putin's alleged part in these bombings:

WASHINGTON — President Obama escalated sanctions against Russia on Wednesday by targeting a series of large banks and energy and defense firms in what officials described as the most punishing measures to date for Moscow’s intervention in Ukraine.

While the latest moves do not cut off entire sectors of the Russian economy, as threatened in the past, the administration’s actions go significantly further than the financial and travel limits imposed so far on several dozen individuals and their businesses. The new measures will severely restrict access to American debt markets for the targeted companies.

The moves were coordinated with European leaders, who were meeting in Brussels on Wednesday to consider their own package of penalties against Russia. The Europeans declined to go as far as the United States, instead focusing on a plan to block loans for new projects in Russia by European investment and development banks.

The disparate approaches reflect the deeper divisions between Washington and Brussels over how tough to be with Russia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/obama-widens-sanctions-against-russia.html?emc=edit_na_20140716&nlid=53564225&_r=0

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Damn that after this therefore because of it fallacy is soooooo tempting...

Incompetent President draws another rainbow line in shifting sand and tells Putin he has to change by xyz date;

Putin laughs hysterically, announces opening intelligence post in Cuba [ah makes you just yearn for those ole Nikita days where we were on the edge of nuclear war];

Putin, allegedly, used air strikes on targets inside the Ukraine...11+killed;

Incompetent President announces increased, "targeted" sanctions against Russia for kicking sand on the incompetent President's rainbow line; and

One day later, a Malaysian airliner, upon information and belief, was directed into a lane for a surface to air missile took out 295 folks.

So tempting.

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This jumped out at me from yesterdays Obama speech: "So far, Russia has failed to take any of the steps that I mentioned."

Mentioned?? Like, a suggestion? The weakest lamest "leader" in history of the world. He can't be serious. I don't think Obama cares about any of this. Putin is like a pit bull that jumped the fence during a parade of toy poodles.

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I don't think Obama cares about any of this. Putin is like a pit bull that jumped the fence during a parade of toy poodles.

Have you read Rules for Radicals?

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Adam: "Incompetent President draws another rainbow line in shifting sand and tells Putin he has to change by xyz date"

lol. Obama's outgunned. Putin loves bitch slapping the Nobel Prize winner.

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Adam: "Incompetent President draws another rainbow line in shifting sand and tells Putin he has to change by xyz date"

lol. Obama's outgunned. Putin loves bitch slapping the Nobel Prize winner.

The hilarious part was his new "spokesmouth," who replaced Jay "we have Soviet Posters on our kitchen walls" Carney, actually said the other day that the administration's policy's have led to a more "tranquil" world.

This is, frankly, Orwellian "newsspeak."

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Ukraine--eastern Ukraine--is a war zone. The EU, the U.S. and Ukraine vs Russia. Economic and military. But the EU dunderheads think economic warfare isn't warfare because it's not shooting. So let the civilian airliners fly over. No one's going to shoot them down. It now appears the separatists appear to be the guilty party and they most certainly got their Buk missile from Russia. This is putting more pressure on Russia--stupid Russia.

American conservatives of the interventionist sort think there is nothing wrong with getting involved along with the EU in putting pressure on Russia which has only one effective military option left since a ground invasion by an incompetent Russian army would be a fiasco. The nuclear option.

What is the U.S. interest in pushing Russia into a tighter and tighter corner? The EU interest? This is how little gets big. Is a war that started in Ukraine going to be remembered like another one that started in the Balkins?

--Brant

the gross understatement of risk is appalling--it's almost as if there were none

as in 1914 the world is ruled by blind incompetents

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as in 1914 the world is ruled by blind incompetents

Yep, Peter Principle***[oops, is that too phallic for today's "free speech"],

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The Peter Principle is the principle that "in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to their level of incompetence".

It was formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull in their 1969 book The Peter Principle, a humorous treatise which also introduced the "salutary science of hierarchiology", "inadvertently founded" by Peter. It holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Sooner or later they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain, being unable to earn further promotions. This principle can be modelled and has theoretical validity for simulations.[1] Peter's Corollary states that "in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out their duties" and adds that "work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence". Managing upward is the concept of a subordinate finding ways to subtly "manage" superiors in order to limit the damage that they end up doing.

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The Peter Principle is a special case of a ubiquitous observation: anything that works will be used in progressively more challenging applications until it fails. This is "The Generalized Peter Principle". It was observed by Dr. William R. Corcoran in his work on corrective action programs at nuclear power plants. He observed it applied to hardware, e.g., vacuum cleaners as aspirators, and administrative devices such as the "Safety Evaluations" used for managing change. There is much temptation to use what has worked before, even when it may exceed its effective scope. Dr. Peter observed this about humans.

In an organizational structure, the Peter Principle's practical application allows assessment of the potential of an employee for a promotion based on performance in the current job; i.e., members of a hierarchical organization eventually are promoted to their highest level of competence, after which further promotion raises them to incompetence. That level is the employee's "level of incompetence" where the employee has no chance of further promotion, thus reaching their career's ceiling in an organization.

