PDS Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Putting aside issues of LP's personality, motivations, etc., isn't it fair to say that his recent Podcast is "fairly big news"? If we accept his pronouncement at face value, and not as some kind of Tomkin Village, what the hell have Objectivists been fighting about so hard for the last 20/30/40 years?Surely 40 years of potential momentum hasn't been pissed away over personality conflicts, have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Putting aside issues of LP's personality, motivations, etc., isn't it fair to say that his recent Podcast is "fairly big news"? If we accept his pronouncement at face value, and not as some kind of Tomkin Village, what the hell have Objectivists been fighting about so hard for the last 20/30/40 years?Surely 40 years of potential momentum hasn't been pissed away over personality conflicts, have they?Most Objectivists come to the movement young, with a lot of creative energy and a passionate desire for Truth. Think of a Catholic priest, who comes to the priesthood like most men, with a passionate desire for Woman. When they are told they cannot have Truth, that they shall accept the doctrine as is, those who do not leave the priesthood drive their creative energy into the nearest convenient outlet.Shayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Putting aside issues of LP's personality, motivations, etc., isn't it fair to say that his recent Podcast is "fairly big news"? If we accept his pronouncement at face value, and not as some kind of Tomkin Village, what the hell have Objectivists been fighting about so hard for the last 20/30/40 years?Surely 40 years of potential momentum hasn't been pissed away over personality conflicts, have they?Most Objectivists come to the movement young, with a lot of creative energy and a passionate desire for Truth. Think of a Catholic priest, who comes to the priesthood like most men, with a passionate desire for Woman. When they are told they cannot have Truth, that they shall accept the doctrine as is, those who do not leave the priesthood drive their creative energy into the nearest convenient outlet.ShayneShayne:Lol. That is not a "good" or valid comparison or analogy, in my opinion. Especially, since you have specifically stated previously that you do not know much about Catholicism. It also does not address the celibacy of Nuns. Is it not of interest that we have not heard or seen widespread revelations about abuses in nunneries?Not to mention the subliminal wording! Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfonso Jones Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) As we grow older, we become more firmly and openly the person we really are. Leonard Peikoff is not senile. He is merely Leonard Peikoff.BarbaraBarbara - Well and succinctly put. And chilling. I wonder how many other self-styled Objectivists refrain from Peikoff-like behavior only because nobody is willing to yield any "authority" to them.Bill P Edited October 5, 2010 by Bill P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Renzulli Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Overall an excellent article. However, I wanted correct on minor error on Tracinski's part. In the podcast he cites, Peikoff said Property rights are contextual.Peikoff went on to point out not only the desert island scenario but also that if someone is in possession of a weapon stored in their house (a nuclear bomb I believe) that posed an immediate threat to the rights of the people surrounding said edifice then it was proper for government to seize it and the facility it was stored in.Germany, for example, recently and rightly shut down a mosque in Hamburg that was the place where the 9/11 terrorists help plot their strategy to pull off the WTC and Pentagon attacks and was discovered to be a meeting place for other jihadists too.In the case of the Ground Zero Mosque it is clear that it is being done in the context of the Islamists behind this project to thumb their noses at the U.S. if not western civilization and with Wahabbism being the main export of Saudi Arabia which also happens to be the predominate Islamic sect that occupies most Mosques throughout the world it is clear the GZ Mosque (and possibly others) should not be considered a legitimate religious edifice.I think the one thing that is refreshing about the whole GZM controversy is that it doesn't look like it will be built and it has exposed the stealth jihad people like Rauf and the Muslim American Society and other Islamist groups represent if not Islam itself. Edited November 6, 2010 by Mike Renzulli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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