The employee's incompetence is not necessarily exposed as a result of the higher-ranking position being more difficult — simply, that job is different from the job in which the employee previously excelled, and thus requires different work skills, which the employee may not possess. For example, a factory worker's excellence in their job can earn them promotion to manager, at which point the skills that earned them their promotion no longer apply to their job.

I have personally observed this.

However, short term performance consulting contracts diminish this stupidity.

All forms of government contracts maximize this stupidity.

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trying to be as truthful and pithy as Brant...

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trying to be as truthful and pithy as Brant...

Really?

Give it up.

Say "Uncle!"

U want odds?

"Good night, nurse."

"Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

--Brant

on the other hand--I can go long!--very, very, very long!

I never try to be truthful; I just be me--what else can I be but what I am?

NEXT!

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Please...

We have a half blind Jewish black dude on our side...

Great voice by the way...

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The incompetent President of the US is, basically, not equipped for the world stage. What else would you expect from an affirmative action President.

This "exchange" between the "President" of the United States and Putin is illustrative of the disputes between two (2) crime families, which is, essentially, what they are.

However, it is rare that the Executive in America is so ill-equipped to even sit at the global power table.

The street thug that is President of the US crime family, made it personal with his "targeted" sanctions. Hmm, so we are going to have the "authorities" seize and close down your [Putin's empire/international business folks/businesses/etc.].

In other words, our thug, raided Putin's buddies "speakeasys." We've all seen the Elliot Ness/Al Capone movies.

So, their thug, Putin, plays his trump:

"Earlier this week, Putin promised to retaliate against the United States for new sanctions targeting his friends and business associates, as well as large Russian defense, energy, and financial firms. On Thursday, Putin called President Obama to alert him a civilian jetliner had crashed over Eastern Ukraine, a tragedy the U.S. says was caused by a missile shot from a Russian-made SA-11 mobile surface to air missile system located in a separatist-held area."

Basically, translated, you fucked with my territory, now I fuck with yours.

A KGB thug vs. a Chicago thug...this is the state of international politics today...lot's of folks are going to die in this gang war.

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Obama isn't mentally equipped to stand toe to toe with Putin...it would require something he doesn't have...balls.

Many women leaders did not have testicles...Margaret Thatcher being one of the recent ones...therefore, it is not a requirement.

He has no understanding of reality, much more dangerous than testicular issues.

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Metaphorical balls. Maggie had balls in spades!

Metaphorical balls. Maggie had balls in spades!

I understood what you meant...just preachin to the OL readers that are passin through our down home cracker barrel discussions.

Place hands in suspenders, look the person in the eyes and ask them if any of this here big gubernet crap makes any sense where they live...

Funny aspect of the answer, is that everyone feels the same way and they perceive that they are alone in that assessment.

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The Legacy of Margaret Thatcher by Sean Gabb

Plus, she loved Britain's socialized medicine.

And at the end of her reign, Britain's taxes were higher than when she came to power.

She believed in making sacrifices to stop "climate change." She supported and helped pass new gun restriction laws.

Still, she didn't just stand on the sidelines criticizing like some know-it-all utopian. We can all admire her for being so practical and getting things done, can't we?

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She put the unions in their place and turned the British economy around--that's about all on the plus side I can recall. On, there was a war in the Falklands that kept her and her party in power. I'd call the whole thing a net plus, especially for all the harm unions did there over many decades.

My enthusiasm for Ronald Reagan is similarly muted.

--Brant

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Now here we have "Lurch"-- aka Sen. Kerry.

Obama isn't mentally equipped to stand toe to toe with Putin...it would require something he doesn't have...balls.

Many women leaders did not have testicles...Margaret Thatcher being one of the recent ones...therefore, it is not a requirement.

He has no understanding of reality, much more dangerous than testicular issues.

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No worries. Obama can always send in to negotiate, "Lurch"...I mean Sen Kerry, his faithful butler.

Strong resemblance in more ways than one.

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Here's Ron Paul's take on the Ukraine situation:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-paul-defends-russia-malaysian-151731466.html

However, at the end of his column, Paul admitted he could be wrong about the whole matter.

"Of course it is entirely possible that the Obama administration and the US media has it right this time, and Russia or the separatists in eastern Ukraine either purposely or inadvertently shot down this aircraft," he wrote. "The real point is, it's very difficult to get accurate information so everybody engages in propaganda."

Paul's son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) is widely seen as a possible presidential candidate in 2016. Business Insider reached out to Paul's office to ask if he agreed with his father's take on the plane crash. As of this writing, we have not received a response.

He is on record for restructuring our military by bringing it back to the US proper. Therefore, this sounds like a "thinking out loud" column.

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I can respect Paul's solitary stance on this. I feel that anyone making political capital out of this tragedy, this early, is distasteful and wrong. Who knows how far back one should go in finding fault and causation? Putin tried shifting blame himself, at first. One thing seems certain, whoever did it -and the Pro-Russian separatists are by far the most likely- nobody intended shooting down a civilian airliner. In that sense, it was an accident.

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